My father was shot in the head.
How long would it be there?
My father was shot in the head. How long would it be there?
My father...
shot in the head.
How long?
How far would that be?
How far... how far would that be?
Come on, Dawes. I want fifty of your best.
Come on, Dawes. I want fifty of your best.
I don't flog, you know that.
I don't know that.
You will begin immediately, Dawes.
Or you'll be next.
You can start with me.
No.
I'd rather you do it.
They'll flog me anyway.
And it'll be a good start.
You'll be next.
You'll be next.
You'll be next.
They'll flog me anyway.
And it'll be worse.
Please.
One.
Separate the cats, damn you!
Two.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Forty-six.
Forty-seven.
Stop a moment.
Stop a moment.
You may be shaming.
And time and giving water.
I thought so.
You can continue.
No!
No more!
Fetch a man with another cat.
I'll give you that man's fifty and another fifty on top.
Stop!
I said stop!
I said stop!
I said stop!
I said stop!
I said stop!
I said stop!
I said stop!
I said stop!
Stop!
Oh, my God.
This man is innocent.
You're the only one who thinks so.
We looked for you at the inquiry this morning.
Time up.
Doctor.
I...
I...
I think Kirkland is dead.
I think Kirkland is dead.
Yes, Mr. North, I believe you're right.
Strange.
Perhaps he had an internal disease.
A disease of the heart, maybe.
I'll do a post-mortem. We'll see.
Cabbage.
One.
Two.
Two.
I have nothing to say to you, Reverend.
Mr. Doars, I have written a letter to the governor in Sydney giving him a full report.
And I will not rest until this dreadful incident gets a proper hearing.
I'm sure Kirkland will be pleased to hear that, Reverend.
And I will not rest until this dreadful incident gets a proper hearing.
All my own inventions.
Completely just a month ago.
With this new relay system, we can get a message through to any of the seven stations along the way in a matter of seconds.
Or all the way to Hobart Town in a matter of minutes.
What a pity it wasn't completed sooner.
I might have heard from you more than once in the past six months.
You know, I'm not much with a pen.
But now that you're here with me.
I've been planning this boat for a year, Doars.
Look, my wife will even have a boat waiting.
How did you manage that?
I worked out the details and Reverend Meakin was kind enough to deliver them to her.
What about the semaphore?
Fray's going to be sorry he built it.
What do you say?
It'll just be Leslie, Charlie, Gabbit, Jimmy and us.
I don't like the company.
Don't worry about them, they're just decoys.
Why don't you and me double back the other way?
Tomorrow!
You're wasting your time if you're counting on her.
Don't forget I was in the courtroom in Hobart.
If she didn't help you then she won't now.
What do you say?
It's all set for tomorrow.
You're the only one here besides me with brains.
I need someone like you.
Maybe just me and another decoy for later.
I've my own plans, you'll have to manage without me.
Hold on to me dear, the trip down could be rough.
Take Dawes off train duty.
I don't want him anywhere near my wife ever again.
It's so nice to be home after a weekend with Auntie.
Who really doesn't understand fussy dogs.
Oh she tries but not once does she give us My Dog.
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There's a message coming through Harry.
One, five, seven.
Prisoner absconded.
By George Harry there's been a bulk.
One, six, one.
With arms. Come here Harry here's a guy.
No use making a fuss Freddie.
Just attend to your signals.
Captain Freya is waiting for an answer.
Send this message. Signal sent to Eagle Hawk.
I know the code so don't try any tricks Freddie.
Here it is, 853.
What's keeping you dandy?
Just sprinkling salt on Freya's tail.
We've found an axe. They're striking Gabbits Island.
Good. Now send this signal. Six, three, one.
Watch Point Pure? Why Point Pure?
Because that's where we're not going.
You're a foxy one dandy Jack.
Just send the message.
We've got them eh Quincy?
Not exactly Captain.
You see the semaphore station on Signal Hill wasn't responding.
We sent Peterson up to investigate.
Jones and Tuttle have been out of commission so to speak for hours.
It was the Bolters sent the last messages.
Bloody John Ricks.
So much for your flies and hulley theories.
You can tell the prisoners that from now on this place is going to be run like a penal colony.
Not a damn boarding school.
And for weeks now I have watched this new discipline clamp down like an ugly vice.
I've seen a man flogged for accidentally dropping his jacket over a so-called boundary line.
Men sent to the pepper mill and to the stretcher rack for reasons they can't even fathom.
The jails even the solitary cells are overflowing with the wretched devils.
You haven't noticed anyone trying to leave in the last two months have you Mr. North?
The prisoners are obviously beginning to like it here.
The men slink into their huts at night like whipped hounds to a kennel.
It has become a crime here to do anything but breathe.
I was sent down here to keep order.
And by God's will I will do it.
But at what cost?
And the worst thing I've seen is your method of making constables of some of the prisoners and setting them to spy on their fellows.
Yes. I put that system into use at Moriah Island.
And I found it was a great success.
It is evil. A system where treachery is rewarded is degrading and immoral.
Hardly immoral Mr. North.
The previous chaplain, the Reverend Meakin, was strongly in favor of severe punishment.
He said it helped expedite the souls of the convicts into heaven.
I know that the Lord does not make mistakes Mr. Frere.
But his servant, the church, does.
And I'm afraid Mr. Meakin is one of those mistakes.
He is a complete ass.
Ah, there you are my dear.
Did you have a pleasant day?
I found a lovely shade tree near a stream to read in the afternoon.
Oh, I forgot you two haven't met.
Reverend North.
This is my wife.
I hope I didn't disturb anything.
Just a philosophic debate on convict discipline.
No hard feelings about our little discussion.
Would you care to stay for dinner?
Please do Mr. North. We could so use some fresh company.
Thank you.
Excuse me for interrupting.
Captain, they want you down at your office.
They've got one of the baltas there.
Well, madam.
I believe I have just solved the mystery of the French novels in the captain's library.
I have a copy of Balzac's Nana, if you would permit me to drop it.
My for you.
Thank you. I would like that Mr. North.
Where are your maids, scabbit?
The captain asked you a question.
Dead?
You've been gone over two months.
How did you survive?
Some sailors found him on the point, sir, and brought him across.
Funny thing, captain. They said he didn't seem hungry.
Give him ten lashes for himself, and ten for each man that escaped with him.
We're all one in the same now, anyway.
And then send him to the coal mines.
Your bath will be ready, Jack, as soon as you finish the wood.
I'll never be finished with this bloody wood.
I'm so bored with this.
Sarah.
Sarah.
Let's go to England.
So you could join your old friends in their con games.
You'd wind up right back in Port Arthur without me looking after you, Jack.
We stay here, where I can turn you in as an escaped convict if you are not kind and loving to me.
You devil.
You're a strange woman.
To love such a villain?
I bet a man would be wearisome to me.
I've been thinking, Jack.
Why don't we buy the two adjoining properties?
There's a fortune to be made on wool in this country.
What's the scar?
No. I got that from Dawes when he jumped me in the prison yard.
What did he do that for?
A little jest I made about a lady who was looking for a son.
Next thing I knew I was fighting for my life.
I wonder why.
I remember Rufus Dawes.
Didn't seem like a queer curve.
No. Matter of fact he's not.
Never learned to do anything without a reason.
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Set it out team number one.
Keep it low boy, nice and straight, nice and straight.
Keep your line moving.
Come on, come on.
Come on now, get that line going.
Watch out for that quick, come on.
Roots that haven't blossomed out, hands that have been painted black.
Summer isle for freezing light and dark river spheres for sea.
Sophocles expresses the same idea in Philoctetes.
But for some reason I can't quite quote it today.
That is indeed a beautiful poem Mrs. Frere.
I never tire of Tennyson.
Here, take it Mr. North. It is a gift.
Thank you. I shall treasure it.
Come on.
Come on.
What are you doing Dose?
Just passing the time Moony.
Tell me if you hear the guard.
Huh?
What are you doing Dose?
Huh?
You drink this love. You'll feel better.
Do you look a bit down on the mouth old girl?
Maybe you should get doctor Tennant to take a look at you.
I'll be alright in a couple of days.
Will you go into town for me?
It's the payment to foster for the landy soldiers.
Cash it and give it to him before noon.
He'll have the papers ready.
Pick up something for yourself while you're in town.
One of those new shirts they've brought in from London.
Good idea. Thank you.
Make my apologies to Elsie Kennedy on the way back.
I promised to help her with her pickling this afternoon.
Well don't expect me back too early.
It'll take me ages to get away from her blabbermouth husband.
You might as well bring them some of the muston while you're at it.
I'll save you the trip Friday.
Right. Well, better take the cart then eh?
You try and get some sleep love.
Whistling
Set it out team number one.
Nice and straight, nice and straight.
Keep your eyes moving.
Come on, come on.
Come on now, get that line going.
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Great journey.
Hello again. Well I hope you enjoyed part two of The Term of His Natural Life.
Right now it's time for the second question in our fabulous Norfolk Island competition.
The question is, what was the name of the goat Rufus Dawes sacrificed in order to rescue the castaways?
That question again, what was the name of the goat that Rufus Dawes sacrificed in order to rescue the castaways?
Now that's the second question.
All you've got to do now is watch the conclusion at 7.30 on Friday and answer one more simple question.
Now by then you should have three answers.
Once you do, write all three answers on the back of an envelope
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Now the first 15 correct entries drawn from the barrel on Monday the 6th of June, that's Queensland Day, will be the lucky winners.
Good luck and I'll see you Friday during the conclusion of For the Term of His Natural Life.
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For the Term of His Natural Life reaches its dramatic conclusion Friday at 7.30.
Follow the continuing saga of Rufus Dawes from the convict coal mines to the gold fields and beyond.
See the final bloody confrontation with his tormentor Captain Freer.
Journey to England for the unmasking of an imposter that marks the end of a mother's 20-year search for her son.
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You want her to coach you, huh?
The true story of Mary Dobkins.
Who's Aunt Mary? The coach.
She takes a gang of scallywags to the top of the Little League.
Uh-oh.
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But you ever do that again, you little creep, I'll kill you.
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And welcome to Police 5.
Breaking and entering.
Those words almost sound mild, but they certainly don't accurately describe the real effect of somebody breaking into your home while you aren't there.
In Queensland right now, breaking and entering is rife.
In every city in this state, people are experiencing outrages on their personal property to the tune of 72 a day.
And by the way, 60% of all breaking and entering is done by juveniles.
But getting back to what breaking and entering really means, listen to the reaction of a typical victim after she got home and found her home had been broken and entered.
Well, quite a sickening feeling because I walked in and see everything, a great mess and things all over the place.
And it's just the feeling that somebody has been in your house looking through all your personal belongings and wondering what's there, wondering if they're still in the house.
And you sort of, it just leaves this dead feeling in your house. I guess it's not very pleasant at all.
Does this reaction follow through in subsequent nights for you? I mean, you still feel pretty easy about it all.
Oh yeah, every car that pulls up at the front or drives by or slowly, you're on edge the whole time.
Every time you go out, you're just wondering all night, you're thinking, well, what's going to be there when I come home?
It's not nice at all. I hope it eventually goes, but I don't think it'll take a long time.
But of course, it's not all youngsters doing the breaking and entering. An awful lot of adults are doing it.
They steal videos, a favourite target and anything else that's easily sellable.
Now most times they have a ready-made market, which is a warning if somebody offers you a cheap video recorder in a pub.
Another warning concerns anyone who knocks on your door and asks if so-and-so lives there.
Detective Senior Sergeant John Meskell knows all about such techniques.
The situation you're seeing now is a typical daylight breaking in it, where you have a female part of a gang goes up and knocks on the house door
to see if anybody's home.
Anybody home?
Nobody's at home. She goes back to a vehicle where she has two accomplices and she tells them they then go and they break into the house and steal the property.
And here we have a situation where we've got two sensible neighbours who are having a chat at the front door.
They see something untoward happening and one of the neighbours is sensible enough to jot down the number of the car.
And through that number we can then trace the owner of that car and who the offenders are.
And what we would like, Jim, as people, to be sticky beaks on what's happening around them.
If a person who's leaving their home, going away somewhere, they should tell the next door neighbours where they're going, how long they've been away for,
and in particular ask them if they see anything untoward to phone the police and not to be frightened of making a fool of themselves
because in many instances we've been able to apprehend offenders.
There were 637 houses broken and entered in Brisbane during the month of March and in the Cairns, Innisfail, Mariba area, 151 broken enters.
So as Detective Senior Sergeant John Meskell says, let's help to cut it down, become a burglar-catching sticky beak.
Your house could be next. Our thanks to the Brisbane Youth Theatre for our young actors and see you next time.
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News night with Paul Griffin.
Good evening and welcome to News Night.
The Royal Commission into Allegations Against New South Wales Premier Neville Rand opened in Sydney today,
and already there have been some startling disclosures and that story heads our programme tonight.
We'll also be examining criticism of the findings of the Stuart Drug Commission,
and later in the programme I'll be talking in our studio with Welfare Minister Terry White about criticisms of Queensland's prisons.
But first, the Rand Royal Commission.
The Royal Commission into Allegations Against Premier Neville Rand began taking evidence today on charges telecast last month by the ABC Four Corners programme.
The Commission is investigating whether former Chiefs of Pantry Magistrate Murray Farquhar influenced a court hearing involving ex-League boss Kevin Humphreys,
and if so, whether Premier Rand asked him to do it.
Today, two senior magistrates gave evidence about an alleged phone call from the Premier to Mr Farquhar.
A third said a written report was ignored by his superiors.
For the Premier, Neville Rand, former Chief Magistrate Murray Farquhar, and the once rugby league boss Kevin Humphreys,
it was the start of a day they'd been preparing for since that Four Corners programme on April 30th.
The Royal Commissioner, Sir Lawrence Street, has suspended his usual duties as Chief Justice of New South Wales to head the inquiry.
Today he called the first evidence.
It came in the form of a letter written by Kevin Jones, the magistrate who heard and eventually dismissed the charges against Kevin Humphreys.
In it, Mr Jones says the former Chief Magistrate Murray Farquhar called him aside before the start of the hearing on the 11th of August 1977.
According to Mr Jones, this is what Mr Farquhar said.
The Premier contacted me and he once Humphreys discharged.
Mr Jones said he was stunned and decided to go ahead with the hearing and deal with it on its merits.
He'll give direct evidence to the Commission sometime next week.
The first witness to give evidence today was Kevin Waller, one of the state's most senior magistrates.
He said Mr Farquhar's assistant came into the room on that day in 1977 and said in front of several magistrates,
Mr Farquhar, the Premier is on the phone.
About 30 minutes later, he saw Mr Farquhar call Magistrate Jones into his office for a private talk.
After that meeting, Mr Waller said Mr Jones told him, you'll never guess what has happened.
Rand has told Farquhar the government has no interest in seeing Humphreys go to trial.
Mr Waller replied, stuff Rand, just do the case. If they want to pull it out, let them do it up there.
In other words, he explained to the Commission, the government could file a no bill and the charges would be dropped.
Mr Waller said he was very annoyed and told perhaps a dozen people about it over several years, but lately thought the issue had died.
Mr Waller told the Commission today that he had been approached in April by two members of the ABC's Four Corners team.
He had several meetings with them, three in all, and the information that he passed on to them was eventually used in that Four Corners program,
which triggered the Royal Commission.
Alex Shan QC, representing Mr Rand, then cross-examined Magistrate Waller and suggested there may have been no phone call
and that someone was just using the Premier's name.
Mr Waller said perhaps that was right, but he was reporting only what he'd heard.
It was also revealed today that another former senior Magistrate, Mr Wollewa, had reported the alleged interference in the Humphreys case
to the then head of the Public Service Board back in 1979, but nothing was ever made public.
Mr Wollewa will be called before the Royal Commission to give evidence tomorrow.
Police forces throughout Australia had a who, us reaction today to accusations of corruption outlined in the Stuart Royal Commission.
In Brisbane, Queensland Police Union President, Senior Sergeant Cole Chant, said the generalisations left a taint on all police.
Against Queensland policemen, they should have probably presented some indictments and gone further with it
than just making general submissions that these things are rife in the community or in the police community.
Politically, the Commission findings have had a varied reaction.
Victoria and New South Wales have backed a joint, nationally sponsored effort to fight drug trafficking.
Here, Premier Jo Bielka-Pederson continues to oppose the establishment of a National Crimes Commission,
which seemingly puts him at odds with his own Police Minister.
I think any government that is informed of problem areas should be prepared to look realistically and say we could change our mind.
In Townsville, reaction to Commission suggestions that North Queensland is Australia's major drug link to the outside world,
today brought mixed thoughts, as Rick Anderton reports.
Police and undercover agents in North Queensland have been acutely aware of the drug problem for some time,
and in 1981, a special squad of police swooped on the Cape Tribulation area following reports of massive drug dealings in the area.
The result, a major seizure of drugs, although the ringleaders of the plantation had fled from the scene only hours earlier.
But it was only to be one of the major discoveries in the North in the next 18 months.
West of Townsville, a major haul of marijuana was uncovered outside of Charters Towers.
The major discoveries were coupled with several unsolved murders in the North, with the most puzzling, the fatal shooting of a couple at Gelattin in the tablelands.
Over the past two years, police in the North have been pressing for what they term as urgent reinforcements to help bolster patrols
in what they describe as one of the largest and most inaccessible areas in Australia.
A 34-year-old Jindalimand today was told he was unfit for human society by a Supreme Court judge
who had just sentenced him to life imprisonment for murder.
Gregory James Clark of Trevery Street Jindalimand had been found guilty to the murder last year of Inala taxi driver Georgina Jensen.
36-year-old Mrs Jensen, a mother of two who drove cabs on a casual basis to help supplement her family income,
picked up a fare at the Richlands Tavern late at night on the 29th of May last year.
Her body was found in long grass at Wakeholth next day.
Police evidence was that Mrs Jensen had been stabbed 20 times, including a close grouping of 11 wounds in the centre of the back.
Six days later, Clark appeared in the Western District's Magistrates Court at Inala, charged with her murder.
Passing sentence today, Mr Justice Connolly told Clark and the Supreme Court that he was unfit for human society,
and if he ever came up for parole, he, as trial judge, would recommend that the accused never be released.
Clark has now begun that life sentence.
In Darwin, Lindy Chamberlain, convicted for the murder of her 10-week-old daughter Azaria,
has been refused an application to have her baby daughter, Kahlia, with her in jail.
The baby, now six months old, is living with her father, Michael Chamberlain, and brothers Aidan and Regan near Newcastle.
On the decision to turn down the application, Northern Territory Minister for Community Development, Ian Tuxworth,
said inquiries revealed that Kahlia was already living in a loving and caring environment.
Warren Clark for NewsNight.
Three people were extradited from Townsville today in connection with an armed robbery in Sydney.
They'll appear in the Waverley Court of Petty Sessions in Sydney tomorrow. Robert Dean reports.
27-year-old Shane Spenlove appeared in Townsville Magistrates Court charged with murder and armed robbery,
while 24-year-old Gillian Ricketts was charged with being an accessory after the fact and armed robbery.
A third man, Russell Keith Green, faced the same charges as Spenlove.
Green was charged in Ingham Magistrates Court and was extradited from Townsville on a later flight from the other two.
Spenlove and Ricketts were in the custody of Sydney detectives when they arrived at Townsville Airport this afternoon.
When they appeared in court earlier, neither gave any evidence or asked questions while in the dock.
Spenlove and Green have both been charged with the murder of chemist Richard Michael Clanchy on the 23rd of May at Double Bay in Sydney.
Green was intercepted by detectives who stopped a Greyhound bus near Cardwell while the other two were caught in Townsville.
Our prisoners in Queensland jails getting a rough deal. Welfare Services Minister Terry White thinks just the opposite.
In fact, he thinks there is too much emphasis these days on the plight of the criminal and not enough on the plight of the victim.
Mr White will be joining me in the studio right after this break.
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Welcome back to Newsnight. The debate on the state of Queensland's prison system has continued this week with further allegations by the Prisoners Action Group on the state of the prisoners in our system.
And to answer some of these allegations this evening, the Minister responsible for prisons in Queensland, Mr Terry White. Good evening, sir.
Hello, Paul.
Is there need for reform, drastic reform of our prison system?
No, I don't really think so. What has to happen is a gradual period of change. And that's what we've been doing in Queensland.
If you introduce a dramatic series of reforms in any prison system, you'll run into a great deal of difficulty.
And this has been the problem, for example, that they had in New South Wales, where they came in with all these new trendy ideas, tried to turn the prison system upside down overnight.
And the end consequence of it was that one jail was completely burnt down. Four people were murdered in Parramatta Jail.
Recently a prison warder was almost hung. And they're the sort of great behavior problems that you have.
Queensland has had a long tradition of having a well-run prison system.
And what has happened over the years, progressive and enlightened reforms have been introduced gradually in concert with the needs of all people involved in the system.
This hasn't stopped the criticism that's constantly come from, say, the Prisoners Action Group, Mr Kev Hooper, of course, and others.
Well, of course, Mr Hooper is a constant critic, and I think we all know what that's all about.
The Prison Action Group have been a very militant group of people. Most of them have got a chip on their shoulder.
Most of them don't seem to have any concern whatsoever for the victims of crimes.
I'm getting a little bit tired. In fact, I've had a gutful of all this talk about prisoners' rights.
And I think it's time the public started to hear a little bit about the victims of these crimes.
Now, we've got people who have been raped, murdered, they've had their homes robbed, they've been assaulted at times, and things of this nature.
Now, those people have been seriously offended against. And if somebody's convicted of a major crime and sent to jail, well, they have to pay their penalty.
But that doesn't detract from the fact that prisoners do, in fact, have rights. And who is there at the moment to ensure that those rights are observed?
Well, if a prisoner has a grievance, he has a number of avenues to which to approach.
Firstly, he can approach the ombudsman. Secondly, he can approach the visiting magistrate, who are at the prisons regularly.
Thirdly, he has avenue to legal advice, and he can have either his own solicitor, or if he hasn't got the wherewithal to pay for a private solicitor, we can arrange legal aid.
And that's a regular occurrence. He, indeed, can write to me as the minister responsible, so he's got at least five avenues of which to approach if a prisoner has a legitimate grievance.
Now, we've had grievances in the prisons in Queensland since I've been the minister responsible. We always take them seriously.
We look into them, and for example, we had problems in the Rockhampton jail in the very first year I was in the ministry.
We had a magisterial inquiry, and as a consequence of that, action was taken against both prisoners and prison officers, so that if there is a genuine complaint...