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Happy Friday everybody. I'm Tom. The color cast is on the air now from CBS TV here in Los Angeles, California for October the 16th, 1998.
Our old friend David Milch, the co-creator of NYPD Blue is here tonight.
And the always popular and entertaining Dr. Ruth Westheimer who has a brand new book out which is not about sex, but is about being a grandparent.
And she will be with us as well tonight along with David Milch.
A little email to answer and then on with tonight's festivities.
And I want to get back to those headlines tonight. No, because there are some really cute ones coming up.
This is from Gord McDougall.
Dear Tom, you are the kind of all late night broadcaster that I like to have in the chair and you made it seem so magical back in the tomorrow show days.
I'm your con... in your conversation with Thomas Gibson on Thursday night, you once again referred to David Hartman's 1974-1975 series Lucas Tanner as Lucas Tanner MD.
Lucas Tanner was not a doctor but a school teacher.
A few years before Lucas Tanner, Robert Hartman played Dr. Paul Hunter on the new doctors from 1969 to 1973.
And once again you have totally confused the audience. Thank you for allowing me to clear that up. I feel better now.
Thank you very kindly.
Till the day I die it's going to be Lucas Tanner MD.
It's like the guy that came home at 6 o'clock in the morning and his wife says, where you been all night?
He says, well, he said I got home around 2 in the morning and I figured I didn't want to wake up you and the kids so I slept in the hammock out back.
She says, we don't have a hammock out back. He says, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. Lucas Tanner MD.
This is from Sandra. The Baltimore Police Department, famous for their superior canine unit, was somewhat taken aback by a recent incident.
Returning home from work, a lady had been shocked to find her house ransacked and emptied by burglars.
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I come home from work to find my house broken into. I call the police for help. What do they do? They send a blind policeman.
Now when we left the headlines last night, we got to the one where a child's stool is handy in the garden.
What I meant there was a headline in a garden column in the newspaper somewhere in these United States.
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I'll wait for quiet. Believe me, it won't be that long away.
A Soviet virgin lands short of goal again in a Soviet newspaper. Organ festival ends in smashing climax.
Enraged cow. These are headlines that appeared in papers around the world, the Soviet Union as well.
Enraged cow injures farmer with axe. Two sisters reunite after 18 years at the checkout counter.
Now the health and science headline never withhold herpes from a loved one.
In labor news, if strike isn't settled quickly, it may last for a while. In world news, war dims hope for peace.
Experts say something went wrong in jet crash. That would be true as well.
And the final headline. Blind woman gets new kidney from dad she hasn't seen in years.
I have a hell of a story, but I'm going to save it until the night we get back.
If pressed, I could... No, no, no. We have David Milch waiting who has much to talk about,
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with the landmark series Hill Street Blues and the current hit NYPD Blue.
Here tonight to talk about his successful show, his remarkable life.
It's always a pleasure to have David here at CBS, and thank you for joining us on this Friday night.
My pleasure.
Let me ask you here about the departure of Jimmy Smits and the arrival of Rick Schroeder,
and how difficult that was for you in terms of making that switch.
Jimmy Smits was a very, very popular man on that show.
Yeah, it's a big transition, and our thought was don't try to have the new guy fill Jimmy Smits shoes.
Or make him a Jimmy Smits look-alike, sound-alike.
Because Jimmy was such a beloved character, both as a person and in his role,
we were a lot more conflicted about this departure than we were about the departure of the guy who preceded Jimmy
and who shall remain nameless from my lips in my lifetime.
So he may only have two or three years left to go.
What we thought we would try to do was to incorporate the resistance that we knew an audience might feel
toward Rick's character and have that exhibited by the characters on the show.
So it's Sipwitz's conviction that he's about 14, and all of the things that an audience might feel will be,
I think, expressed and we believe neutralized in the process of the other characters.
What do we hear from the research? What do we hear from the focus groups?
You're going to make me make an obscene gesture with that question.
Whatever the research groups are saying, I'm not listening to.
Good for you. Good for you.
You know, they talked to me a long time ago about research and how important it is that we go out and find out what the viewers think.
And I'm sure that in the days of Jack Warner and Sam Goldwyn, they didn't go out and say,
who do you think should be a star? They said, this is Clark Gable and he is a star.
Isn't that kind of the way it works?
They said, we'll make the goyim like him. That was their position.
So we don't want the audience to have to compare a Jimmy Smith's look-alike, sound-alike.
We take a totally different departure and say, you know, here is the man and this is going to be a part of the show.
What we've always felt is that NYPD Blue is a kind of single organism
and that the relationships among the characters constitute a larger character.
And so the process of the incorporation of a new character, the adjustments that all the characters have to make,
the resistance that some of them exhibit, all of that is the material of storytelling.
And shame on us if we don't do it right.
Now let me ask you here about Brooklyn South.
Absolutely. I was hoping you would.
And I'm not going to belabor this point because I'm sure that you were disappointed, as was CBS,
as were those of us who watched that program and enjoyed that program and were captivated by it.
If the camera is tight on top, he is gesturing toward himself and numbering the audience,
which puts us up to 17 people.
A lot of people worked very hard there and it just didn't work.
No, it didn't. And I was not disappointed to see that show go off the air.
In a lot of ways it was doomed by the logistics of its production.
That was a show that was shot in the valley.
The kind of work that we do requires real hands-on participation by the writers and the producers.
And it was just too tough. I couldn't get over there.
And when I got there I was pissed off.
It just wasn't going to happen.
How are you? I mean, you've had a tough year.
Jimmy Smiths leaves the show and Brooklyn South doesn't work.
And you've probably written 45 or 50 scripts.
You've had a pretty tough year in terms of production.
How are you doing?
I'm doing better now that I'm not trying to write 44 scripts in nine months.
But how are you doing with the demons that we've talked about in the past?
Those little bugaboo things.
You know what they say. The demons are not with us tonight, which is a plus.
But as they say, they're doing push-ups in the parking lot.
They're staying fit, ready and in shape in case they have an opportunity to join back up.
But in the meantime, I'm much relieved not to be in their immediate company.
And to be a little less cavalier about that,
I think that part of the thing that at least makes me susceptible to that kind of abuse
is not being adequately humble, trying to do too much, trying to do more than is realistic.
And I suspect that may come from feeling that I have a lot to prove,
that I've got to keep fooling them, I've got to stay busy,
or else they're going to see the guy behind the little...
You know, in The Wizard of Oz, ignore that little man behind the curtain.
That's right.
Let me ask you about that.
I don't know you that well, but I've bumped into you in an art store and I talked to you here.
Did I borrow money?
No, you didn't. You are an immensely likable man.
Thank you.
You're very easy to like. You're a nice guy.
Thanks.
And you're a hardworking guy and you're a talented guy.
Where do you get this feeling that you have to prove yourself?
Where do you get this feeling that you're fooling us?
You're not fooling us. You have produced great quality on television and in other areas of life.
Thank you.
I think that everyone has a childhood and...
I'm not without wanting, as you say, to belabor the point.
I suspect that one of the sources of my gifts, which are I have a pretty good ear,
I notice how people behave, and that came from being highly trained as a child.
Because if you didn't know how people were going to behave, oftentimes you could...
It was a good thing.
You were very attentive to how people behaved.
You became vigilant and alert.
One of the things that happens under those circumstances...
And you became, forgive my interruption, vigilant and alert because if you weren't...
Well, it was just a good thing to be.
You never go wrong.
Otherwise you might get hurt.
Well, I don't want to say physically hurt, but it was just because that wasn't the case.
But anyway, what doesn't develop if you're spending a lot of time looking out
and figuring out how to adjust to other people's expectations,
you don't really get a sense of yourself as existing separate from the satisfaction
of other people's expectations.
So, you know, and that can get uncomfortable pretty fast,
which then maybe you may medicate that, you know, you may be...
Medication. Medication.
There we are. Medication.
Let me take a fast break.
We're chatting with David Milch, one of the co-creators of NYPD Blue.
Back with David and you on the toll free after this short break.
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Before I leave, the substance of your demons.
And this would be substance, which you've used on occasion.
We've talked about this before. It's no secret.
Do you have the feeling that work is easier if you use substance?
You know, it isn't.
And it's the same, actually.
But the qualities are different.
The work I'm doing now, I could never have done using.
Simply because there are subjects that I feel permission to deal with.
That I didn't have. You know, you're kind of in emotional exile when you're using.
There are certain things that you feel impious about portraying.
Like happiness, for example.
Certain aspects of spirituality, unless you're sort of portraying them with your nose pressed up against some invisible glass barrier.
Portraying a character in that circumstance.
So there's a lot more stories that I'm able to tell.
I think I told the stories about people with their noses up against a glass barrier, persuasively.
But that gets a little old.
And are there places that you routinely stay away from because they are places that would lead you into temptation?
Yes, I have a list.
I have a substantial list of those places.
Not just places, you know.
People, things.
I find most days that end in Y, a trial, for example.
Which?
Days that end in Y.
Oh, right.
Are always a challenge.
A little slow on the update. Forgive me.
And how about casinos?
Yeah, I can't do that.
And it's very, I've mourned that, peculiarly, you know, I think more than other things that I've given up.
Because it was so much associated with my dad.
The good doctor.
Yeah, and he used to take me to...
I have horses this Sunday, Tom, running for a million dollars in purses.
And I ain't going.
And I ain't gonna listen.
Really?
And on the one hand, I know that that's the right thing to do because it puts you in a slippery place and it gets you agitated and so on.
On the other, it's a real drag.
But there you have it.
And if you went there, what might happen that you wouldn't want to happen?
Well, it's what might happen next is what I wouldn't want to happen.
Because once you're there, now you lose.
Well, now you gotta do something about that.
That's exactly right.
Either in the next race or a little beverage or something to take the edge off.
If you win, you don't want to be a bad sport.
Right.
So a little beverage, a little something to take the edge off.
Unless the electricity fails and they don't run the race, you really got no shot, you know, about the next step.
So better to stay away.
And do you have any horses that are standing stub?
Do you have any stallions?
I do.
I had Gilded Time, who is the best horse that I ever owned and who is a champion in America,
is now the most successful stallion of his year to such an extent that he's,
the breeding season in North America is organized so that the mares deliver as close to the first of the year as possible.
And I know you're fascinated by the particulars of this.
Yes, I am.
Because all horses have a birthday January 1st.
So you want them born as close, and I won't explain anymore.
Okay, you don't have to.
But now...
But I've always had a fascination for the gestation period of the horse.
Oh, yes.
Well, I have documents on the subject that I can provide you afterwards.
But now, because he's so successful, the Southern Hemisphere mares are also being bred to him.
So there's a whole second breeding season, and I get these elaborate thank you notes from him.
From the stallion, right.
Well, you know, just pawings in the dirt.
Yeah.
I said, Dave, never thought I'd be this happy.
I didn't realize June could be as good a month.
Yeah, right.
Here's Chad on the toll free in Charlottesville, Virginia.
Hi, Chad, and welcome to CBS. Hello.
Thanks a lot.
You're welcome.
First, I want to say it's an honor to finally get to talk to you.
Thank you.
I'm a youngster than most of your fans, probably.
How old are you, Chad?
I'm 23.
That's the weight of Tom's heart, what you're saying right now.
I started watching you back on that other station about seven years ago.
Thank you, sir, and please say hello to David Milch, my friend here.
Hi, how are you doing, Mr. Milch?
Hi, Chad.
Question I had for you tonight is what kind of feedback do you get from police officers about your shows,
especially now that Brooklyn South's been canceled?
Yeah, that's a source of great pride to us that police officers across the country,
but in particular in New York, have really taken the show to their hearts
and are kind of fiercely proud of it.
And Bill Clark, my colleague who was a homicide detective for so many years in New York City,
is largely responsible for the verisimilitude of the show.
And even as we speak, there are four detectives out from New York City
spending the weekend with Bill, and I get a chance to talk to them,
and that's how we try to keep the show fresh.
Great. I also want to say I love all your shows,
but I especially loved the first couple seasons, NYPD Blue with David Caruso.
It was some of the best television I've ever seen, just intense every episode.
The name slipped out there, didn't it?
Happily, we've been able to maintain our close personal relationship,
even as our professional paths have diverged.
Chad, I'm glad you called, and thank you for watching.
Thanks a lot.
All right, goodbye now.
Bye.
Let me ask you here about your days at college.
Was Clinton at school when you were there?
You know, I'm told that we were in law school together,
but I was so infrequently lucid during that period of time.
You inhaled, in other words, huh?
I...
Not only inhaled.
And the other thing was, in those days,
they were experimenting with sending these mass mailings of credit cards
to everyone who was a college graduate, which I think I helped them to perceive
could be a tremendous commercial mistake,
because it was golf that sent me a credit card,
and you could use your golf credit cards to stay at the Holiday Inn.
And I couldn't...
When I would get on the grounds of the law school,
I would get a very, very bad reaction.
So I was living at the Holiday Inn on my golf credit card,
and I didn't really have that much to do with the law school until I was expelled,
at which point I didn't have anything to do with the law school.
That's right.
So I'm told that President Clinton was there, obviously Hillary was there,
and Clarence Thomas was also there at that time.
But that's as much as I'm prepared to tell you about them.
I understand that, but in your view,
having written many stories about people,
what do the President...
And some about dogs.
And some about dogs.
What do the President's actions say about him?
I mean, you're a man who studies character.
Well, they say he might need another hobby.
There he is.
Obviously, I'm not competent to...
Your next guest can probably be much better on this subject.
I will, however, say that I actually have met President Clinton once,
and I shook hands with him, and I felt as if I'd known him forever.
Really?
Now, it may just be that he's a very charismatic politician,
but I did feel sort of like a kindred spirit,
and we have kind of radar for each other.
People who are prone to be obsessive and compulsive in their behavior.
And, you know, there's a kind of haunted look in his eyes
right underneath this tremendous charm and desire to please.
And I suspect that someone who is as good as he is at what he does,
who may not feel as good about himself as he would like to,
might feel drawn to some forms of release of tension at the end of the day
to sort of reconcile those contradictions.
In his case, not a beverage.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. And God bless him.
We will continue with David Milch.
Still ahead, we have Dr. Ruth Westheimer.
We have you on the toll free.
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Hi, Gary, you're on the air. Hello.
How you doing, David?
Okay, thanks. Hope you are.
Love your show?
Thank you.
Hope you stay on forever.
Not forever.
Well, as long as you want.
David, my question is this.
I've seen you on other programs, of course,
and despite all the tribulations and the trials that you've gone through,
how do you keep going back to that well
and coming up with the brilliance and the genius and the confidence
that it takes to do what you do so well?
Well, thanks a lot.
You know, I would like to sort of disabuse Tom's considerable audience
of the idea that, you know, my life is full of trials and tribulations.
My life is a privilege and a pleasure, you know.
My wife Rita and I have three beautiful children,
and I'm able to do the work that I love.
And so, having said that, that I'm a very grateful person, the...
What you just said, your life is not a living hell.
No. No.
But life is very interesting as well.
And there's just so many different ways to dramatize the struggle
and the glory and the complexity of our experience.
Is there something going on in your mind all the time
about life and its complexities and situations
and possible stories and characters?
Yeah. Well, if there's something going on in your mind about life
and its complexities, people are falling asleep all over America.
But if there are details and specific stories, you know,
as they say, God is in the details.
And that is always going on.
And just driving to work, I see so many different things
that are eligible to be made into stories.
People in their cars, those that I don't cut off
and get into fistfights with, I'm able to imagine, you know,
what their lives are like.
So there's plenty to do.
And how do you turn that off?
You don't.
Can you turn that off?
No. That's one... You know, that just sort of comes with the territory.
And when you go home tonight, how do you relax or try to relax?
I sort of say my prayers.
I mean, I think about the things that I have to be grateful for.
And one of the things you try to do in sobriety is, you know,
turn it over to the chief.
You know, let him... I tried running the world for a long time.
And I was bad at it.
You know, there's some...
One of the things that they say in recovery programs is,
I row and I let my higher power steer.
If I try to steer, he'll let me, but he will never row.
And so, you know, I tried steering, but I'm happily rowing.
Very good, sir.
Gary, I'm glad you called, and thanks for watching.
Thanks, Gary.
You're welcome, and I hope you do well.
Bless you back, Gary. Thanks a million.
Bye-bye.
It is always a pleasure, David M.
Thank you for coming on and continued success to you
and my love to your family.
And may I tell you, if we don't see each other again professionally,
how grateful I am for the opportunity you gave me
and for all the pleasure you gave me as a viewer.
Thank you, sir. Thank you very much.
We'll continue with Dr. Ruth right after this short timeout.
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Dr. Ruth Westheimer pairs the incongruous roles of expert on sex and grandmother and manages to pull it off very well.
Her newest book provides advice for grandparents, a group that will expand during the next century, and whose value is, in her words, immeasurable.
The book is called Grant Parenthood, and it's a pleasure to welcome Dr. Ruth to our program.
You know, as I said to you, when I worked in New York a long time ago, I remember when you first came on the radio, one night a week, Sunday nights on the FM radio station.
Were you shocked when you heard me first talk?
Not at all. Not at all. I'm glad to be glad.
In fact, I said, I'm glad that this is on the air because people need to know this information.
And you know, in those days, I talked about contraception, and these were the days where it wasn't even known about AIDS.
That's right.
Nobody knew about AIDS.
But I did say that people have to be sexually literate because we have the information.
And look what has happened. It did work.
There is right now less unintended pregnancies, still too many.
More people just know a little bit more how to please each other. So I'm very pleased.
Let me ask you about grandparenting. There are a lot of people that I've known in my life that when they become a grandparent, they say, I'm too young to be a grandparent.
I don't want to be a grandparent.
I hope you are not one of those.
No, no. I was thrilled to be a grandparent.
Me too. When this grandparent...
I was a grandparent when I was 54 years old. I was delighted.
And my grandson, I just turned 70. My grandson is eight.
I couldn't wait to have that grandson. And now he has a sister, two and a half.
And my son is a little nine months old.
And I think those people who kind of say, I'm too young.
It's a pity. It's a pity because they take away the pleasure from themselves.
And they take away from that pleasure of having a relationship with that grandchild.
Because that's not a good thought. They should say, fortunately, I'm alive.
And here is that pleasure that I can have of seeing that next generation.
What have you learned from having grandchildren that you didn't know from having children?
Tom, the first thing I've learned is that I have to keep my mouth shut.
Exactly right.
With my children, I could scream sometimes and I could discipline.
And there are many things that I could do. With grandchildren, you have to be very careful.
You have to know these are not your children. These are your children's children.
You can spoil, but you have to check with your children.
Don't call at dinner time. You know, with my children, I could call anytime.
I could do many things. Here, there is another element.
And it's very important to be in a good relationship with your children, with your daughter-in-law or son-in-law.
What is it in your case?
It would be a son-in-law and a daughter.
All right. So it's very important to show the delight. But it's also very nice.
I don't have to discipline. I don't have to worry about what they eat.
All I can do is the pleasure.
And when they begin to act up, I say to my daughter, take her home.
I don't say it like this. I'm a little bit more delicate.
I say, you know, in this house, you cannot do this.
And whatever they do in their house, but I'm very fortunate.
I see my grandchildren every single week.
And so I'm really fortunate. They live in New York and I do see them and I can spoil them.
And it's nice to be a doctor.
How do you spoil them? What do you do?
Come here. I take them to FAO Schwartz.
Oh, the toy shop.
I can buy Lego.
But also I'm very pleased because my grandson, for example,
a certain amount of his allowance, which his parents give him, not me,
he already puts it away for children who don't have as much as he has.
So there are so many issues that are just a pleasure.
I love to go alone with him. I took him to Disney World.
When I go to the park, I want to be alone with that little two and a half year old.
I like that little bit of intimacy.
But like you said, it's very nice to know when they have to eat.
Goodbye.
Goodbye. Yeah. And did you did you not take your grandchildren overseas?
Didn't you not have a trip to Jerusalem?
We certainly did. Oh, my gosh.
I'm already worried when I look at that look on you that who what else do you know about me?
We went to Israel. We went to Jerusalem and I was very fortunate.
It's nice to be Dr. Ruth. They put me up at the King David in a suite.
I had a bathroom that's as big as your studio.
So I told my children who were in another apartment, I said, come and take a bath here.
And that little grandson said, oh, me. That's how we call it.
It's like grandma. He said, I would love you even if you were not Dr. Ruth.
I love it. They know who grandma is.
I love the other day.
My let my children go to Paris and I slept over my grandchildren's house and homework had to be done.
And I'm sitting there and Tom, I'm not exactly stupid, right?
But I couldn't understand one word of that math homework.
That's some new math. I didn't understand the terminology.
I said to my grandson, I said, I'm terribly embarrassed.
He I'm supposed to know so many things. I don't understand.
Who could we call? And he wanted to protect me.
He didn't want me to be embarrassed.
So he said, oh, me, how many countries did you visit?
Because he knew I would come up with like 25, 30 so that it would make me feel good.
That's what I like in that relationship.
And talk to me here about grandparents as we go into the next century.
They're going to be more and more people, older people who have grandchildren.
This would be an important segment of our society.
You and I will be part 90 million of us are going to be grandparents in the year 2004.
All of those baby boomers. And let's not ship them to Florida.
Let's make sure that we keep that relationship going and that we use them.
Last night, I was at a benefit here in Los Angeles of Starblight.
And one of the things that I said at that benefit is use grandparents to visit sick children.
Doesn't have to be your own grandchildren because grandparents have time.
I did a documentary in the former Soviet Union to show the importance of grandparents.
It'll be on PBS at the end of this year, just so that we have that talk.
Now, I'm still going to talk about sex.
But I say in the book, if you thought in the grandparent book that this is a book for tips for older people,
I hope you kept your receipt.
But I, from time to time, take a little time out, I did one book for children about, and you will get that.
It's called Dr. Ruth Talks to Kids about grandparents, about that special relationship.
Are you going to teach your grandchildren about sex?
No. Good question, Tom. That's my children's job.
That's their job. What you hear in the booth is Dr. Ruth gave me her pen, and I'm clicking it, and you hear that in the mind.
They wonder what the noise is in the booth. It's just folks at home, it's nothing critical. It's perfectly off.
And by the way, as you watch the show tonight, may I remind you that there's nothing wrong with your set.
We'll be right back after this short time out.
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We're back with Dr. Ruth whose newest book is called Grand Parenthood.
Let me ask you here about some things that have happened in the news that are in your department. Viagra.
What did we think was going to happen when they came out with Viagra?
Tom, if they had prepared the world better, if they had said everybody has to go.
It's a fantastic from a pharmacological point of view. Wonderful invention.
If they had said everybody has to check in case you are on any medication not to take it.
But I'll tell you something else. It's late at night so I can speak.
Yes you can. Yes you can.
Here he takes it. Here he has an erection from the floor to the ceiling.
He comes home. He says to her, hop into bed.
Last night he did not do the dishes.
He never brought her flowers I don't know for the last three weeks.
He didn't even talk to her. He watched the baseball game.
What is she going to say? Is she going to go to bed?
Of course she's not. Of course not.
She's going to say absolutely not a lot of.
Now he wasted ten dollars.
Now he's standing there with this thing.
And a lot of problems are going to happen.
Now I'm not saying that it's not a wonderful one.
But what you are saying is there's more to a relationship than physical equipment.
You have to prepare people for that.
You have to say there has to be a relationship.
There has to be something looking into each other's eyes.
And then if that medication is needed I have nothing against that.
But there's not enough education and you know what's happening right now?
They already realized that now that it's legal there's less offers.
For example in Switzerland as long as it was illegal they sold it.
Forbidden fruit right.
And the next day when it became legal it wasn't so interesting anymore.
So we have to do some more education about it.
That has something to do with the things that I talk about in terms of sexual literacy.
That relationship sex is between your ears.
If that pill is needed and the doctor says it's okay make sure that you take your wife out for dinner before you take that pill.
Right in other words if all you do is take the pill and there's no dinner and no flowers and no romance.
The pill is not going to do a thing.
No the contrary.
It's going to be very very damaging to the relationship.
You know I had a cute one the other night if I don't mind saying so myself.
Sex is a lot like the game of bridge.
You know the bridge game?
Yes.
If you don't have a good partner you better have a good hand.
I never heard that.
That's pretty good.
I like that.
Now you went on a cruise where you gave lectures or you gave speeches.
How did that go?
What do people ask you when you're on the boat?
I went on the love boat and there were 900 couples renewing their vows.
Which I believe is something good to do.
Leave your children, leave your worries, leave everything at home.
Go out and say to each other how glad you are that the two of you are together.
So there were 900 couples.
I've got one minute now it's all good go ahead.
There was the captain of the boat.
There was a Protestant minister.
There was the captain of the television series.
They gave me a microphone.
I said to these 900 couples, it was 9 o'clock in the morning.
I said right after the ceremony I want all of you to go back to your cabins and try a new position.
When I said that the captain took the microphone out of my hand.
He said not all at the same time.
He was worried that if they would all do it at the same time you know what could happen to the boat.
But the idea is that sex has to be taught and has to be really experienced with a lot of humor.
No question about that.
Thank you for joining us Dr. Ruth.
It's always a joy to see you Dr. Ruth Westheimer.
Her newest book is called Grand Parenthood.
If you're on the verge of that or you're immersed in that you will find this very, very entertaining.
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