Sometimes and then when you see someone who's not singing anything but his voice and using true gifted It's got sort of sort of makes you think okay I can wake up and handle another day in the business because it gets strange Well in Elton when he first arrived in the country and started rehearsing the whole Rehearsing with the auction that but on that very first or second day I'll call him on the second day up here in Sydney We're so blown out about the fact and he said it on countdown about the fact that of Farnham Who deserves the success a long time ago, and he believed in his talent How hard is it well ask both of you for Australians really to get through to the international market? It's not as hard as it used to be I mean like it's very strange for me saying it because I came here as an American I still am and Well people say they talked about Australia at one point just about kangaroos now It's kind of straight this flavor of the month all over the world Right and it feels really good because we had to go to America and started that basically try and become famous now They'll come to us. It feels really nice. I mean it's about time Well now Ross with yourself. I mean like Eagle Rock which is now become one of the great songs in Australia It's very old song that still doesn't matter. I mean you put it on that on You know as a DJ I can put it on and it fills the dance for you know yeah That's kind of nice so I mean like was it hard back in daddy cool days of when you went to America and Everyone was gonna say they're going to be like really big no You don't believe it though. I feel funny thing is I mean I still haven't made it outside of Australia So I've got a personal you about it. Yes, it is hard But you know what I'm still trying it the main thing is that I think it's great that we're still making records I'm still being out of putting the songs out if that ever stopped it would be really difficult talking about you know Someone that's trying to make it in the business. There's a guy. There's this budding artist the back is a drummer I mean like see I mean like and I mean he may make it one day the record you know my son the other day Phil yeah, I did Oh Hello Molly. How are you? How was last night's concert in Melbourne? It was okay. It was dry right yeah We weren't expecting it to be dry. We were Anticipating rain, but it was dry now for someone No someone that was with as a record producer and everything else forgetting Genesis and your own solo career as a producer and working with musicians How hard is it the transition between rock and roll and working with symphony orchestras? Well, it's hard. I mean I've never done it. You see really I've been out my experience I would think I mean you've worked with think in a session thing yeah It's getting to play in time is tough because everybody has a different sense of time anyway, and they work with different Different downbeats and of course for drama Charlie's got his work cut out for him tonight I would think right that Jesus great drummer, so you're probably probably do marvelous I'd love to ask you a million questions, but I think I better go back to Richard and good to see you nice to be hey back to you Richard Thanks, Molly James Newton Howard we spoke to a little earlier, but again for those New Zealand people who didn't get a chance to sit He's one of the many people that Elton have had with him for a long time throughout his career He's the conductor and also one of the music arrangers when we spoke to him about how he became involved in this particular project I got called Elton I think called me in January and Quite honestly when I got the first call it seemed Like such a massive undertaking that I had I was a bit skeptical as to whether it actually ever get pulled off But as the months went by And I didn't hear anything to the contrary I thought why better get work to work on the arrangements because we are in fact going to do this thing The arrangements that Paul originally did were so wonderful and so revolutionary And still in fact hold up to this to this day that I didn't want to change them particularly very much The intent was to maintain the best of the orchestrations and and there was a very distinctive flavor in those orchestrations and in all of Elton's Excuse me earlier records, which I was very interested in maintaining The one thing that I was aware of was that Paul was a cello player and tended to write Very elaborate cello lines and bass lines which work quite beautifully on a record The danger was that in a live situation because of the cavernous size a lot of places were playing and the and the potential Interference with the electric bass on stage that it was necessary to simplify it a little bit So really it was just a process of a bit of simplification a little bit of expanding for some of the instruments that weren't included in his original charts I had some doubts. Sure. I think everybody had some doubts everybody was a I don't know if they'd say doubts I think everybody was nervous. Everybody had invested a lot of time in this project and Now the time had finally come where the opening night was only a couple of days away and was it going to in fact work? It worked on paper everyone knew or I knew that your orchestrations would be good. I knew that the symphony would be wonderful I knew that Elton would perform Brilliantly as always I knew the band would be great Whether or not the whole thing would be able to mesh and actually work was another story. I think that the biggest concern was because all of the stringed instruments are mic'd with actually little pickups on the On the instruments themselves that the biggest concern was would we in fact be able to get the PA loud enough Without having that feedback into the bugs and therefore creating a feedback problem So that it had the same kind of impact as the first half of the show And I think that was a concern during the first few sound checks, but when the place filled up with people absorbed some of that Ambient sound and it did work very well The very first rehearsal was in Melbourne. Actually. I was there a week early before he joined The actual band and the orchestra got together just to go over notes and make things work It was it was quite tense for me there. I was I was nervous for a number of reasons I didn't know anybody in the orchestra. I was Concerned that there would be massive amounts of wrong notes that I would have to correct and it would be difficult when in fact the orchestra was extremely cooperative and the Not meaning to plug my copyist, but the copying was wonderful and everything really went very smoothly When we actually got together with Elton, I think it was one of the most emotional experiences of my life Musically it was it was Musically it was the most satisfying moment of my life To have been involved with the orchestration so long And with Elton so many years prior to that and to really have that many components of my life as a musician come together and work Reasonably well was very gratifying James Newton Howard and just before we go back to see Elton for the second half got someone with me who you may recognize from the movie Desperately seeking Susan, but you may not know that she's also James Newton Howard's wife Rosanna Arquette. Welcome along. Thank you very much Yeah, and so you of course have been suffering with James through all of these preparation for this enormous tour Oh, I wasn't really suffering. It was just nice to watch him work. He's very excited to be able to you know conduct the Melbourne Symphony It's quite an honor to be on the road with Elton again is nice Yeah, it's been really nice things weren't too tense over the brekkie table as he's trying to work out the string arrangements and stuff He had a lot of work to do but you know, he was excited about coming here So it was it worked out well, right and by the way, happy anniversary Apparently today's the wedding anniversary three months. Hey, and they said it wouldn't last. That's great Yes, and how much time do you get to see each other for because like you're so busy with your film career and he's busy touring It's been nice that I could come on the road with him. It's the first time that I've ever done this and it's been I really like Australia And he visits me but we have a great relationship because we both have our works Yeah, we're very supportive of each other suppose you have to understand that before you kick off into it And congratulations to on the number of movies you've been doing since desperately seeking Susan Constantly and we saw what it's been after hours Silverado and now in Australia 8 million ways to die Yes, you don't love 8 million ways today so much do you? No, it's not the movie that it they they kind of ruined it in the editing not the director that studio took it away from him So it's not the movie that I think it would be that can often happen I don't know how much people realize that that you do something and then you think that was great And walk away and when you see it again, it wasn't quite the way you imagined it Yeah, that happens a lot in movies because you're not it's usually the studios that have the power to do that They do what they want what they think is gonna make more money, you know Unfortunately in America, I don't know how they do it in Australia. Same way same way So they'll give you the edge to go out and do an independent production of your own sort of thing or yes I'm hoping to work with Ray Cooper who is the percussionist and on something we're gonna do something together That's good. Now you were telling me earlier that you've also got another movie out right now in the States It's a movie called nobody's fool with Eric Robertson. It's a romantic comedy Great. Great. So you've been really busy. What do you got planned for Chrissy? You're gonna go home and have a rest or we're gonna go to Tahiti. Oh, it's going you know, how long you're spending there Well, that's really our honeymoon because we didn't have a honeymoon. Okay doing strings. We write it. You know, we're writing strings Yeah, right. So you're looking forward to that. When do you take off for that? Tomorrow. Oh, no, the day after we're gonna see Genesis tomorrow, which I'm excited about. Yeah, your big favorite band you were saying Besides this one. Yes. All right. Well, listen Roseanne, we'll let you get back and see the rest of the concert Thanks so much for chatting to us. Terrific. Have a good night for the rest of the tonight and we'll go now And I believe that Elton John's heading on to stage So let's go back to Elton John the tour de force the final Australian concert his band and the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra His band and the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra