Live from Music City, U.S.A., it's Nashville now.
Our guests tonight are marvelous Mel Tillis,
along with family members Pan, Mel Junior, Connie, Carrie,
Cindy, and Hannah Tillis.
And now, live from the Opryland, U.S.A. complex,
here's the host of Nashville Now, Ralph Emory.
Gary, thank you very much.
Tonight I can be Ralph Tillis.
Good evening, everybody, and welcome on this Eve of Thanksgiving.
That's right, tomorrow is that unavoidable day
when the turkey population goes down
and the Alka-Seltzer sales go up.
From coast to coast, the annual Pig Out of Gratitude.
That begins the seasonal challenge
to you homemakers in our audience,
the challenge that goes,
how many times can I disguise these turkey leftovers
and get away with it?
Well, if this is a family time of year,
tonight's show is more than right on the money,
because we have one of the ruling families
of country music on our show tonight.
We've got the Tillis clan, all of them,
as you heard Gary call the roll at the start of the show.
And after taking a headcount,
I'm surprised Mel had any time left over to make any hit records.
But they're all here tonight,
and so is the man responsible for each and every one of them.
They call him Daddy, I call him ol' Mel.
Would you please welcome Mel Tillis?
Thank you all.
When I met her down in Austin,
she had eyes you could get lost in
as big and wide as the river of Rio Grande.
She said, hi, you all, intersected Texas draw.
Well, it was more than this old cowboy could stand.
She was a little angel, long and lean,
said she held from Abilene.
She came here to dance the night away.
So I gazed at her left hand,
saw she wore an old cowboy's brand,
and I said, this must be my lucky day.
She's a tall drink of water.
Hey, she's a tall drink of water,
and I'm a thirsty, thirsty man.
She's a tall drink of water,
full of sand,
and I'm a gonna drink her if I can.
All right.
Well, then this rancher's daughter
chugged a long star that I'd bought her,
and I just knew she was my kind of girl.
I said, hi, I'm from Dallas.
What's your name?
She said, Alice.
Come on, cowboy, let's go give it a whirl.
Well, we wore a hoe right through that floor
till I just couldn't dance no more,
and she said, oh, thanks a lot,
and then she walked away.
Well, I barely made it back to the bar
close to the need to see peon
when about that time I heard some cowboy say,
hey, look at that tall drink of water.
Look at that tall drink of water.
Say, look at that tall drink of water.
And I'm a thirsty, thirsty man.
She's that tall drink of water,
and it doesn't full of sand,
and I'm a gonna drink her if I can.
Oh, me see.
Oh, little mouse, little mouse.
She's a tall drink of water.
Hey, she's a tall drink of water,
and I'm a thirsty, thirsty man.
She's that tall drink of water,
and it doesn't full of sand,
and I'm a gonna drink her if I can, yeah.
I'm a gonna drink her if I can, boy.
I'm a gonna drink her if I can.
Oh, me see.
Oh!
applause
Well, hello, Daddy.
Hello, Ralph.
Welcome to the show.
Thank you, Ralph.
Oh, it's nice to be here.
This is gonna be a lot of fun.
Nice to be here, Ralph.
That's nice to have you here.
Got a story for you already.
All right.
A friend of mine is a psychic.
Psychic?
Yeah, and he got the feeling pretty strong about his talents,
and he jumped out in front of a freight train,
and they were gonna stop it,
and he stood out there,
and he did like this to the train,
and the train ran right over him and killed him,
but there sure was a lot of bent spoons in that dining car.
I think that might have gone over the heads of a lot of people.
Yeah, it went over mine.
I forgot half of it.
How you been, Ralph?
I believe there is a man who claims that with his mind,
he can bend spoons.
You know, I've seen him bend spoons and everything,
especially at my house around Thanksgiving.
Mel, I have some information that came from your kids,
and I'm going to use it to jog your memory.
Uh-oh.
For instance...
Let me hear this.
For instance, do you remember this incident?
Someone pulled a weatherstripping off of your first Cadillac.
Nobody would confess to it, so everybody got whipped.
Is that true?
I believe.
You know, that's been a long time ago, Ralph,
but I think I remember something like that.
They wouldn't tell on each other,
and so I'd get them all to make sure I got him.
Well, that's one way.
Do you remember the last time, perhaps the only other time,
that anyone ever had all of your family on the show, on a show?
I do remember that.
I believe in 1969, Porter Wagner Show,
or maybe before that, with the Porter Wagner Show.
The Porter Wagner Show, 21 years ago.
Was it 21 years ago?
And they sang Hang Down Your Head, Tom Dooley...
Yeah.
...and Little Liza Jean, and the girls...
Well, I didn't have all of them.
At that time, I only had four.
And the girls shared a dressing room with Dolly Parton.
With Dolly Parton.
You ought to see my girls now, Dolly.
I'll tell you what, I was interested.
I had not seen Carrie since she came on the program
I used to do called Pop Goes the Country,
when she was four, and she played the...
She was taking the Suzuki Method,
and she played the fiddle.
Right.
And she has grown into a beautiful woman.
Yes, she has. I'm awfully proud of my children.
Well, this ought to be a lot of fun.
How many kids do you have?
I've got five girls and one boy,
which proves that stuttering ain't got nothing to do with it.
Let me ask you a question.
Can you name all their birthdays?
If I stop and think I can.
Alright, when's Pam's birthday?
July the 19th.
Oh, I don't think I've got time to do it this way, Mel.
I thought you could just pop them off one at a time.
No, I can't pop off nothing.
Okay, this is a special family edition of Nashville Now,
and we'll be back with Mel Tillis
and the various members of his family right after this.
We'll be right back.
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All right, Mel, what I'd like to do here is,
as we bring each of your children on,
you just tell me any little story you can think of that pops into your head,
and we're about to bring on Pam.
Well, when Pam was about four years old, three or four years old,
she'd do a great impersonation of Jack Benny.
She'd come out, and I remember that so well.
She'd come out, and she'd put her little hand up there, and she said,
Well.
And I thought that was cute, but I remember that of her.
And I remember her crying.
She had a gravel in her voice.
That's how she cried.
That's what I remember the most about when she was.
Pam, of course, has grown now,
and she's just signed with a major label, Arista Records, or Arista Records,
and she will have her first single out, I believe, after the first of the year.
Would you please welcome Miss Pam Tillis?
Thank you.
It's been kicking around since 72
And there's not a whole lot that it ain't been through
Well, they never quite learn to play by the rules
I've been running every dreamer
Well, it's given in where it didn't belong
Oh, and it's been weak when it should've been strong
And you'd think by now it would've turned to stone
But the flame burns bright as ever
And the flame burns bright as ever
I've got a broken tumble heart
Well, it took a few falls till it got smart
But it's still tender in the deepest part
This broken tumble heart
Well, it's never let a shelter lie
And then those love cuts deeper than the sharpest knife
And it struggled with the wrongs and rights
When there were no easy answers
And it beats so lowly in the still of the night
And it craves someone just to hold it tight
And it never will give up the fight
For a love that'll last forever
Hey, a love that'll last forever
I've got a broken tumble heart
Well, it took a few falls till it got smart
But it's still tender in the deepest part
This broken tumble heart
I've got a broken tumble heart
Well, it took a few falls till it got smart
But it's still tender in the deepest part
This broken tumble heart
It's been kicking around since 72
And there's not a whole lot that it ain't been through
And it never quite learned to play by rules
And there's one in every dreamer
Applause
That's called Ruffin' Tumble Heart
And Pam is a co-writer of that song
Hello, Pam
Mwah!
Welcome to the show
I believe Highway 101 recorded that song too
Mwah!
That's right, Ralph
I'm gonna come back to you in a second
Your daddy just said, oh, I thought about something else about you
Yes, and I'll never forget that
Pam was in diapers
And her mother went to the store
I had been out all night somewhere
Pitching a song to Webb Pierce or Farron Young or something
And that took about three or four nights
And I was home
And my wife had to go to the grocery store
And she left me with Pam
And Pam was about, I don't know, 18 or 19
Maybe 20 months old
Still in diapers
I went to sleep with her up there with me in the bed
And somehow or another she managed to get her diapers off
Her diaper off
And she used the bathroom on my head
And it was the worst kind, you know
Yes, I understand
What did I do to deserve this?
Oh, no
I've been trying to make up for that for the last so many years
Pam, you want to tell me a story about your daddy?
A story about my dad
Okay, I'm gonna get you
Okay
He went on the road to Europe
And he was gone, oh, I don't know, six weeks
Plenty of time to buy presents
And we did get some postcards
But anyway, he came home
And he brought us these dolls
And he said, yeah, look what I got you from over there and everything
And we got to looking
And they had a metro airport on the bottom of them
No, you're close, you're close
I bought them all a little lunch pail, you know
Where they could go to kindergarten, don't you remember?
And it was little
And I looked on the bottom of it when I got home
They said, y'all said, daddy
These were made in Nashville, Tennessee, Aladdin lamp
Aladdin
Did you buy these in Europe?
Yeah
It was little Winnie the Pooh lunch
Yeah, they make those here
And they made them right here
And I lugged them things all the way across Europe
Found them right here
Pam, did your daddy ever try to scare the family?
Scare us
But I got a report from one of the kids that he would put on a stocking
Oh, yeah, he did all kinds of things
I want you to describe it
Well, it was horrible, Ralph
It was scary
What would he do?
He just put the hose on his face and it would mash all his features down
Well, would he run around outside the house?
Yeah, he would beat on the window or make scary sounds
I was on a ghost that stuttered
So we knew it was him
Well, would he just do this?
Would this be at Halloween?
No, just periodically, just to keep us in line
How old were you?
It's different, but it worked
How old were you?
Oh, I don't remember now
Probably seven or eight
And, you know, I also like to say, you know
People think that daddy was just successful
And we lived in a mansion the minute we hit Nashville
But we used to live in Florida until I was seven
And we lived in a...
There was four of us children at the time
And we had a two-bedroom house
And three of us girls slept in one bed
And we'd come a long way since then
Yeah, that was on the lake
And then the babies slept in the bedroom with mom and dad
But we'd cover up, tuck the covers underneath us
So the mosquitoes wouldn't bite us
But they bit through the covers anyway
That was in Groveland
It was tough, you know, down in Groveland
Which is near Disney World
So you were not living in a mansion at that time?
No, it was kind of rustic
Yeah, this was when Mel, I guess, worked for the railroad
Well, no, it was after that, but...
Well, I was a songwriter, I was a struggling writer
Well, I remember, Mel, when you came to Nashville with your songs
When I first met you, you still would go back to Florida
And work for the railroad
I'd go back and work for the railroad a while
Yeah, we went back
I was on the extra board for a year
I worked for the ACL, the Atlantic Coastline Railroad
And I worked 37 days in one year
And the other time, I'd come up here
Right
To try to get on as a songwriter
And that worked pretty well
All right, we're going to take a little break tonight
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And in a moment, you will meet Mel Tillis, Jr.
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Now we're going to introduce another member of the Nell Tillers clan
This is Sonny Boy or Mel Tillers Jr.
This is Mel Jr. He's 26 years old
He just got married, Ralph
Not too long ago to a beautiful little girl named Madeleine
And I remember Sonny Boy, I sent him to count with Webb Jr.
Webb Pierce Jr.?
Webb Pierce, I sent him to Crest Ridge
That's in North Carolina, Ridge Crest
Ridge Crest
Ridge Crest, the girls side is Crest Ridge
I sent him to church camp, Baptist
And he's saying, Ruby, don't take your love to town
At the church camp
And something else I remembered about him was
One Easter, I bought him some Easter biddies
You know, that there's pink, red
And he got confused, he thought they were ducks
And he threw them in the water and drowned them
You mean baby peepees?
Yeah, little chickens
Biddies?
Little biddies, we call them
I've never heard it
You've never heard biddies?
I've never heard biddies
Just baby chickens
Yeah, baby chicks, and he drowned them
You mean he threw them all in the pond?
And drowned them
And said, Daddy, the ducks can't swim
And their feet were sticking right up
Oh
Well, how old was he?
He wasn't very old, he was about five maybe
Now, am I correct, the family nickname for him is Sonny Boy
Sonny Boy, we called him Son, and then it was Sonny Boy
And it still stands today, that's what we call him
He's the one that pulled the chrome off that Cadillac, wasn't he?
Either he or Sandy, I haven't
No, I know
I've narrowed it to him or Sandy
No, I have it on good authority, it's him
Oh, it was Son?
Uh-huh
I think he has confessed
Yes
Thank you, folks, please welcome Mel Tillis, Jr.
Applause
She found me out
Positively without a doubt
That I love her, that I need her
I can't do without my baby
But now she knows
I thought I could make it
On my own
I dared her to break it
With this hardest stone
She looked right through me
With those pale blue eyes
She slowly unblued me
And cut me down the side
She found me out
Positively without a doubt
That I love her, that I need her
I can't do without my baby
Now she knows
I love her, that I need her
I can't do without my baby
Now she knows
I love her, that I need her
I can't do without my baby
I tried to hide it
Hide it away
I thought I could find it
What can I say
Whisper by whisper
Touched by tender touch
I broke under the pressure
Of warning her too much
She found me out
Positively without a doubt
That I love her, that I need her
I can't do without my baby
Now she knows
Everybody's had a secret
But they ain't got no more
Once upon a time I had a secret
But that was long before
She found me out
Positively without a doubt
That I love her, that I need her
I can't do without my baby
Now she knows
She knows
That's Matt Ellis Jr.
with an assist from his sister, Pam,
and they co-wrote the song.
Sonny Boy, welcome to the show.
You did good, son.
That's a good job, buddy.
Let's clear something up.
Right off the top.
You did, you were...
I didn't do it, Ralph.
What?
I didn't pull the stripping off the car.
Is that what you were going to ask me?
Yes.
Cindy did it.
That's what you always said.
I think Cindy did it.
I don't know, maybe they interviewed Cindy.
This says someone, Sonny...
Cindy always blamed everybody.
This says someone, Sonny,
pulled the weather stripping off Mel's first Cadillac.
Nobody confessed, so they all got whipped.
Then it goes on to say,
get Sonny to confess to it.
Get Sonny to confess to it.
You're saying you didn't do it.
Well, I guess I did.
Oh, now you're saying you did.
Forty million people out there.
I'll ask both of you,
is there anything else that you did as youngsters
that Mel, to this day, does not know about?
Oh, Ralph, are you kidding?
You know, he was on the road a lot of times,
so probably 95% of what we did wrong he didn't know.
He couldn't pinpoint any one person,
and we had to stick together, you know.
We had to defend each other.
We had a code of honor, you know.
I understand that.
Now, I'm sure our audience would like to know
if you're going to, since you are Mel Tillis Jr.,
if you're going to pursue a singing career.
Well, I'm working on it.
I'm concentrating on my writing at this point in my career
and trying to get that off the ground,
and hopefully within the next five years,
hopefully the opportunity will arise and I can sing.
You're hearing Pam, I think.
Did you write that song?
Yeah, we did.
You're Pam.
I mentioned that as you crossed over.
Thank you.
We had a Lee Greenwood song.
You had a song that Lee Greenwood recorded?
Yes, sir.
Great song.
And I'm certainly going to get a cut here and there.
Just trudging along, lowly songwriter.
Well, it happens to all young songwriters.
It happened to your daddy.
You get one cut, and then you hope you'll get another one.
It inspires you.
Once you get something recorded,
it inspires you to write something else.
And every time I'd write one, I'd say,
well, is that all you got, stuttering boy?
And I don't know.
It sort of helped me to write something else.
What was the first hit that you wrote that was recorded by?
Webb Pierce, Oh Lord, I'm Tired.
Okay.
The first song I had recorded was recorded,
and you won't believe this, Johnny T. Talley.
I remember.
He was a disc jockey.
Yeah, a disc jockey from Minneapolis.
A song called I've Changed by a Wild, Wild, Wild, Wild, Wild Mind.
Of course, daddy couldn't sing that to save his life.
But he could write it.
Of course, now, I know there was some confusion.
Some songs dad wrote people didn't know about,
because I got an Everly Brothers,
an old vintage Everly Brothers record at home,
and it's got Nell Tillis.
Oh, Nell Tillis?
Misspelled Nell.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, well, I remember when Nell first came here,
we wondered...
Okay, we're going to take a break.
If you've just tuned in, tonight is Nell Tillis Family Night.
We're having Nell and his kids on the show,
and I think up next we're going to meet Connie.
Connie Tillis, right.
We'll be right back.
Nashville Now with Nell Tillis and family
will continue after this on the Nashville Network.
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and this will be Connie.
Tell us, Mel, your comments about Connie.
Connie, I'll always remember her.
She liked to sing.
I did put on little plays for me,
and she'd sing the Yellow Big Road,
that song with Dorothy...
Oh, from The Wizard of Oz.
Yeah, she'd sing that song.
She had a little fictitious friend that she named Augie G. Marr,
and we never didn't know who it was.
It was just somebody that she'd made up, you know,
but I remember that about her.
Well, tonight she's going to sing Crazy.
Would you please welcome Connie Tillis?
Thank you.
I'm crazy, crazy for feeling so lonely And I'm crazy, I'm crazy for feeling blue
Oh, wondering if my love, if my love could hold you
I'm crazy for crying, crazy for trying And I'm crazy for loving you
I'm wondering why do I let myself wander Oh, worrying what in the world should I do
I'm crazy for thinking that my love could hold you
I'm crazy for crying, crazy for trying And I'm crazy for loving you
Oh, worrying why do I let myself worry
Oh, wondering what in the world should I do
I'm crazy for thinking that my love could hold you I'm crazy for crying, crazy for trying
And I'm crazy for loving you Oh, crazy for crying, crazy for trying
And I'm crazy for loving you
Hello, Connie. Good job. Welcome to the show.
Are we taking these according to age?
No.
Is this the way they were born?
No.
Pound was first, and then Connie, and then Sandy, and then Son, and then Carrie, and then Hannah.
Okay. How you doing, Connie?
I'm doing just great, thanks.
Well, welcome to the Klan.
Well, I'm glad to be here.
What do you do?
I'm living in Knoxville right now, and I'm thinking about going to school in January.
Are you meeting to the University of Tennessee?
I'm not real sure. I'm checking out colleges down there, and so I'm just kind of taking my time and making sure I get into the right one.
How many of the girls are married?
Well, as a matter of fact, none of us are married anymore.
Okay.
Oh, well.
Well, I didn't know that. Now, Mel.
Well, he's not, you know.
Yeah, Mel Jr. got married.
Oh, I know that.
Mel Jr. got married this past summer. Didn't you girls sing at his wedding?
Yes, we did, and it was a fine job, and I think that's what sparked this show today. I'm pretty sure that's what did it.
No, it's to find out who took the stripping off the Cadillac.
Oh, that's it. We got to get to the bottom of that.
What did you sing at Sonny Boy's wedding?
We sang a song that we're going to do tonight. It's off the Stevie Wonder's character album, and it's called With Every Beat of My Heart.
And I believe Dad said, well, I didn't know you girls could sing, and we said, see, we've been trying to tell you this for a long time, and it went over really well, and everybody seemed to enjoy it, and we had a great time doing it.
Yeah, it was written by Stevie Wonder.
Right.
He was in a country mood, and he wrote this song.
Do you girls remember sharing the dressing room with Dolly Parton when you were much younger?
There wasn't room for all of us.
All?
Well, actually.
No, but Dolly was so nice. That's one thing I do remember about that show was how nice she was. She was real sweet to us.
And she remembered me years later. She says, hey, girlfriend. You know, she was great.
But at that time, all of you were just little tykes, weren't you?
We were little.
We were talking about another reunion show when all of you appeared on the Porter Wagner Show some years ago.
Right, and Mom made all our dresses.
All right, I'm going to take a little break right here. We have more tilluses to come, and I think Carrie is up next. We'll be right back right after this.
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You know, I can still remember the very first candy given to me by my grandfather. It was Werther's Original, and I was four.
I had a little trouble opening that shiny golden wrapper, but then, well, I'll never forget that first taste.
Sweet and creamy and just plain good. But there was something else, too.
I remember feeling I must be somebody very special when my grandpa gave me his wonderful butter candy.
So, now I'm the grandfather. And what else would I give my little grandson but my Werther's Original? He's somebody special, too.
A little cheddar makes a plain potato. Mmm, scrumptious, but without the cheddar cheese.
Uh, nothing.
So add a little cheddar cheese.
Oh, thank you.
And add a lot of taste. Cheese makes all the difference.
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