Come on!
XPW was famous for his madness.
This is what extreme pro wrestling was like.
When we had a deathmatch, it was like a legal way of killing.
I was a foreign star living the dream of wrestling.
If we could humiliate and entertain people,
in 1999, porn director Rob Black decided to combine his love for deathmatches
and spirit of his provocative adult films.
Show me your boobs! Show me your boobs!
His dream was to promote extreme pro wrestling.
XPW was a favorite child of Rob.
He wanted success.
Oh no!
In order to become the best promoter in hardcore wrestling,
XPW celebrated those who were performing the most dangerous tricks.
When you wanted to run away, they put a gun in your ear to knock out all your brains.
And I killed you.
But that's okay.
Rob Black didn't respect wrestling because he knew nothing about wrestling.
Rob always thought he was a mafia.
You can't run away. No one leaves the family.
When violence broke out of the ring and settled into real life,
Rob Black's command over the region of young wrestlers fell,
because of the huge costs of lawyers, his porn and wrestling businesses began to collapse.
I don't remember the pain of it. I was in shock.
And then it got really bad.
Don't ask.
What were we thinking?
We weren't thinking.
Rob knew where to put pressure.
He said, how far can I go?
We were known for doing things that were taboo for many.
Can we do it?
And he went a little too far.
The dark side of the ring.
The extreme of indecency.
XPW Rob Black.
Rob Black.
Talk about my sweaty balls.
They're huge.
They're not hairy. They're smooth.
They're shaved.
But they're sweaty.
Are you surprised when you found out that Rob didn't want to be filmed?
To be honest, I think he's doomed anyway.
And it's probably gonna be better if he doesn't say anything, you know?
He's the type of guy where he wouldn't participate in other people's filming, in other people's projects.
If you just sit and ask questions outside of court.
That's not for Rob.
For those who don't know who Rob Black is.
Okay, I'm ready.
I'm Jessica Darling.
I was part of XPW for three years.
Look at that!
And I was also part of three associates contracts from the school.
Rob Black is so black.
You love him or you hate him.
I can do what I want.
I'm the owner of this company.
And you can't.
In terms of wrestling, Bob Blake was a real bad guy.
He was the owner of the promotion, the promoter.
And he had been in the adult film business his whole life.
Keep your arms back so you can see your boobs.
I'm gonna go with the camera.
He was doing stuff that today would be the norm.
Gaping, buckles, sitting, kicking and really wild sex.
He was doing everything no one else did.
It was our style.
We wanted to be the models.
I do everything I want because I'm the owner's wife.
Lizzie was the day adult film actress.
And she came to Extreme, started dating Rob.
What are you doing?
Stop.
Don't say anything.
Just come.
You said to ask.
No, no.
I have to ask.
Oh, I'm sorry.
She became his girlfriend and she was out of the business.
She didn't perform.
She directed and she did, and she was part of one team by the other hand.
Kiss me.
In addition to his addiction to violent pornography,
Rob Black was charmed by the world of hardcore wrestling.
And eventually he became friends with Paul Heyman,
the founder of the Extreme Wrestling Championship.
Paul Heyman.
BXPW was like a party.
New Jack is singing to Renato Angel.
We were having fun, having fun and taking drugs.
We were having fun.
I'm New Jack, a real gangster.
Where Paul brought together a group of guys who were just doing their job
and having a good time.
Joint strike.
When I remember about Rob Black and Paul Heyman's relationship,
I remember that Rob wanted to bring ECW to the west coast.
And there was a special agreement.
I'm David Marquez, I was the producer and director of the TV show XPW.
This is a new episode of XPW TV.
But when ECW concluded the agreement, we were like, why do we need Rob?
So there was no argument left for him.
Rob was extremely upset about ECW, and so XPW appeared.
Because for ECW, we have common hatred for this son of bitches, Paul Heyman.
That's what set Rob Black off.
We're gonna make this better than ECW.
Now I'm gonna do this to you.
I'm Joey House, a rock star of XPW
and owner of Santino Brothers Wrestling in Los Angeles, California.
Chaos!
I wasn't a huge wrestling fan growing up.
I was a huge fan of my uncle Supreme.
He is the godfather of deathmatch wrestling and his legacy.
Who am I? Supreme!
Because he's the one who loves professional wrestling.
I just tag along. I love my uncle.
I remember when Uncle Supreme said to me,
Hey, so you know there's porno wrestling out there.
Porno wrestling? Is there gonna be wrestling?
What is there?
I walked into the office, and Rob looked at me and said,
I now own a wrestling company, and you're now going to die.
So it was a crazy dynamic.
You would have girls having sex in the office,
there were scenes. We also had a ring in the back.
So guys going around, they were wrestling with girls
that no one saw and would come home for them.
It was definitely an eye-opener for me.
My name is Sylvia Muniz.
On the wrestling circuit in Jesbo room a little bit at XPW,
I was selling merch.
I was almost enjoying people in clothes.
It was more of a turn-on than seeing all the tits packed with this.
You know, there was a guy coming up to you,
and you were sitting there and talking,
and he's like, how's your wrestling scene?
And he does this, and I'm like, what are you talking about?
I'm just getting ready for the next scene.
You can't let it fall.
Typical situation.
I remember one time I came to the gym,
and there was a girl in the pool eating chicken,
and one time a guy was sitting on her, and they were filming it.
And I'm like, what is this shit?
I guess that's what I wanted to see, why XPW?
I remember getting my desk, going to the cafeteria,
and there was a woman dressed up as a Statue of Liberty,
and three guys with presidential masks on,
partaking film to see on the lunch table.
My name is Mark Hartfield.
I'm a former producer for XPW.
A lot of us would work on a nine-hour day,
and then stay in there for another seven, eight hours.
There were times when I slept in the ring.
In order to get paid for wrestling, I had to film porn.
Not that I was against it,
it's just that in those times, it was so offensive.
Here I am, and here you are,
I'm the president of the Amy family.
I filmed porn and shit out of the garbage.
I think a lot of girls from there
saw me as a... I hate this analogy,
but as a new kid, I guess.
And it was awesome.
Yeah, it was awesome.
My name is William Welch,
and in XPW they called me the Messiah.
And in that royal fight, Donnie Webb gave me a chair shot.
And I took a stroke, and I didn't cover it with my hands.
I was told that Robbo liked the fact that I didn't put my hands up.
Yeah, I mean, it was like an OCDW chair shot.
And then he walked up and he goes,
What the Jesus?
I went, what?
They wanted to call me Savior or Messiah.
And I didn't care, because I didn't care about those things.
But it's way better than Jesus.
At the time, I was working at a steakhouse.
And I came to work with big marks on my head from bleeding.
And they sent me home.
You can't be working with customers like that.
It looks like a horror movie.
Messiah was a big dog in XPW.
He took two belts at once, you know.
My guardian angel.
Messiah, baby.
Mr. XPW.
I think it was the drug that brought Robbo to Europe.
I don't know what happened, but we were brainwashed.
One in the field is not a warrior, so we have a team.
The team of those who are ready to go to battle.
The team that is going to win.
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There was no one who didn't blow their asses for that company.
I mean, some of the things I've seen, I don't know why they were doing it, but they did it.
In the long run, it was really, really stupid and we shouldn't have done it.
My name is Luke Hawks.
In XPW, I was called the obedient Luke.
I made a turn from the balcony to the table with the buttons where Supreme was lying.
The buttons hit me in the palm and broke, remaining inside.
I had to pull them out with pliers.
They told us, what else can you do?
Can you surpass yourself?
We wanted to start a fire, so we sent an assistant to get some lighter fluid.
It turns out he got kerosene on an oil-based.
The usual liquid for lighting a cigarette and it burns quickly.
They pour the liquid on the table, light the flame, and it doesn't burn.
We know what it should look like, but it's not happening.
It's just continuing to get a good flame.
And they start the fight.
There was so much fluid, so his shirt got soaked.
It was horrible.
It was absolutely horrible.
He was screaming around the ring.
I don't blame him.
I saw chaos.
He jumped on Supreme.
His skin stayed on the house.
It was just a serious trauma.
I went straight to the hospital.
I remember going upstairs to come see Uncle Supreme.
He was all wrapped up.
And he said to me, damn, that was a fucking great match.
The idea with the fire is awesome.
Yeah, that's how he reacted.
The roster was willing to sacrifice themselves on a nightly basis.
Along with tantalizing performances of porn stars,
the XPW has become an incident for the fans.
In response, ECW is hosting their first live show in Los Angeles.
He went!
Rob Black always thought of this as a mafia mentality.
So, in his opinion, ECW has come to our territory.
You're already in our yard.
Why? Why, Paul Heyman?
They wanted to shut us up.
In retaliation, Rob Black orders the team to hand out XPW leaflets.
And at the ring, he puts his best wrestlers in so that attention is on them.
Rob Black could make anyone support him.
100%.
He had that ability to get everything figured out so that everyone would say,
yeah, we're gonna die for you.
We're gonna die for you, bro.
Yeah, let's die for a good cause.
I was in the first row.
And then the main event comes on.
So I turn around and I'm like, yeah, that's it.
We were surrounded by guards.
One of them grabbed my neck with his big hand.
And we're getting thrown out of the building.
They closed the doors.
And silence.
There was so much noise.
And now there's silence.
And we're like, where is everyone?
Meanwhile, the team of XPW on the other side of the arena was not so lucky.
We got them.
I just recently had a leg surgery, and I hit someone on the face.
And he came up and said, no, Jack, I don't need any problems.
I said, no shit, and hit him.
You don't grab Supreme, you don't grab Messiah, you don't grab House.
You go and attack the weak guys from the team.
Am I right?
You and your whole company is a complete shit.
And it must, and it's PW, are gonna crush you.
The pieces of you in the toilet.
And I said straight away, Joey, this is stupid.
And deep down, I thought Rob Black was supposed to be there, too.
But where was he?
Dark Side of the Ring.
In April 2001, ECW closed because of financial problems.
Now their competitor Rob Black had the opportunity to invite their best talents into the XPW empire.
I'll be honest, everything that Rob Black said, I want to be honest with you.
He said, I'm gonna bring in Sabu, I'm gonna bring in Shane Douglas.
And we're like, all right.
And he took and brought.
And we're like, this is, this is real.
What the fuck, we had Terry Funk.
What an authority.
Terry Funk on the ring.
We did it.
Do you remember how he explained what XPW was gonna be?
It was gonna be ECW on steroids.
That's what he said.
Wait a minute.
But I laughed and said, I'm in.
I'm Sabu.
I left ECW, I was called by Rob.
And then I found out that they were half of a porn company.
Sabu was here, in XPW.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is Sabu.
And then he invited guys like Candida, Kronos, New Jack.
Which for you is the ring for wrestling.
For me, this is the battlefield.
And a few others.
We looked like we were out of condition because of ECW.
Did Paul and others from ECW judge you for participating in XPW?
What would they say?
I don't give a fuck about Paul.
I don't give a fuck about anyone, you know.
I don't give a fuck about money.
I need to eat something.
And get some porn.
Well, we're moving into our warehouse,
which is our home for our dirty, ugly pornography.
They told me, Jack, take whatever you want.
And I ran for the loader.
For my porn.
I shook out all the boxes.
I swear to God, I had over a thousand DVDs.
Despite the demise of his main competitor,
Rob continues to make the violence in XPW to disturbing new extremes.
There was a show where I was wrestling against Supreme and Angel.
And Supreme fell.
And I covered myself with a hand, and he beat me with a chair,
as if he wanted to kill me.
As soon as we got to the dressing room,
Rob Black was so angry and started yelling.
This is for XPW, you mother fucker!
We don't cover ourselves with our hands.
What the fuck?
He's like yelling, and I'm like, wait.
Did I do something wrong?
Because I was always taught, you know,
to put my hands up for a chair shot,
and don't stick your neck out.
So Jerry Lynn pulled me aside and said,
don't listen to him.
You did everything right.
You did it right.
And it looked great.
What I didn't know is that Rob's plans for the next show
was going to have him beat me like this,
as if I was on a cross,
and my arms would pull him out of the way.
And Supreme said that he had to hit me several times
with a chair on the head while I was unprotected with a chair.
And I had no idea what he was talking about.
God, did you hear that hit?
Luke's got no way of getting away, no way.
Looks like it's the last hit.
And I don't remember how the second and third shot went.
Oh my God.
I had a crack in my shoulder.
I didn't go to the doctor, there was no insurance,
but there was literally a dent in my shoulder.
I remember they were telling me,
you have a severe concussion, don't sleep, just sit up.
And I was sitting in my room, my head was pulsing,
I was nauseous, I didn't even know where I was,
and I didn't know if I was going to die.
And it's all because of the fool who doesn't get into wrestling
and thinks I have to answer for covering my head.
And because of the growing number of injuries
and the many interest in bloodthirsty crowds,
the Messiah was forced to reconsider his future in company.
I came up to the crowd with the belts and said,
enough with me, that's it, we don't have a place to live.
And he looked at me and said,
enough with you, enough with me, too.
I asked, what?
And he said, if you don't want me, then me too.
That's it, that's it.
I'm finished.
But I knew he would never stop doing XPW for my loss.
I was sure of it.
To be honest, I got beat.
That's it.
I remember talking to Lizzie,
and she said, he's always been like that.
He did the same thing to me, too.
Even when it came to Lizzie, it was the borderline.
Rob wanted Lizzie to flirt with the guys, and I asked, why?
Lizzie said, I don't know, he likes it.
Rob just loved that he had the hottest girlfriends.
You're cute.
Stop filming.
I'm trying, hon.
You won't get her, and she's flirting with you,
but that doesn't mean she wants you.
Well done.
But Rob and these kids did the same thing to me,
almost every couple of days.
Eamon said that they do it for the next movie,
Chicken Girl.
Now it's the other way around.
She gets jealous of other girls, and you know,
we're in a bit of a problem.
Every day they were arguing,
she'd just show up at my house,
and I think I got caught in the crossfire.
I was right in the middle of a fight
between Lizzie and Rob.
They used me as a chess piece.
You're so pretty.
Rob, just fuck off, don't film me.
Don't film me.
Let's see your boobs.
You want to film some shitty porn again.
You're lying.
I'm filming a movie.
No, you're not.
I want a movie.
Really?
With who?
Who can I film with?
No one.
Why do you need...
When we were talking about me,
it was just because things are taking too far.
I remember the first time I ever heard
that Missy and Lizzie Borden had an affair.
I remember when we were talking to Suprim.
No, it can't be.
No way.
We all love wrestling,
and we're all trying to make a go at it.
What happened?
Unfortunately, Lizzie and I had an affair.
When it happened,
I realized it smelled like fried food.
That robot doesn't give a shit who ate it.
If it's behind his back,
he doesn't give a shit.
I don't blame him.
He wanted to finish him off.
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When rumors about Missy and Lizzie Borden
start to spread,
when he doesn't appear on XPW,
they begin to circulate.
There was a house show at our warehouse,
and from what I understand,
Sabu showed up,
and Missy didn't.
I didn't tell anyone about it,
but I told Suprim or House.
How did it happen?
I don't know.
Rob found out about it.
And they got away.
He fucked our boss' wife,
and we were judged.
Really?
Why did he ruin everything for XPW?
Why?
Because he was the one who did it.
I slept with Billy, too.
And all of them got lost.
Rob Black, Lizzie Borden and Lizzie Borden
survived the betrayal.
But the Missy was flogged
and exiled from XPW.
And so the Missy was taken out of the company
through a bizarre story line
about a ghost in the warehouse.
Missy, you can't leave.
I need you.
Everything is on the map.
What do you think?
The Missy showed up
and disappeared.
He went to heaven,
and they explained his escape.
Another line for the company.
It's not funny.
You have to.
What the fuck am I doing?
I had a conversation with Rob.
He literally threatened me on the phone
and set me up before the deadline.
Three days.
You have three days left.
That's what I'm going to do to you, Billy.
I'm going to buy you a ticket to Michigan
and you're going to get out of California.
And I said to him,
I'm not going to run away.
I'm not running away.
With the loss of XPW,
the main star,
Rob Black decides to have
the most ambitious fight
with a high bet between New Jack
and Vic Grimes.
Without knowing Grimes,
New Jack wants to take revenge
for the skull fracture
he got in the last match
two years earlier.
Murder?
I'm talking about real murder.
That's what I'm getting ready for.
Who came up with the match with the bridge?
Rob Black.
He said,
We're going to have a match with the bridge.
The loser is thrown down.
I'm going to throw a coin.
I said, Rob, you can't throw coins all day long.
Vic is going to fly off
from this strange bridge.
I said, I'm not going to do this shit.
Vic is the only one.
All right, listen here.
We're going to change our conditions a little bit, all right?
We're going to put this crazy shit up.
The match with the free fall
requires a lot of preparation,
to say the least.
Everyone was certain that the bridge
would be used by the operators,
including the building itself.
If I had thought about the insurance
that normal companies do,
it probably would have been pretty difficult.
So, to bypass a lot of that,
I would just
make the insurances
or certificates on the computer.
I remember flying old
insurance certificates
there, scanning them,
wiping them out,
and then I just typed them up
and needed coverage.
I faxed them the certificates
that I made,
and I got all the things.
I got the insurance.
I'm ready for the show.
Wait a minute.
There was no insurance at the event?
Yeah.
Look at Grimes.
He's starting.
He's trying to get the big guys
up there bumping and fighting.
I remember seeing the thing
as I came back and forth and
the crowd went up.
Oh, and I could see
the scaffolding swaying.
What the hell is going to happen?
I just watched everything go off,
just crossing my fingers.
Please, God, please help us.
I hear the crowd gasping.
I look up, and it's like a stun gun.
Oh, take a look at this.
I could not believe it,
and I was just like, it's going to be over soon.
It's going to be over soon.
I'll never forget the expression
of this pure terror on Big's face
when he was like, pure terror.
It was a really intense moment,
but as he turned over,
his right-hander went over
and flipped him back into the ring.
If he had hit them back,
he would have slid out on the concrete.
If he had hit them back,
he would have slid out on the concrete
and cracked like a fucking egg.
It was very dangerous,
and I thought,
there is a God,
and he just saved his ass.
Viku Grimes needs medical help.
Please leave the building.
How did Rob Black react?
He was like, Jack,
it was great, thank you,
here's your bonus.
We didn't pay.
So,
I was on the last show
with Viku Grimes.
When I did it,
I thought, mission accomplished.
The job is done.
And I left.
With the departure of New Jack,
Rob Black loses another big star.
To make matters worse,
the Messiah publicly admits
in his novel with Lizzie Borden,
boasting about it at a show
in Southern California.
People from the Extreme Associates office
told me that Rob was keeping tabs on me,
and that he knew everything I was doing.
And from that,
I started getting very resentful.
Who the fuck?
Rob Black!
Go fuck yourself, Rob Black!
Go fuck yourself, Rob!
Rob thought he would never
ever hear from me again.
And I thought,
let Rob get away with it.
I was only happy about that.
I, your mother, hate this fucking vacuum cleaner.
And the crowd started shouting,
you fucked Lizzie.
You fucked his wife, Lizzie!
I was 23 years old,
I thought, how can a 23-year-old
be 23 years old?
And I yelled back,
and I fucking liked it.
It's not the smartest idea
I've ever done in my life.
Because up to that moment,
I just denied everything.
I remember saying,
Willy, forget about it, bro.
Just let it go, yeah, he fired you.
You fucked his wife,
you called the cops, and just forget about it.
If you're coming to get used to me
and threaten me,
I'm going to show you that you can't do that,
and that I'm not scared of you.
I'm not going to waste my time
talking about this shit.
The saddest of all,
the one next to WXPW,
the end is
Rob Black's frustration is only growing.
WXPW had a show,
and I purposefully
picked a place in the top section.
The match wasn't very good.
The crowd started throwing like a round of beach ball
to each other.
You know, beach ball gets sand.
And you know, the crowd was like, oh,
the crowd was not paying much attention.
I guess Rob found out that I was there.
And I was told to
temper him to that stage.
My phone rings inside my head.
Hey, you'd better get out.
What more do you want me to do?
Rob is pissed off.
And he'll get all of us
because you're here.
I hung up the phone,
and we left.
We left, and that's it.
I got back from work.
I just bought a Nintendo
and just wanted to play a little bit.
The front door opens,
and these two guys come in.
I thought this was my neighbor
in the room,
and they didn't say anything.
I even said hello.
I could see the reflection of these two guys
on TV.
I just saw one guy closing the door.
And then both of them go,
no, you get it.
You get it.
And I turn to them like this
to then just
put my head against your head.
One of them got me a chokehold.
But I knew he didn't know
how to do it right.
I got choked up all the time.
And I felt like
one of them got my hand down,
and the other one had clippers.
And he brought them up
to my thumb,
snapped it,
and the thumb popped right off.
Then they went to my other hand,
and I kept them in my fist,
so they couldn't get in these things on my hand
or in my fist.
We had a little fish tank
and busted it over my head.
They were trying to beat me to help me out.
I was able to get to the door
without having my thumb.
It was like I was waving at the lock.
So they got me pulled in,
and they just got to help me inside,
like, punching me in the face
or punching me anywhere.
By this point, both of them
were gassed out
and tired.
One of them hit me with a fist.
I got my hand in his fist
and just pulled it out,
and he screamed.
And when he screamed, I let go.
He made it to the door
and locked the door at the moment.
I opened the doors,
and they both ran out.
I got a cup of ice
and then began to trust my thumb.
But it was hard to find anything inside,
and I couldn't locate it,
and then I, it seems,
I lost consciousness.
Son, you're lucky.
I need the name,
the fucking name of this bookmaker's office.
Malphun.
Fucking Malphun.
Malphun.
You get up off your ass,
and you can't register online.
Now you can rip Jackpot.
While the Messiah was fighting off
hominids, his XPW colleagues
didn't know that he was under
and his life was in serious danger.
On this particular night,
we were going to shoot a video
for XPW-TV,
and then there was a knock on the door.
I opened the door,
and it was Rob Black.
What the fuck is Rob Black doing here?
Rob Black never comes here.
What is he doing here?
And he was not Rob Black that we knew.
He just sat on the couch
and we didn't understand what he needed.
Why are you here?
I didn't understand.
The next morning, Billy said
that two black guys came into his house
and attacked him.
I still don't know if they wanted to kill him
or not, but a lot of us
were in shock, and
you know, it was like an unforeseen situation.
I remember how I first saw it.
It was on American business wanted.
And I remember
I was sitting with my husband
and I was like, holy shit,
that's the Messiah.
Oh my god, they cut off his thumb.
What's going on?
Who really wanted to hurt the Messiah?
To answer that,
cops have been delving into the secret
and sometimes easy subculture
and indie wrestling.
I remember looking at my husband and saying,
we all know who did this.
We all know who's behind it.
But I can't prove it.
What's going on?
What's happening? Is it true?
Is Rob Black really involved in this?
No, come on.
And one day I asked Rob about it.
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Hello, this is New Jack.
I heard about what happened to the Messiah.
And don't pretend
that you don't know anything about it.
I said, did you do it?
And he was like, no, Jack,
I have nothing to do with it.
A lot of rumors. I didn't know you did it.
But Billy said that two black guys did it.
They came.
After this, I remember Rob Black saying,
watch out
with who you're hanging out with.
You might get cut off.
What does that mean?
Be careful with who you're hanging out with.
Because he was pissed that we were still friends with the Messiah.
Oh yeah, a hundred percent.
He was pissed that we were like, what kind of friends?
I actually ended up leaving that place
within a couple weeks
or a month after that.
It wasn't fun when people were going,
when they're mad or trying to shake your hand
going like that.
And they laughed about it.
There's no proof.
And this is just one girl talking.
We all think Rob is involved in this.
We asked for comments on this
and we didn't hear Rob Black's answer.
Messiah!
The best thing I could do
was to go back to what I love.
Was to go back doing what I love.
And it's wrestling.
And I did it.
Can everybody in this arena
look at this shit?
I don't have a big finger
and I don't give a shit.
Because I can still open a beer,
play video games
and write messages to everybody
I fucking want to.
With no evidence
linking Rob Black
with the assault on Messiah,
he's never charged.
However, he and Lizzie
are beginning to draw the attention
of federal authorities
for posting their videos
with their latest adult films.
A girl will be kidnapped,
forced to have sex,
being butchered at the end,
being spit on,
being duped.
We're not taking stuff that we're sitting in.
And we do it and we sell it
and people are having fun
because they were bored with other stuff.
They were doing such extreme stuff
and I wasn't into it
and it wasn't where I wanted to go.
And so I finally just said,
you know Rob,
this is enough for me.
I watched Night Talk.
This is Night Talk.
And this one random day,
Rob's against Ted Coppola.
He's trying to have some kind
of freedom of speech
and John Ashcroft,
the Attorney General
in the United States at the time,
coming after him.
We're not drug dealers
or murderers.
We're making movies.
Rob always wanted to be like
Hugh Hefter or Larry Fink.
We make movies.
Just like Hollywood makes movies.
Just like...
No, it's not comparable to Hollywood.
In your movies, women are brutally raped.
They're actually beaten up.
I'm fighting for your rights
for the first time.
But that's not the case. He fought for himself.
Zakari, quote,
should have challenged Attorney General Ashcroft
and said that Ashcroft, quote,
could not do anything against my films.
And I'm at home,
and I'm like,
you're throwing a challenge on Ashcroft?
You're throwing a challenge on the United States government?
Why would you do that?
Why would anyone do that?
There was a time when there was a meeting
in Rob's office.
Rob stood up at the desk and said,
hey, when we get raided by the feds,
everyone report to Kevin.
He'll pass you that information.
You need to talk to him.
When we get raided by the feds,
it wasn't if,
it was when.
I remember one morning
there was a raid on Extreme Associates.
We figured out what was going on,
because everyone was wearing
FBR jackets that you see in the movies
and on TV.
And we figured out
that the government somehow
found a way to detain Rob.
How can you go on
network coverage
and challenge the government?
Who does that?
And he did.
And the public.
They attacked me first,
because I talk the most.
You can't start a war on pornography
unless you get rid of
that is
fine you the most.
Right here, Federal Five.
These are the five cassettes
for which they can give me a lifetime.
I was really
interested on what it would do to
this problem.
That's a brilliant question.
Who in government is going to decide
what is decent for these
paid actors?
Rob knew what he was doing.
He knew that legally you can't
go to jail.
You can't do it.
But he didn't care.
The funny thing about my business
is that I don't force anybody.
The only people who are going to
watch my movies
are the 12 judges.
Facing multiple charges
for violating Federal laws
Rob Black and Rosie Gordon
face 50 years in prison
and billions in fines.
The legal battle
consumes all the resources
of Rob Black to put an end to XPW.
There were times
when checks were delayed
for a whole month.
There were 20 people
on the list
and literally everyone had
a check in their hand.
XPW will start in a few minutes.
Please take your seats
and get ready
for the extreme.
It killed the whole business.
All the money was spent
on lawyers.
You can't produce movies.
You can't pay a wrestler.
You can't pay actors.
I think he thought that
the adult industry
would help him.
But they saw him through.
He should have known it then
but now he knows it now.
Dude, government, they got more money,
they got more lawyers
and more time.
These accusations
dropped and dropped again
and one finally stuck.
Unable to know the cost of defense,
Rob and Rosie
opted to give each other single charges
in order to distribute
the same materials.
He got a year and a day,
if I'm not mistaken.
I remember when I heard that Rob and Rosie
were going to jail.
I can't feel bad for Lisa.
But I think she went down
just because her name was on the title.
I thought he got what he deserved
not because of what happened to me
but to go on TV
and ask
the government
to come and get me.
It's just his ego.
Absolute ego.
After serving his time,
Rob Black leaves me
wrestling behind
and his relationship with Lisa
came to an end.
You know, it's been so many years
and almost 20 years
and I'm asking myself,
if I could do it again, would I?
Yes.
Every moment, even the bad times.
Yes, of course I'd go back.
Because we had something
that was special there
and it wasn't just wrestlers
and it wasn't just Rob Black.
It was a combination of everything
that made the magic.
Now I'm in Hollywood,
living my dream
and I have the best job in the world
and it might not have been
if I wasn't in XPW.
That time is incredibly important to me.
All those friendships
and all the friendships
that are still happening to this day.
Me and Sylvia, we actually got
married at a pro wrestling show.
We're actually celebrating our
9th anniversary next week.
We're like peanut butter and jelly.
We love wrestling and that's it.
And my uncle Supreme,
people just really loved him.
Unfortunately, he passed away
last May 6th.
There's just a lot of love
when he passed away.
Just a lot of love.
That people were just messaging
and just talking about each other
and it really touched me.
But I just so wish
they just showed me
what it was like when he was alive
because he loved it.
He loved that shit.
But without Supreme,
I'd never be a wrestler.
I don't know what I'd be doing.
I'd probably be a truck driver.
He hugs his uncle Supreme!
I wouldn't change one thing
simple fact though.
All of that
has led me to my wife
and now I have two daughters.
So in my eyes,
it's not worth it.
Because at the end of the day,
Messiah doesn't mean anything.
As soon as I get home,
I just become a dad
and husband.
That's the most important thing for me.
What we're doing right now
will put XPW back
for a couple of months.
But they didn't do anything
to make it into history
other than throwing Vika Grimes
out of the fucking bridge.
He's happily married.
He has a couple of kids
and he's running a camera shop
that piece is somewhere.
I'm not sure where.
But I wonder if he could come back with you.
I have no idea
who Rob Black is now
or Robert Zucari is nowadays.
Because I wonder if he's still Rob Black.
And the engine.
Honey, why are you so worried?
Everything's going to be okay.
They turned away from me.
I'm playing games with them.
I'm sick of it.
It's going to be a new me.
People are going to regret what they did to me.
What are you talking about?
You'll see.
I need to drink something.
I'm dying here.
Did you turn away from him?
Got it.