Look at this, it's a millimeter.
Royal Baby, the Duchess of York gave birth to a 6 pound, 12 pound baby girl in London
Hospital.
Now come on, come on, that's a headline.
Why are you applauding that?
You didn't want to know that?
Oh cut it out.
That's got to be a headline.
It was screaming banners on every other newspaper.
What is this independent coming along?
I'm sorry, hand her the microphone here.
Just hand it to the gentleman.
No, behind you.
We would like to know how Fergie ever became able to marry one of our royal family when
it is a well known fact that she cohabitated and lived with men and it is a possibility
that she will carry on the royal lineage and we don't think, I mean Princess Diana, she
was a virgin but Fergie was not.
Fergie was not.
Now look at this straight.
In other words you can't marry a royal if you're not a virgin?
No, no.
That is what I mean.
If you're going to carry on our royalty you should be a virgin.
You should be.
Now how are we going to prove that?
Well you did because everyone knew that Princess Diana was a virgin and Fergie is not.
So there are ways of finding out.
Yes, there are ways of finding out.
But don't you see there's no way.
Now what?
What?
You want to stand free?
Help me out here.
I'm afraid there are no more virgins over 14 in England anymore.
Surely the whole point of any story is to keep it in some sort of perspective.
The whole point of butling Major Ronald Ferguson is he's in the public eye.
Major Ronald Ferguson, you're talking about the message of York's father.
Yes.
He's in the public eye to an extent and he should be there to be shot at a certain view.
I mean people like politicians are we supposed to hide every bad thing they do because they're
in the public eye and it might embarrass them?
I mean people like Stonehouse, Profumo, they are there to be shot at.
It's a question of in what perspective you shoot at them and how far down the level you
go.
Yes, yes ma'am.
Look down please.
Take this please.
In defense of all the women that have been mentioned here today, it's not for anyone
to cast moral judgments on anyone else.
And in defense of the Duchess of York, she's a lovely person and I think it was common
knowledge she was having an affair with Paddy McMalley for many years.
Who?
The Duchess of York.
But.
Was that reported in the paper?
Yes, it was these gentlemen that bought it all and dragged it all out.
So, is that a good thing?
You know, she doesn't have to be.
Well, why not?
She was very happy in her relationship and why shouldn't she marry the Prince?
Is Prince Andrew a virgin?
Ask who's that?
You ask is Prince Andrew a virgin?
Yeah.
Why does Fergie have to be a virgin if Andrew doesn't?
I think the press in this country are far too intrusive and in this country now we have
trial by press, not by jury.
I'd like to say to Anne Diamond, good luck to you if you do end up on your own with the
children and perhaps if you do get hard up, the press will pay you for a true story.
Incidentally Anne, do you, have you set a date?
No, I haven't even told him yet.
It's just a question of who gets to infuse me with them.
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Mr. Whittam Smith, you have been very patient.
You wanted to say what, sir?
I must say that I worry very much about the extent of coverage of the Royal Family because
I think it's on the way to destroying them.
I think that we're turning them into our soap opera.
The Crown will live forever.
The newspapers can't possibly.
No, no, no, no.
I say this as a royalist, not a Republican.
The voracious appetite for news about the Royal Family is bit by bit turning them into
some other sort of people.
It's so voracious it will destroy them.
I think.
Now this takes a little bit of vanity to drop out of the sky in another country and presume
to preach to Fleet Street.
I think the Royal Family benefits from this.
And to suggest that the press could destroy the Royal Family if you'll just pardon this
observation I think exaggerates the power of the press.
One other thing.
I remember seeing a photographer, one of you, maybe it's one of you fellows on American
television, and the interviewer was saying, why do you bother this woman, Princess Diana,
like this?
Why do you, every day, you've already got her, you took her photograph yesterday, you
took her today, why do you bother her all the time, why are you doing this?
And the guy looked at him and he said, you can't take enough pictures of this woman.
And I thought to myself, I agree.
I agree.
And I tell you, when you run a picture on page one, you automatically, my paper, The
Daily Mirror, you'll sell another 75,000 copies like that.
Absolutely.
What does the nervous press actually do to the members of the Royal Family?
It turns some of them into nervous wrecks.
Who makes up the others?
I won't say who, but I think most of us.
Who's a nervous wreck?
They look pretty happy to me.
I think you're saying Princess Diana's a nervous wreck, one minute to the next.
She's anorexic.
She was.
Oh yeah, the Queen's been pregnant at least eight times since the second.
No, no, wait a minute.
I'm sorry.
I've been pregnant eight times since the second.
No, no, wait a minute.
That's not true.
That's not true actually.
Incidentally, is everything right between Charles and Princess Diana?
I think so, yeah.
I think nothing.
They're really...
Was it ever not so right?
I was calling to the Sunday Times yesterday, which Mr. Holden, who's written two biographies
now entirely for money of Prince Charles, without having ever spoken to him, picked
up a story from the Sunday Telegraph, which in itself was wrong, put it in his book, and
the Sunday Times yesterday led their front page on this ridiculous story, saying he's
going to be made governor of Hong Kong and become Prince Regent, as is fact.
Unfortunately, even papers like the Sunday Times are driving the royal family crazy.
Andreas is absolutely right.
There was a time 30 years ago when the royal family needed to be publicised.
We needed to know what happened with the Queen, with Charles, with Prince Philip.
We don't need any longer.
And if all these... the pressures get to them, we all know that Prince Charles is not a happy
man.
We know that the marriage with Diana has not been well because of all this.
I think it's been okay.
Thank you, Arthur.
Is Charles not a happy man?
I mean, I see him a lot more than you do, Nigel, and they look pretty happy to me.
Well, when I... when I had breakfast with him this morning, Arthur...
Well, he's in Scotland, though, I think.
You know, that... are you... is that a joke or is it true?
No, what I'm saying is that... that's a joke.
You wouldn't know it.
But aren't you travelling now with a member of the royal family this evening?
I'm going off to Hong Kong and so, by extraordinary coincidence, is Princess Anne, but that's neither
here nor there.
Well, excuse me.
Holy cow!
Let me get this young woman out here.
I'd just like to know who actually says that we are interested in the royal family, because
I'm certainly not, and I'm sure a lot of people are.
Yes.
Please, please, please.
My name's Sue Diamond.
I'm not any relation to Anne, but it would be interesting to see if these gentlemen report
accurately the exclusive on Anne Diamond today.
Yes.
Accurately, yes.
I... I... I... I...
Yes.
Sorry.
Miss Stark, perhaps you'd want to tell our audience that you're joining the convent this
afternoon or something.
You've got no story for us at all.
I would like to say something to endorse what Mr. Andreas Witton-Smith said...
Please do.
...regarding the son... well, in particular, the Queen sued the son newspaper some time
ago and she won her case.
Now, that's set a precedent.
It's the first time in the history of the British monarchy that the Queen actually sued
a newspaper, and the newspaper's true to form, rather, that she was suing a member of her
household staff.
In fact, she sued the son newspaper and won her case.
Yes.
I think... I think the press...
A member of the royal family to be able to do that?
Do you want a member of parliament to be able to do that?
They've never been able... they've never done it before and it's set a precedent...
How do you catch the crooks if the laws allow the public servants to scare the press?
Is that a...
Well, actually, they didn't sue.
All they did was granted a court injunction and we gave the Queen some money for charity.
But...
But it never got to court and I might tell you, most of it already appeared in the payback.
My question was three hours ago.
Well, we're glad we got you on anyway.
Yes, ma'am.
Phil, Phil, if you're libeled in this country, there's only two things you can do.
One is shrug your shoulders and let them libel you and the other one is sue.
And you can't get legal aid in this country to sue for defamation.
You have to afford it yourself and it costs a fortune.
Why should you?
That's my question.
The gentleman wants to know why you should...
I think Anne, the question...
Well, I don't know.
We don't have the time really to...
If you're libeled, you need to beat 100,000 pounds to seek your libel action against the
newspaper.
And that's a lot of money.
Yeah.
If the press were responsible, you wouldn't need to sue them.
Yes.
We've been...
We've been what?
We've been discussing sort of like the power of the press in terms of royalty and personal
relationships.
But what about the political power of the press in terms of racist attitudes, for instance,
the Sun, which briefly touched on sexism as well?
I think that needs to be addressed.
Sir, I don't understand.
I just want to say that I don't understand why everybody really cares about the royal
family in this country.
I'm from New York and when they showed Fergie having the baby, holding it out the window
and hundreds of thousands of people watching, clapping at the window, it's a joke in the
United States.
Why do people care?
I didn't say to hang out of any window.
Well, it's as though she was waving or something.
When she was waving, yeah.
My good man, the crown rests at the center of the soul of this country.
I'll only take a moment.
But the royal family...
But for you to stand up like somebody from Yankee Stadium saying, I don't know what...
Wait a minute.
You come very close to confirming what ought to...
Have you ever heard of the ugly American?
I'm over here working in this country on an exchange program and I see how much tax is
taken out of everybody's paycheck, about 35%.
And then I see Princess Di in a designer ski suit and she's just laughing, I'll take my
picture as much as you want.
I'm getting all your tax money in my pocket.
And we'll be back to the Palladium in London in just a moment.
Well I have time, sadly, only time to thank you, this audience especially.
You have...I'll tell you, you put the lie to all the rumors.
They told me you would just sit there.
They'll never be able to accuse you of that.
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and surrounding area.
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