or it tells us what it was like and that is one of them here's Joe now Joe can
you hear it okay yes you are live hey we are live we're at the 9500 block of
Recita Boulevard and this probably is going to be the worst damage we've seen
we're told this was a three-story building part of it has collapsed onto
itself there have been a number of rescues and just a few minutes ago they took one
man out of a second story apartment we're told that the situation was just
terrible when it hit no wait this was a three story building on you are looking
right now at a rescue camp at the first floor were you in the building when it
happened I'm on the third floor and the the stairwells were all blocked with
rubble and stuff I had to climb through all of that and then jump from the
second floor somebody was there to brace my fall got a couple of scratches on my
legs but nothing big our house is totaled cars totaled everything's gone again
seven confirmed dead eight people were transported to the hospital for
treatment of their injuries now do you expect more fatalities I hope not I have
to tell you that but it is a complete and chaotic catastrophic collapse there
was people at 430 in the morning and again not knowing how many we're hoping
for the best how bad was it pretty bad I can't I can't I can't describe how bad
it was and okay now your friends who came to check on you said that you're a
hero you pulled some people out well I just felt people out of there I don't
concern myself a hero just trying to help them out of there how much time was
there between the earthquake and when the building started to collapse feeling
came right down on me and it was just seconds it seemed like I couldn't find
anything I couldn't all I know is the one wall came in the ceiling came down
and and somebody got me out I mean everybody was just in extreme fear and
it was just it was just a high anxiety situation how many people who you know
who live on the first floor have you seen out I've heard a couple people that
I knew in the building that were okay but I didn't actually know the people
that lived in the frontier or the rear chair we were in the middle tier and
we're just lucky to be alive unbelievable the bad news again five
people confirmed dead including a 14 year old boy I'm Joe McMahon reporting
live from Northridge back to you now forced of course the number of dead in
this building is now estimated to be 14 people eight people were taken out of
this building alive but very serious injury since we arrived here about two
hours ago this is a center of emergency personnel helicopters are flying all
over and the ground has been rocking and rolling since we arrived every few
minutes very serious tremors in the sense that it causes cars to move and
and this building very early this morning Los Angeles time when the
earthquake was at its peak moved six feet to the north and then six feet to
the south and as you can see it's a two-story building over here and it's a
three-story building over here this building actually was twisted and
torqued in two different directions John there's a terrible serendipitous
quality to what earthquakes do that is to say that one building is affected
well not far away another building is unaffected this may be a very difficult
question to answer but what happened to this building why is it the one that it
went through this do you think well I think it's a combination are you
absolutely right I mean everyone feels an earthquake but it's a certain kind of
randomness that determines which building is weak which building gets
that particular resonance of energy that's going to crumble it in this case
I think in San Fernando Valley and that this was the epicenter you've got very
unstable ground around here and so anything can happen
John as they sort through the rubble there do they believe that there might
be more bodies still inside do they have any idea at this point three times
they've entered this building there are some disaster assessments the personnel
in there right now they they aren't saying for sure if everyone is out but
they've gone in three times they've been in there once during an aftershock and
and hightailed it out of there it's expected that federal officials will
come in and make a complete check of the 130 unit structure John Harkinberry at
that apartment building where 14 people we know have been killed that is in
Northridge which was the epicenter of the earthquake again six point six on the
Richter scale now the people who were injured at apartment building in fact
people all throughout Los Angeles were sent to hospitals beginning in the
early morning hours and it was a desperate scene hospital emergency
rooms absolutely filled to capacity in fact some treatment was being offered
out in in a parking lot some hospitals forced to close when they lost power now
one hospital that was able to stay open you see the location there is Cedars
Sinai Medical Center the people who work there say it was like a day they have
never seen any other time we went there with our cameras and we followed head
nurse Paul Johnson as he went about his job
I wasn't her most of the time in bed these are my days off
I hung out on the beach for a few minutes and then decided to come in what we've
seen is a very large influx of patients with either broken arms or legs last
duration particularly to the feet a lot of cardiac patients
apparently the two centers are down and we've got a hundred patients in the LA
area that need to be dialed today
no
the positions of nurses have responded without being called actually people that
are in a position to come and people don't have family responsibilities
people who are not from areas that are structurally damaged they've been able
to come in and
Peter no I haven't seen a situation that's bad in the house
this is a major event in the local area here we responded to it that way that I've never seen
that I've worked at I've been nursing for a year and that is how it was for head
nurse Paul Johnson now bear with us we are trying to bring you the freshest
information that we possibly can and sometimes we rely on old-fashioned
technologies we're going to do that right now I'm going to telephone and
with us is Mary Flores she is with the emergency room medical services of
Cedars Sinai Hospital Mary if you would tell me how the situation is fairing for
you there right now well things are still running pretty steady we're
heading upwards towards seeing almost 250 patients in the last 14 hours we've
admitted 27 to 30 patients 11 of those being cardiac victims are you able to
handle everybody that's coming in so far we've been able to handle everybody
that's come through our doors we're also accommodating a local hospital who's
diverting patients and evacuating how serious are the injuries that you're
seeing we've seen like I say several cardiac victims critical and very
serious condition we've seen a lot of lacerations limb trauma some neurological
trauma I presume you haven't been able to save everyone no we have had three
deaths today are you beginning to see the the people coming through their slack
off is the flow at least beginning to die down a little bit not really it's
been pretty steady all afternoon it's 525 our time here in California and we
still have a lot of people walking into our department well you've got a tough
job ahead of you through the night Mary Flores thank you for taking the time to
talk to you welcome as you do your job throughout the area other hospitals are
also facing those kinds of problems but they are trying to handle it as well as
they can we'll bring you more information about that as the program goes
on when we come back we're going to take a look at what was the real source of
the trouble it was an earthquake fault that had never been heard of until today
day one will continue in a moment
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once again for us so for how many years have we been hearing about the big one
that people feared was going to come to Los Angeles that big earthquake that was
going to cause so many problems for how many years have we been hearing about
the danger of the San Andreas fault one of the ironies of this day is that this
earthquake was triggered by neither one of those in fact it was caused by a fault
that until today nobody had even heard of it is now called the new thrust fault
the powerful earthquake that hits Southern California today is part of an
ongoing movement of the earth's crust the scientists say will slide Los Angeles
north to where San Francisco is located over the next 50 million years the
epicenter of the quake struck at 430 in the morning on a previously unknown
fault located 20 miles northwest of downtown LA that fault is part of the
San Andreas fault system which runs from the Gulf of California to Mendocino this
new fault which has not yet been given an official name is one Fisher off of
the main fault line the crust of the earth is fractured in many places here
the San Andreas fault looks like a scar in the earth rocks on either side of the
fracture have shifted so that the earth's crust no longer matches up what
happens is that one side of the Fisher thrusts up over the other building
pressure eventually the pressure becomes too great and the rocks rupture that
rupture creates an earthquake the sound waves traveling through the earth are
seismic tremors which scientists measure today's quake registered six point six
on the Richter scale each number on the scale signifies a force earth
quake could have been much worse here's a list of the most disastrous this
century the great San Francisco earthquake of 1906 measured an eight
point three the 1989 San Francisco quake was a seven which is still four times
more powerful than the one today perhaps we can put this in a little better
perspective with us is Waverly person who is with the National Earthquake
Center in Golden Colorado and has been following this all through the day mr.
person give us just a sense of it we say at six point six on the Richter scale not
nearly as bad as other earthquakes we have seen that have been called major
earthquakes but where does this fit in that hierarchy of quakes that you've
followed this is a strong earthquake magnitude six point six and what one
has to realize that this earthquake occurred in a heavily populated area it
was a shallow earthquake and that's the reason for the damage that we have been
experiencing in that area is because of being in a heavily populated area and
this is why we have the death toll that we have and the damage that we have is
because it's right in a heavily populated area I see behind you what
looks to be a sort of real with some ink that is on it yeah this is the
this is a seismograph station that's very close to the epicenter if you note
now you can see the pin going this is one of the aftershocks that probably in
the magnitude three and a half range the last aftershock that we had what four
forty three was a magnitude five point one which has been about the fourth one
that we have had that has been in the magnitude five range this one right here
if you note is going now it could be approaching a magnitude four can we
expect that these aftershocks will now diminish all the way to the next 72
hours the longer we go they will diminish if they follow the same pattern
that we've had a number of years and this is what we expect in we are hoping
that the larger aftershocks have occurred and within the next 24 to 48
hours we hope they will subside considerably but the aftershocks
themselves could last several months but they would be very small wavy person
that the National Earthquake Center in Golden Colorado thank you sir for
putting that in perspective for us certainly as we look through the city
now the lights beginning to twinkle this is the area that does have some
electricity we've got a lot of homes that do not have electricity all through
the area and they're going to be without it for a long time this picture is
breaking up becomes some of the problems of transmission that we have to face
we've got the science down now this is what happened but the bottom line is we
have to learn how to deal with these earthquakes that we're going to live in
the area where they take place more and more buildings more and more roads are
designed to be earthquake proof just as we mentioned the highways were designed
to deal with earthquakes does that mean that they're fail-safe obviously not and
the Los Angeles quake is proof of that Ken Kashiwaha reports from San Francisco
which is as you know another California City that's seen its share of these
quakes San Franciscans remember 1989 and the last major earthquake to hit a
metropolitan area it registered 7.1 on the Richter scale and like Los Angeles
destroyed homes and businesses and freeways total damage nearly six billion
dollars 63 people were killed many when the Cypress freeway collapsed in Oakland
that freeway still has not been replaced and other freeways are still being
repaired four years ago officials here in the San Francisco area didn't learn
anything they didn't already know structures and highways that were built
or rebuilt to earthquake standards survived those that had not been
strengthened for lack of political will or money did not there were few
surprises so in Los Angeles what withstood today's earthquake and what
didn't in this place that often looked more like a war zone than a city
buildings like this parking garage just collapsed low buildings department
stores garages and part of a hospital are least able to withstand the quake
when those buildings are brittle and made of brick or masonry in the suburb
of Northridge a corner of Bullock's department store was reduced to a pile of
concrete prefab buildings with weak connections don't do well in a strong
quake with an epicenter so close by the vast majority of buildings were not
damaged there was less damage to taller buildings in earthquakes taller
buildings with steel frames built to earthquake codes tend to sway when the
ground shakes but not collapse but this was a surprise an apartment building not
only built to earthquake standards but built on rollers to sway during a quake
suffered major structural damage Paul Johnston is a structural engineer the
system of rollers that allows the ground to move separate from the structure
which should result types of isolation systems are fairly new and in actual
practice they've been designing them for some years but they haven't had that
much experience yet so what does this tell you what it tells me is that we we
are going to learn from their from that experience as for the maze of freeways
that make up LA skyline there were major collapses especially on the overpasses
with long distances between supporting columns experts say highways can be
retrofitted but to do an entire city like Los Angeles is enormously expensive
and even that is no guarantee that overpasses will hold up in a strong
earthquake highway I5 was so close to the epicenter experts say the damage may
have been unavoidable but farther away on the Santa Monica freeway the damage
may have had a different cause bridge abutments like this one are often
shaken as the soil underneath shifts the weaker the soil the worse the danger
still while twisted wreckage now replaces much of the freeways other
highways and overpasses were not damaged and underground there are dangers water
mains and gas lines often run next to each other when an earthquake ruptures
one it can lead to an explosion of water followed by gas fires that roar through
the city all day experts say it could have been worse if the quake had been
stronger more gas lines could have ruptured the lesson of these last two
quakes in San Francisco and Los Angeles can a city ever really be earthquake
proof Los Angeles is upgrading its older structures but that takes time and money
in this state where 80% of the people live near an active fault line experts
say each earthquake reveals how much more needs to be learned most of the
damage that occurred in Oakland or San Francisco is some 50 miles or so away
here we're in the San Fernando Valley is very heavily built up area so just the
the much greater population of buildings is going to result in what seems to be a
lot more damage as the experience in San Francisco has shown Los Angeles
residents can look forward to weeks and months of disruption and inconvenience
as they try to get to work as they go about their daily lives freeways and
buildings will have to be repaired and retrofitted to earthquake standards the
cost will be enormous and it will take years to complete the cost there's a
very big problem we should also point out that many of the buildings damaged
in today's quake in Los Angeles are either under insured or they are not
covered by insurance at all President Clinton signing of a
declaration today assures that federal tax dollars and a lot of them will be
pouring into the region to offer assistance and state assembly speaker
Willie Brown up in Sacramento said today that lawmakers there should consider
raising the state sales tax a quarter percent deal with damage caused by the
Northridge earthquake it means that United States taxpayers and California
taxpayers will be paying for this damage for a long time to come we'll be coming
back in just one moment
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tonight on nightline death damage and terror it's the worst earthquake to hit
Los Angeles this century and nightline will be there to bring you the latest
among the worst doing without electricity of the large segments of
that story
once again for us on we have been talking about some of the damage and why
it was caused from the scientific issues surrounding us but we should not forget
the most significant aspect of all of this is that so many people's lives are
affected once again the death toll that we have at this point is that 27 people
have been killed it is a worry and and probably a likelihood that that death
toll will increase there are so many people out searching right now through
the level rubble to see if there are bodies there to see if there may be some
survivors who are still trapped it is indeed possible that there are still
survivors out there so much of the city is that without electricity right now as
many as a million homes and businesses so that part of the city has been
blocked out as a consequence mayor Richard Reardon has issued a dawn dust
to dawn curfew that is for those people who do not need to be out who do not
need to seek help they should remain in their homes LAPD the Los Angeles Police
Department and some 1500 National Guardsmen are out there to enforce this
curfew and to try to prevent looting of which we saw at least some this morning
sporadic looting we've heard so many many stories from people who lived
through this quake who suffered through it so many stories of people who lost
everything they had let us show you just one this is high and Lillian Shechtman
Los Angeles residents who lived in this same apartment for 17 years now they had
to leave that apartment earlier today they didn't they then returned with
their children and grandchildren we were there to go along with them to see what
had happened to their home take a look
my windows are
how
I know, let's get under there.
Grandma, let's get under there.
Grandma, get under there.
Absolutely devastating.
And what's more, we don't even know whether our building is going to remain intact,
whether or not we're going to be condemned and the building will have to come down.
Now remember, 17 years in this apartment for the Sheckmans, they had so much life there,
and we learned tonight that in fact the Sheckmans apartment has been condemned.
They'll have to leave there and leave that portion of their life behind.
And this story is repeated over and over and over again countless thousands of times.
Now we know that hundreds of thousands of people are also, as I told you, without power in Los Angeles,
so many people forced from their homes just as the Sheckmans are.
John McKenzie is in Glendale.
He found families who are learning for the first time in their lives what it's like to live in a shelter.
When did you first get the call to open up the shelter?
We got the call about 6 a.m. this morning to get the shelter ready to put on a standby status,
which we did and had personnel here about 7 o'clock in the morning.
And when did you open the doors?
At 7 15.
William Dutton is the regional director of the Red Cross in the Glendale area,
just north of Los Angeles and 20 miles from the Quakes epicenter.
Now how many people can you accommodate?
We can accommodate up to 300 people in the shelter and currently we have 308 or maximum capacity right now.
How did you make your way to the shelter?
We waited until the fire crew came and they went through and decided that some of the apartments were condemned
and they told us all to get out.
So we caravanned over here.
The fire department told you that the shelter existed and that's how you got in?
Yeah, to get out of there.
So what's going to happen to you now?
We don't know. We have to wait until the people come and tell us what to do and how to get our money.
We're a family zone Minnesota.
And where are we going to move to?
Hopefully we'll get our security philopods back and maybe some government relief or something, some help some way.
What are you providing for people who come?
We're providing food, shelter, a little bit later on if they need clothing.
As a result of the earthquake we'll provide that for them as well.
Medical attention, we've set up a first aid station, so whatever the needs are at this point.
Now how long can you continue providing?
We'll provide this at least for several days, but as long as the need still arises in this area we'll provide the assistance.
For you tonight, what's the biggest single problem?
Our biggest single problem is making sure that my mother is comfortable after hip surgery.
I mean that's our biggest problem.
And we're alive and hopefully everybody else is okay.
What are the problems you're anticipating now?
We don't know where to go.
We don't know where to go because when we can't go back to the house it's completely submerged in water.
About one foot of the pipe broke and the house is completely wrecked.
So if we don't find a hotel room we'll have a problem.
Where will you stay?
I don't know.
I don't have an alternative. I'd have to stay here.
How long? I don't know. I may go to Palisades. My son lives in Palisades.
We don't even have gas in the car.
We don't have gas in the car, but it's got to go down there now.
For many of the people here tonight, one worry is how secure are their homes from looters.
So the National Guard company based out of this armory has been deployed into the streets.
Few people here know how long it will be before they can return to what's left of their homes.
So how are you going to find where to come place to live? What do you do?
I don't know. They're going to tell us tonight and hopefully the disaster relief or whatever will.
Provide information on where to go.
Tomorrow night and the night after that, do you have any ideas?
I have no idea.
People who had homes, who had all their belongings, who had safe lives are instantly reduced to a cotton, a blanket, and just the clothes that they have on their backs.
That of course just one shelter that there are so many that are scattered throughout the city.
We're at the Red Cross shelter. Where this is is Peggy Hines, who is with the American Red Cross.
Miss Hines, how many other shelters are there throughout Los Angeles now?
Well at the last count, and obviously the number is rising steadily, we're at about 21 Red Cross shelters throughout the affected area.
What are you trying to do at this point?
We are trying to provide a comfort level.
The main goal of the Red Cross, as many people know, is to be that immediate aid following any disaster, large or small.
In this case, obviously it is a catastrophic disaster. We are opening shelters in the affected areas just as quickly as we can get there.
And in an earthquake, it's a little different than following many disasters in that we have to make sure the locations we have picked for Red Cross shelters are structurally sound.
So safety tests have to be made on all of these auditoriums and gyms.
And as soon as they are deemed safe, we are asking anyone in the public in the Los Angeles area who has suffered damage,
or maybe is just a little afraid and doesn't want to sleep in their own home tonight, to come to Red Cross Shelter.
The goal of the shelters is to provide, as you've heard in the interviews, a safe place to stay, a warm meal, some comfort and personal care from the Red Cross workers there.
I would think that for a lot of the people who are in the area, the problem is just knowing where to go for a Red Cross shelter.
Absolutely. That's a heroic task that we've been at all day just trying to update via the media over and over where these shelters are.
You have people who are scared, who maybe have a radio, maybe not.
You know, we teach earthquake preparedness around the clock, around the year in Southern California.
But if you don't know ahead of time to have that battery-operated radio and all those earthquake supplies,
you can quite literally be homeless and with no communication in a matter of seconds.
Do you have enough cots, enough food, enough blankets?
Well, the American Red Cross is a fabulous network across the country.
And we, knowing that we will have earthquakes, have thousands of such supplies on hand.
But the marvelous thing about being part of the Red Cross is that in warehouses across the country,
we have other Red Cross officials standing by and with one phone call we can get more supplies in if we need them.
So it's a fabulous network, as you know, mostly volunteers who are surrounding me in this room
and will be working around the clock for days and weeks bringing aid to these people.
How many people are there who are without homes at this point? Do you have an idea?
Counting the numbers of people homeless is very, very difficult.
We have some people who are choosing to sleep in parks rather than come into a shelter because of the shocks and things.
So we don't have a firm count on those people. They've chosen to stay outside.
We know in our shelters alone we have a couple thousand.
We also know we're opening shelters about every half hour I looked up and it looks like we've added another shelter.
So the only firm count we have this evening is those who have actually come in and checked into shelters.
What we will also begin to do is go out and do mass feeding over the next few days,
feeding off of our Red Cross emergency response vehicles,
those people who may be deciding to stay close to their home or in these park facilities and so forth
to make sure we're outreaching those people as well.
Just about 15 seconds left in the time. Elizabeth Dole, who is the director of the Red Cross, has arrived there in Los Angeles.
What will she be doing?
Yes, Elizabeth Dole has arrived this evening. She is being given a very quick briefing and orientation to the affected areas.
She will be going out first thing in the morning and assessing the damage.
And as I said, we're a very large community of Red Cross workers.
She is the head of that community, if you will.
So she will see what the needs are, help us convey to the communities and to the broad public across the country
how they can help, where the needs are, and what her assessment is of how the work is going out here.
Peggy Hines with the American Red Cross. We're sorry you're doing some very good work and we appreciate you talking with us tonight.
Thank you so much.
As you see, the American Red Cross is working very hard to make sure that people who do not have homes
at least have shelter through the evening. But there will continue to be problems all through the night,
through the next day, as the city of Los Angeles is trying to adjust.
In just a moment, Peter Jennings looks at the crisis.
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It is hard to get through the phone lines there. They're trying to use them for emergency services only.
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Peter Jennings in Los Angeles covering this all through the day.
And Peter, it is striking how people in Los Angeles have shown such courage in dealing with this.
It is a difficult problem and they are standing right up to it.
Yeah, we have been through this before for us. It is terrible that 29 people died today.
But in the 1989 San Francisco earthquake and in the 71 earthquake out here, many more people died, almost 60 in both cases.
One of the things that has always struck me about Californians in a situation like this
is they are divided into really three categories.
There are those who are just full of bravado and almost want to challenge nature, which we all know is thoroughly stupid.
There are those who are just resigned to the fact that California has to endure this over a long period of time.
And I will be at all surprised if tomorrow some people up here in the San Fernando Valley decide enough is enough
and pick up and pack their bags and decide to move to another part of the country.
Because since 1986 out here, the earthquake intensity has increased.
There have been seven major earthquakes out here since 1986.
And that is reason for people to be more concerned than they used to be.
Governor Pete Wilson in frustration said, I don't know how much Angelino's can expect to put up with.
They have had a very difficult year from riots to economic problems and now the earthquakes.
Well, we were talking about that at the beginning of the broadcast about the riots and the fires and now the earthquake.
I must say that as much as we like to think that we do on television
and the one thing we can bring people that other mediums can't is the pictures.
But the big element out here in a disaster like this is very often radio.
And tonight the sun has gone down here in the valley. People are wondering what to do tomorrow.
Everybody's listening to radio. We heard one local radio station refer to itself as a 50,000 watt therapy session.
And it's perfectly correct because it's through radio and local television that people will know what tomorrow holds.
It is important to point out, Peter, this remains an emergency situation in Los Angeles.
There are people still pouring into the hospitals.
There are so many who are without homes or without electricity or safe drinking water.
So we are looking at some difficult hours through the night and on into the next day.
Oh, I think more even more than that for us.
We've talked a lot of the broadcast about the tremendous wound that has been done to this state's freeway and highway system.
And what's even been worse, the people have had to get off those freeways and onto already heavily traveled roads.
So for the week or so from now, these Californians who come and go in their automobiles are going to wonder what to do.
And it's going to be an enormous problem, not to mention the aftershocks, which may go on for a week.
So they have a lot ahead of them, which is pretty heavy.
As for the highways, Peter, in San Francisco there are still some areas that haven't even been filled up.
So I guess, yes, there are some difficulties, you would say.
Indeed.
Peter Jennings in Los Angeles. Thank you, Peter.
And I should point out that on Nightline tonight, continuing coverage of the earthquake in Los Angeles and ABC News will through the evening also bring you further coverage of that and on into the night.
That is the latest news from ABC News.
Day one, I am Forrest Sawyer. Thank you.
And we wish you a very good evening.
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