Yves Brie in Wiltshire versus the Enterprise Culture Boys in Changing the Village.
The Enterprise Culture Boys in Changing the Village
Nobody in England today seems to like a Jack the Lag figure.
Nobody likes to think that an entrepreneur has come into the village.
People do not like change.
Have we got a hammer and a peg?
Can we get you a peg?
If you can get me a peg, because what I probably did is I moved when you were plumbing up.
Maybe if I was Lord Kingham Smythe that maybe I would be offering them in
and maybe they would be offering me out to drinks by now.
Maybe it's because I'm just Ken King, Jack the Lad type entrepreneur,
that they do not like that aspect of it. I don't know.
They've not met them. They haven't met me. They do not know what we are doing here.
Robbie, that's probably me at that end, Buster.
Buster, the peg's in there, so that's right. It's me at that end.
Yeah. No, in this way.
Well, I take my dog for a walk every day, morning and evening.
He's called Max. He's a lovely bearded collie.
And I noticed as these walks went along that things were happening there.
There was an old barn on the North Drive which was pulled down
and they started laying foundation stones and bricks and things.
And I said to them, the workmen there, I said,
what say you just redoing the garage here in this barn? They said yes.
Well, as time went by, it was quite clear they weren't doing that.
They were building a series of an office on the ground floor
and they were obviously going to do something on another floor
for which no planning permission had been asked.
And then in the rose garden next to the churchyard, bricks were being put down
and then bricks were being put and foundations laid all the way along the path to Avebury.
And I realised that something very fundamental was happening here.
And that was when I really first became alerted to it and alerted others to it.
Are you finishing that tonight, Rick, and that's it, finished?
Oh, you've got that gable.
You won't finish that tonight, will you?
Tonight? Lovely.
How are you doing, Duff?
OK. All right.
All your gratings in...
Lovely.
Getting on with it?
I'll phone Bill tonight then, shall I?
Phone Bill tonight and get him down next week?
Yes, by all means.
Because his towels are turned up today now.
Just faceless to go on now.
What we're against is the intrusion of developers.
What we're in favour of, what we're working for,
is the preservation of Avebury as a world heritage site and a living village.
We're not against individuals, personalities, we're not against changes.
After all, Avebury has seen more changes, perhaps, than any village in Britain
in its 5,000 years.
We're not against those, but we do believe that this is not a place
for the big enterprise culture sharp boys,
the developers, the property and tourism developers.
We feel that we've taken them by storm.
All of a sudden, we've had our juggernauts, our concrete mixers in,
we've had our brick lorries, our tile lorries in,
and everything of this sort of nature, and all of a sudden,
it's, good God, what is going on?
It's all going too fast.
Well, to get anywhere in this day and age, you've got to act fast,
you've got to get on with things and you've got to do it now.
Thanks for coming down again, Martin.
How did your journey go?
Not too bad, apart from the rain and the M25.
Yeah, a bit messy then, doesn't it?
That's right.
Right, as you know, Ken, we submitted the planning application
and they've now come back to me and said they want further drawings
to go with what they have already.
Over and above actually what they've already asked for
at the last big meeting?
That's right.
Do you think that's being a bit plain funny, Buggers, with us?
Well, I think what they are, they're very worried about Avebury Manor
being an important site and in a way they're putting you through it, I think.
One of the things I tried to say to them was that how we see the house now
in its decay and how quiet it is, it's very romantic,
but it's to do with decay and dereliction and ultimate ruin.
It's slipping away, isn't it?
That's right, it was originally, let's say in the 18th century
back to the 16th century, the house had been bustling with life,
with trades going on with servants and family,
it was the important social centre.
It would have been the hub, isn't it?
The hub of the village.
Things going on all the time.
And what we're trying to do is to recreate that atmosphere
in an important building, again, without destroying its character
but to complement it.
It's very difficult to get that over to planning authorities
who are rather rigid and fundamentally uncreative
about their approach to it.
I think also the press have been a little bit adverse
because they've said theme park, they've said monorails
and they've said this sort of thing.
It's a Walt Disney sort of approach.
They try to make out.
The situation with it is that we are recreating the history
of this house and that's what we've got to get together.
Everything that went on here during the time
and the time during the Elizabethan reign,
we want to gain in the house.
I think, unfortunately, that he was labelled
with the phrase of developer
and therefore was deemed to be untrustworthy.
In some ways, I think that this is a fair judgment
to the extent that he seems to me to be inspirational
and impatient and that if he makes up his mind
that he wants to do something,
he tends to rush ahead and do it.
Ken was told that if he was restoring a building,
he didn't need planning permission.
Unfortunately, his restoration resulted
in the original building falling down
and has been much more wholesale than anyone expected
so that he now does require planning permission.
Those planning applications went in last week,
but Kennet didn't find them satisfactory
and have asked for more information
and we hope they're going to get cleared
through the planning committee of Kennet District Council
on the 12th of January.
When I actually saw what he was doing,
I thought, my God, he's just boredose
and everything to pieces
and no man could possibly have any love
for the place doing this.
But as I see it gradually falling together,
I think he's trying to put things back as it was,
but perhaps the easy way.
I'm very much in favour with anything
to do with the Elizabethan age
and I think his figures, all dressed in beautiful
Elizabethan costumes, would be an added attraction
to the manor and to the visitors
and I think it would be very nice.
Do you want to check this position?
Yes, please, Jane, yeah.
Say how you want him to look.
What I'd like to do is as if he's just been startled
coming into the room.
Right, OK.
What we have to do is cut the back of the neck away
and also cut the fibreglass to get him to do that
and what do you think about this if we have him like that?
And obviously we're going to get the startled light effect,
are we?
Yeah, when we get the glass eyes in,
we'll make him look maybe thorough his brow a bit more.
Yeah, as if he's got an expression on his face
to say who's coming in.
Who's coming in?
Lovely, lovely.
The nice thing about it now is the real locals,
the people who have lived here all their life,
are actually with me and the scheme.
They want to see the house being put back together again.
They've obviously seen it in its heyday
and they've seen it slip slide away over the last 20, 30 years.
I've got a guy come in yesterday, lovely old boy,
local, Frank Fishlock, about 78.
He's a local villager?
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, he's been here all his life
and he's actually worked in the house
and he confirms that he's seen it let go, you know?
Yes, go downhill.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, he came in yesterday with a petition.
I took on the unthankful job of going round
and seeing what people really thought about it
and I did these houses round here and some places I miss.
And when I went round the next day, they said,
oh, we're glad you've come.
We've heard all about it
and we thought you'd been and missed us out
and they couldn't sign fast enough for him
to carry on with what he's doing
because a lot of these people now living in the council houses
are young people with young children
and they're thinking of the future,
perhaps if Kent can get something going,
there'll be work for their children and that.
He's not a middle-class import?
No, no, no.
I mean, he is actually one of the villagers
and he stated to us and the papers
that he doesn't want these so-called blowings
into the village and telling the villagers
what they should do with their little village.
What's right and wrong.
Exactly.
They're coming down here every year, he says,
and then he says, they're telling us what to do,
where to walk, how far to walk and all this.
We're not having that, he says.
I think it's utterly rude for tourists to come
and see something like,
no tourist beyond this sign turning or parking.
I think that's very rude.
If I saw it anywhere,
I wouldn't stop to even spend a penny there.
I think it's a terrible danger,
this coming into a sort of class thing,
and that would be a very great pity.
I don't mind where Ken King comes from
or what his background is or anything about him at all.
What I do object to is his,
what I see is the commercial exploitation
and to a certain degree the vandalism of the manor
and what he's going to put up in the grounds.
He says he's going to restore the manor.
Well, that's obviously a very good thing,
and the manor I'm informed
has got a lot of structural defect to it.
If he's going to do that so much, the better.
And I don't mind a bit Ken King doing things within reason,
but you see, what he's going to do,
he's going to falsify history there.
He doesn't know anything about history, in my view,
and he's been burrowing around.
As far as I know, there was no torture dungeons in Avebury at all.
I mean, what he's quoted as saying
is he's going to put skulls, thumbscrews, shackles
tastefully displayed in a semi-basement.
Well, that's got nothing to do with the history of Avebury.
But if he does things reasonably and with the taste,
which in fact he doesn't have,
that's all right. I'm all for it.
The situation we need obviously is that the library hasn't been open.
The door that we came through from the ante room
hasn't been open for about five years.
There's been no heating on in the place for five years.
So the situation with it is it's been absolutely shut.
No ventilation, no heating,
and that's why it's in such a bloody state as you see it today.
The water is literally running off from some of the bottom shelves.
Yeah.
But like I said, it'll be a bit of everything, really.
There will all be leather bindings.
They're all leather bindings, yeah. Super.
You'll have a few vellum ones as well.
That's the white ones. Yes.
Any reason for that?
Just to break it up a bit,
I mean, you're going to have all different colours anyway.
Yeah. Lovely.
You know, shame to have all dark ones.
It's going to look really grand when it's filmed.
We're all aware that we formed Ave Breen Danger
a mere one month ago as a voluntary organisation
to work for the preservation of Ave Breen
as a World Heritage Site and a living, real English village.
Now, I think we would all agree
that the Ave Breen Manor scheme represents
the unattractive face of the enterprise culture,
and we are determined to exercise our democratic rights to resist it.
That's our aim.
He was taking a photograph here. Yeah.
I wish I'd seen it, I'll tell you.
They've got the cheek of Bloody Nickeye, haven't they?
Anyone else got any thoughts on the best strategy to adopt?
Sorry to interrupt once more.
But before we go on to that,
am I right in thinking that somebody,
is it Lord Avebury or somebody who's getting in touch with UNESCO
to try and get from them a statement?
There was a letter. Yes, there's a letter here.
From Jane Fawcett, who's Secretary of ICOMOS,
which is the International Council on Monuments and Sites,
and she has written to the Independent, I think, on Friday,
and part of what she says is,
as an international organisation responsible
for advising UNESCO on World Heritage Sites,
we have already made strong representations
to Kennet District Council and alerted English Heritage,
the Department of the Environment, the National Trust
and the International Council for British Archaeology.
We trust that the theme park proposal will be thrown out.
This is the second scheme involving
wholly unacceptable commercialisation of Avebury,
which we have opposed this year, whatever next.
Bloody lot couldn't keep up with me, I'll tell you.
It's not ravaging again here.
All right, more blocks? Yep.
What is going on?
There's a lot walking, mate.
Someone comes in and says,
I want to... I've bought the manor,
I want to restore it and live there with my family,
but I can only do it on a commercial basis,
therefore I've got to be allowed to do a bit of commerce
in the grounds and so on.
That is one approach.
The other approach is that he comes in and says this,
but in fact spends little on the restoration of the manor
and all the money on commercialising the grounds.
That is exactly the suspicion we have of what is going on.
Hugh, as you know, in the Thamesdown tourist brochure,
Ken King has said that he does intend
to turn the manor into a theme park.
It's in that brochure that Thamesdown send out.
So he's saying on one hand he's not going to make it a theme park
and then he's saying in another document he is.
So that's the kind of veracity of the man.
That's the sort of reliance you can place on his word.
So you'll be earning it tomorrow then, boss, won't you?
I'm not the kid getting it down off everybody.
Have you counted up, Ricky?
How much will we owe you this week?
Lots, I think.
Well, we're not going home.
It doesn't matter?
No, no.
We'll just let it all next week.
Just the tiles around the weekend?
Yeah, so you can get down above?
Yeah.
I think that the feeling of the meeting is, one,
we ought to write to English Heritage
and ask them to get stuck into the question of survey
of a Grade 1 listed building.
Secondly, we ought to write to the Kennet District Council now,
just as Richard has said now, giving our arguments,
and that that letter should, am I right,
should urge rejection of the lot, failing which deferral,
pending study of new use and intensification of use,
and the production of a plan.
So we deal with the Secretary of State direct on that.
So it's a two-pronged attack.
Early February, the Planning Committee members came around
on our invitation.
They had a look around the grounds, the greenhouse,
the falconry areas, the carpentry areas,
and, of course, they came into the house
and had a little exhibition.
They seemed to have had a good day on that day,
and that was obviously the preempt to the planning
for the 9th of February.
Ladies and gentlemen, the whole roof is going to come off.
The frame of the roof is staying,
but these horrid lights in the roof are going.
On the back of the building,
which you can see from the other side,
there are corrugated plastic sheets on the roof
and have been for many years.
A lot of people say that I am ruining
the beauty of Avery and its manor.
I will be taking them down
and I will be putting a stone-clad roof on it.
To my mind, what we're doing here
is completely opposite what people are stating.
Nice to see you. Hello, John.
John basically is Gillian's younger brother
and Janet his wife.
They have been contracted to come down here
to be the estate's managers,
and this is Janet and John's life, we hope now.
We'll have a cup of tea and then we'll start unloading, shall we?
They're going to make sure that our cream is fresh,
our cakes are fresh,
our sandwiches are not hard,
our tea and coffee is hot.
No escapes now, then.
This is it.
They've got your bedroom in here.
We've got the flag up as well, Janet.
Yes, it's the anniversary of the accession to the Queen.
Queen's accession.
So, this is it. That's the day.
We've started.
We obviously know now that the estate's office
is not going to be ready and waiting in time,
so you're now living in the house.
We've sorted out all the Elizabethan players.
In fact, they were down here this morning
when the councillors were down here,
and we've had a large meeting with all the councillors this morning,
and that meeting seemed to go very, very well indeed.
The planners were a bit standoffish in some respects,
but the councillors wanted to talk about it.
They wanted to come in and see what was going on.
So, obviously, the situation with it
is that they are the people who are going to say yes or no.
What do you think of the fencing and everything?
You'll be amazed down the bottom.
It doesn't make it look a bit like a ranch.
It does a bit, John, but we've got to funnel the tourists.
We've got to cancel the flagpoles going up this week
because I didn't think that the planners would like that plan last.
So they're going up next week.
Lovely plan.
The applications that we've got with the Canick District Council today
are the greenhouse for selling a few of the plants
and roses from the herb and rose garden.
We've got the estate's office
and accommodation for the estate's manager.
Two or three blocks of craft barns.
We've got the falconry muse and the falconer's kitchen.
And, of course, the vintage car shelter for my vintage cars
together with the adventure playground,
which is the wooden stockaded castle effect
with all of the play equipment inside,
including the equipment for the disabled child.
I'm hoping that the majority of them will be passed today.
If we don't get any applications today passed,
then we're going to implement our B-road plan of attack,
which doesn't require any planning permissions
from the Canick District Council at all.
It's not what I want, unfortunately,
and it's unfortunately not what the Canick District Council are going to want.
But our B-road of attack does not need any planning permissions at all whatsoever.
And we shall carry on along that road.
We will be opening on the 24th of March, Good Friday.
Mr King advised us that he had been in consultation
with his solicitor and his architect,
and their advice to him had been that he didn't need planning consent
for these various buildings and works.
We advised him that we didn't agree with him,
and as a result of that he did stop work
and submitted the necessary planning applications.
The problem is that the committee members made it quite clear today
that they regarded this as a flagrant attempt to get round planning control
on a site where he couldn't reasonably have expected
to get away with such development.
Partly as a result of that and partly because they didn't feel
that what he's now built is appropriate,
they have decided to refuse all seven of the planning applications he submitted
and to take enforcement action to ensure that those are removed.
Of course, he will still be able to open the manor house.
He will still be able to use the restaurant,
which is the rackets called Converted,
into a restaurant for which he already has permission,
and the Dove Cod, which he can use as an information centre.
And of course he can also do things inside the manor itself,
which was not part of the refusal this afternoon.
Otherwise, I think that's about the end of what Mr King can do.
Myself and for the Trust must be very satisfied with this outcome.
Avery is a very vulnerable place.
The large number of visitors we have a delicate balance to keep
between preserving the monument and allowing the largest numbers of people
to enjoy the peace and tranquillity that exists at the moment.
There are a great many things to enjoy at Avery
without an element of deliberate attainment,
and I think that that element is what we've seen turned down today.
Disaster, complete disaster.
We were very disappointed that in fact we didn't get any of the planning permissions.
Plan B will obviously take effect from today onwards.
The situation is obviously the Kennet Dickstrip Council have taken it on their back
with their councillors that of course they're trying to put one down on Ken King
because of course he's overstepped the mark.
As one of the papers said, well, we can't have Jack the Lad about, can we?
The situation with it is Jack the Lad's going to be about,
and he's going to open his Elizabethan Experience on Good Friday,
which the public will be able to enter.
I know that Mr King wants to open the manor house at Easter,
and obviously he'll want to complete as much as he can of the works that he is allowed to do
so that he can open the manor house to as many people as possible.
Because of the amount of work that's already gone on,
I would have to assume that he will want to pursue the matter as far as he possibly can
and as quickly as possible.
To that end, he could of course immediately appeal against all the planning refusals,
which would set in train the appeals procedure and a possible public inquiry.
That will take something of the order of four to five months to arrange
from the date when he submits his appeal,
so it's unlikely we'll be holding a public inquiry much before the middle to end of the summer.
Following on from that appeal, the inspector will make a report to the Secretary of State,
and ultimately a decision will follow.
The craft barns unfortunately have been stopped.
The enforcement orders on the craft barns and one or two other items have now been placed upon us,
and the stop notices have in fact been awarded to me as well.
My frustration with that at the moment is that we are obviously going to appeal on that,
and if need be we will take that further and go to High Court.
However, everybody's turning up, the Elizabethan players are turning up,
the Falcons are turning up on Monday, the Elizabethan players are here this afternoon,
so it's all gelling together quite nicely.
The only one thing that we won't have is the craft market.
Good morning, Mrs Jackson. Nice of you to come along for an interview.
You've got such a charming and bubbly face.
One thing I must just say to you, Avery Manor will be opening on March 24th, as described,
and I just wanted to know if you had any sort of feelings actually on what you've been reading in the local press?
Well, to be quite honest, I tend to disregard anything to do with planning applications
that I read in the press in Wiltshire, having lived here for quite a few years,
and things do tend to get blown out of all proportion until you actually come and see for yourself.
You tend to disregard, you use your own sort of feelings about places when you go and see them.
All businesses have a cash flow situation, and we need now visitors in our tourist attraction,
and that is quite plain and simple about it.
What it would also entail is to wear these lovely costumes here.
It really does add to the atmosphere of the Elizabethan experience at Avery Manor.
The gentleman will also be in their costume.
For example, the car park attendant will be wearing something similar to that.
Another gentleman that we'll have working on the actual estate or in the grounds.
You're used to wearing a uniform, of course, though.
Yes, I am. I'm not quite like that.
It is all being done at the highest of taste possible,
within keeping with Avery Manor and its past.
So he understands the period.
Oh, without a shadow of a doubt, yes.
He adores history. He's a great man. In fact, he overwhelms us with it.
We can't keep up with it all.
Reading through your application form, you've schooled a floristry.
That's right, yes.
So how many years have you been doing that for now?
About nine years for floristry and about 15 for flower arranging.
I could always do flowers in the house if you wanted.
I've got some pictures if you want to see them.
Yes, please. Lovely.
I think. Having said that, I hope I put them in.
Like that was for... How charming.
Lovely.
And these ones are modern and abstract.
Oh, yes, I see. Abstract, yeah.
It's an artist. It is.
And that's a seashore one.
Very good. Very good indeed.
And that's another weeny-weeny one.
Ah, lovely. They are very good indeed. Very good.
It's just a basket.
That connection down there is a bloody total mess.
Let's put some of it first.
Working in this shit as well is absolutely bloody disgusting.
That is not the colour.
I was an interior design consultant for 12 years, Jill.
That is bright orange.
That is nowhere near the colour.
Let me finish.
That is nowhere near the colour that you showed me and that I chose.
Nowhere near.
My till sits here.
My trays sit here.
I take my trays out of here, put them where the bloody till is.
This place is a tit. We've been trying to carry stuff over homes.
I've had arrangers. I've made lorries come down and we've come down.
I've found the trendiest stuff everywhere.
What you are saying to me is because all this water is in here,
then that is my mistake.
I came down here yesterday...
This mess is my mistake.
...demonstrating the kitchen to your staff.
Are you stating that this mess is my mistake?
I'm not saying anything about this mess.
The drains were not flopped up.
They were being tested by the building regulation officer.
Nobody told me that.
Have you seen down here with the disgusting bloody state of the work
that has been put in here?
The leads, the overflow leads from all three machines
are nowhere near long enough.
Are they or are they not long enough?
They're too short. That's one job.
The bloody thing on here is wrong.
The whole thing where I look is wrong, for God's sake.
You can see the site.
We've had terrible conditions getting cookers and pieces of equipment
which are very valuable, which Mr King is playing for.
We're trying to get them over a building site
with large holes in the ground.
We've had to manhandle stuff,
really like carrying through trenches almost.
Our whole lines have done a very good job
and we come back every day full of mud and muck and cold.
It's really impossible to work here
and I feel very proud with the lads that work for me in the company
because they've really put in a very good effort
and all I've got this morning is slanging
and I really feel extremely upset
because we are a good reputable company
and we have done our best
and it will be open on time in spite of everything.
The signs have arrived.
The A-boards have arrived.
Are the light boards up?
The light boards have arrived.
We've had problems before you got back.
The ice cream has arrived.
We had a panic trying to get the fridges up and running
before we could put it in.
The power's been going off about three times every hour.
I've had to run up here and switch that back on.
I do know how to do that now.
If somebody applies for something for town planning
and they're unsuccessful,
usually what happens then is that the person doesn't proceed
and they perhaps come back on another tack and try again.
And as you all know, not so Mr King.
It's just proceeded.
Now the law is framed in such a way
that it assumes people are reasonable and law-abiding
so immediately the town planning law
isn't really structured for this situation.
In comparatively recent times,
a new weapon has come in called the stop notice,
which is rather like the small man's injunction.
And stop notices have been issued on Mr King.
For every notice that arrives,
Mr King has to do something about it.
He's then in a binding legal situation.
He must consult with his agents, with his lawyer.
He's probably got intended times of going to court.
He's got to pay his staff.
He quite probably is going to have to pay a lot of fines.
And quite shortly, it's going to be a full-time job.
Somebody else is going to have to run Avebury Manor
because he's going to be so busy on this front.
We still haven't got any litter bins.
We'll have to go for plastic dust bins.
Try and get ten of them tomorrow morning.
Put around the place.
We've missed it then. We've got no litter bins.
Yeah.
When? Saturday.
Could well be.
Linda has ascertained some nice wooden ones up in Blackpool.
Really? Yeah.
Eight dust bins in £600. Linda fell off a chair.
What we need to do somehow is to stop Mr King
earning money this year.
And it seems to me that we ought to urge the local authority
to serve an injunction to stop him actually
encouraging traffic down his driveway.
Because if you stop him earning money,
with all the other matters...
Now, that's the sole purpose of all this work,
is to earn money. Yes.
And if he can get two million people through the gates
for us this weekend, he'd be delighted.
Why can't the bloody workers get out?
They're still here. They put in correct what was wrong.
John, may I say that they have, I hope,
put some sheets down on that carpet?
Yes, I have checked them three times.
Right, who's had me teal-wise?
It's cardboard. Somebody's had me teal-wise.
It's cardboard, not sheets.
It is protected. I have checked it now and again.
I don't want him putting his boots on the carpet.
It sounds as though my range of crockery
for the server is not here either.
Well, no, that's Jill Cooper.
No, it's not Jill Cooper.
I know she's not, but I haven't seen it.
We've had some round bowls.
Well, that's what I'm after. Right.
Yeah, white round bowls. That's it.
Two packages of them. That's fine. French.
Come on, everybody. The bag's a bloody time to do it.
We can get on with it, Tony.
We can sleep tonight. We can't have a sleep last night.
That's all right.
One day's enough to go without sleep,
but two days is a bit much.
But if he disregards if he's not going to put his foot in,
what happens? Wait a minute.
They take him to court? Yes.
They take him to court,
and he would be convicted of ignoring these notices,
and he would be fined, just like Mr de Savory was fined.
If he's got 89 of them,
and suppose he was given the maximum fine for each of them,
maybe they're not all fineable notices,
but a good 20 must be,
he's in for a very severe hiding.
Now, it seems to me that the district council
has thought this through
and have decided to apply everything they've got,
and I do think now that the owner of Avery Manor
is on a disaster course.
MUSIC
Well, generally speaking,
the real Avery person is all for it.
It brings life to the manor, life to the village,
and also employment,
and they're only doing what was here
over and over again, really,
perhaps in a larger way.
But we have got a few new people in the village,
and some have come to live amongst us
who just don't seem to want anything.
I think they're interested largely archaeological or otherwise.
There are people who are retired,
and they've got rather set,
and they don't like this new idea about things.
And they don't really join in much,
so they've really come here to go to sleep, I think.
SHE LAUGHS
Can wake everybody up.
MUSIC
Ready, be done.
APPLAUSE
The roadway, obviously, is going to be done.
The tidying up of the park is going to be done.
So basically, in about a month's time,
it will be looking much nicer than what it is now.
Especially when things start to grow again.
It's still winter-looking.
No doubt we will have one or two new ideas
for the future of Avery Manor,
which has got to be an enterprise.
It's got to have a bit of an enterprise
so that we can actually continue,
and we feel that that has got to grow
in the next maybe five to ten years.
It's going to take that long to get back together,
because, of course, we have a good 20 to 30 years of rot to sort out.