Connecticut I'm surprised at you. They're saying a million bucks. A million dollars?
If you've seen two you've seen them all. Now listen look at this Jessica huh? Look at this.
Well I'll tell you Jessica I don't know whether this is any fun for you or not.
Here's this morning's post as we speak. Her folks are mad and Newsday wants you to know
she's got a million slams for Playboy. Well Jessica I read the Playboy piece and this
sounds as grim as it would get for anybody any female 20 years old. It's a very very
distracting and detailed and sordid picture of two people who according to your account
force themselves on you. I mean if this is certainly as close to rape as anything I ever
read in literature I don't know if I don't think you're calling it that. You had your
wine. I asked you to have a glass of wine. You were the little church secretary who cleaned
the toilets you know from Long Island and loved your little brother. We're very sheltered
socially. You claim to be a virgin. Now you're in the company of Jim Baker who you've seen
on television and not only do both of them are both of them intimate with you in many
ways. You talk about forced oral sex in this interview with Playboy. Then they go on television
that afternoon on their telethon and say what a great rest they had the two of them. You
feel sick and your back is scratched and you're lying there in your room robe you get in the
other twin bed or queen size bed because this one's all messed up. When Fletcher comes in
and he leaves and a third guy comes in you're telling Playboy readers he sees that you're
in not such good shape and he makes no attempt to have you as it might be put. And then you
had seven years of a quiet life and suddenly the PTL empire collapses. Jerry Falwell's
in it now and you're on the cover of everybody's magazine and here comes the church secretary
and you're naked. Why did you do this. Why are you naked in this magazine. I had a choice
and I decided to do it for me. It became a time where I felt that there was no way I
was going to live for these people anymore. There was no way I was ever going to look
in the mirror and see John Fletcher or Jim Baker ever again. I wanted to look in the
mirror and I wanted to see Jessica Hahn and I did it strictly for me. I don't pretend
to be the first to make this point. Jim Baker is able to say see here's the little girl
the innocent little girl who claims that I this and I that now we know the truth. Well
if you read a little further than I could say see what about what Jim Baker preaches.
You know what about throwing a woman on the floor and doing what he did to a woman. You
know what he did made me feel dirty. What I did there did not make me feel dirty. I
feel right about what happened. I about the pictures I chose to do the pictures. That
was a choice that I was given. You really appear to have a lot of rage. You said if
he brought you a flower he never even said he liked you. I think you're claiming here
he never touched you in any endearing way. Is that right? I don't believe Jim Baker
knows what love is. I really don't. I believe if he I had said in the story if he had gone
down stairs and came up with a flower and said Jessica I messed up I don't know what
happened. I really don't know what happened. I'm sorry. He might still have PTL. I wanted
you know when you give somebody a flower that says this person can smell that flower they
can see that flower they can feel that flower. That represents that whoever you're giving
that to is human. I was not human in Jim Baker's eyes and I was not treated as human. You know
at this moment here from the LA Times you get two interviewers here. You know at this
moment I just want to say he says to you in this interview I don't see how this can run
with the pictures you want to do. Both he and then and then Golson says Bob's not on
salary from Playboy. I am. This is the guy from Playboy. Did he actually say this? Here
we have a guy from Playboy saying we'll run the story. Can you imagine a guy from Playboy
saying maybe we better not show the picture. But that's the truth. Barry Golson who is
the executive editor said this to me and both he and Bob said Jessica how are you going
to run this story with pictures. And I said look I need to do this. I really do. It comes
to a place where I'd like people to see me as what God created me to be. If they're going
to look at me the way the press created me to be. A woman in tight jeans. A woman on
the floor. This woman wears tight jeans. She's done this. She's done that. Well let them
look at me my way. You know the way God created me. What God created is good and beautiful.
He's so perverted with his own eyes. You know I don't see the human body as being anything
bad. Right. Right. Jessica it is getting rough however. And this is not so funny. A grand
jury is investigating your lifestyle and the lifestyle of profero I think is how it's pronounced.
The reverend who heads the church to which you were of which you are a member. Now when
they come after me I want a presumption of innocence just as you're entitled to have
and I give you that. But you'll understand my raising this point. A grand jury in all
of it is investigating the nature of your lifestyle in its in connection with income
taxes. So now we've got a grand jury who's wondering aloud anyway an investigation wondering
aloud whether you've paid income taxes. Now we are in print with the suggestion that you
are proferos lover and it gets worse. Testifying at this grand jury on the income tax are two
males who claim to have been your boyfriends over the past recent months. No necessarily
no scandal there. These are single males. But one of them is saying you weren't a virgin
at the time this happened. I'm almost finished. Here's my point. I'll give you a chance because
I know this is real complicated. In the middle of all this you've got your parents your mother
is saying my god if her stepfather has a heart attack over these pictures I'm going to kill
her. And now comes guys who claim to have been guests in your apartment and you're you
know that you've been to Jersey and you've gambled and that you have a lot of nice clothes.
I'm not saying I know what's true. I am saying that I have to wonder out loud whether you've
made the best choices for yourself given that given the situation which you found yourself.
When I did playboy I was well aware that I was going to become an open book. As far as
this story in the scandal sheet I won't even I won't even dignify by commenting on that.
That is not true. OK. I'll get I will say that is not true. I've noticed since this has happened
that people that when I when I was on the brink of suicide no one no one cared no one
wanted to know about it. But when things are going my way all of a sudden everybody is
coming out of the woodwork. Everybody wants to. I shake your hand and I'm sleeping with
you. I you know I bring you a glass of water and I'm sleeping with you. I am tired of it.
And I will say that this is the very reason that I'm here today and that I'm doing what
I'm doing that I did what I did in playboy is because I believe in myself. God keeps
the records. I know what happened. People are coming from all over the country. Four
corners saying I know Jessica Hahn. I slept with her or I saw her do that. So what. That's
not true. What I will say is that there there with my mom I love her and she loves me. And
in March when this happened you have to remember she did not know about this in 1980. I kept
it from her for this reason. I did not want her hurt. I did not want her exposed to this
and I tried to protect her. This is too much for her. It overwhelms her and it hurts her.
She can't handle it. It's there's so much happening and I love my I love my little brother
with all my heart and I would do nothing to hurt him. But I the bottom line is and the
press it's funny they don't report this part. I said this before but they only report I'm
going to kill her. Bottom line is I love my mother and she loves me and I don't care what
anybody says. They can't tell me my relationship with my mother. OK. As far as anything else
that's printed so I guarantee you within the month there's probably going to be a thousand
more people that are going to say they slept with me. No one has lived in my shoes. I've
lived eight years of hell and I'm not about to back down and take threats from people
that have something hanging over on me or they think they have something. I'm sick of
it. I live like that for a long time. Well that time is over. Now I'm getting on with
my life. If I have to do it alone fine. Well I you have to be impressed with your anger
about this. I mean I'd be upset myself. Tax probe zeros in on Jessica and preacher. And
then secret lovers. Your mom is upset. You don't doubt you don't deny that. Anybody not
anybody's mom would be a close up and playboy. Well you know I mean forget about my clothes
and playboy. I'm talking about with the whole deal. But I mean at you. I mean she's sound
angry. You know she's confused and probably hurt that I didn't go to her. You know and
that's it. I'm not going to make more out of this. Yeah. You found Mr. Barbara in the
newspaper and you called him. He's a lawyer. You read about him in the Long Island paper.
Right. And that's hitting the jackpot if you're a lawyer isn't it. He's my miracle. You know
I can't prove this. I cannot prove what I'm about to say. And viewers of this program
will confirm that I have been known to be wrong. I do not believe you got a million
dollars from playboy. As a lawyer it's very rare that I have nothing to say. But I will
say to you that Jessica was paid very substantial dollars by playboy number one. And we have
in our agreement that we're not allowed to confirm the amount. But let me assure you
she was well paid. Yes. OK. How are you feeling good. Is there a man in your life. Are you
going to go down the little white. I'm really going to have a man in my life now. I mean
he really really has privacy. No I have nobody in my life. I mean I'm a little busy. You
know but but Jessica you threw a strike at the New York Post. I mean who wouldn't put
this on the front page. Holy cow I couldn't wait to read it myself. And people know I
don't have a dirty mind. You have you have. It's a it's a drama that has a beautiful
young woman pompous hypocritical preachers television money and phoniness. He took his
robot or took his his his terry cloth bathing suit off and said when you what about the
shepherd. You help the shepherd you help the sheep.
If you had it to do over again after this event after which is after this terrible incident
in Florida what would you do differently. If I had if you know if you could start the
strategy of healing of bringing yourself back from the ashes and this emotional turmoil.
I probably would have gone to somebody more professional I would have thought professional
help one way or another either legally or spiritually or whatever. I would have opened
up about it more. See now we're left to wonder were you a virgin before this happened. I
mean this is not getting raped twice. You know women say they get raped once and then
they get raped by the people who try to blame the victim. You're getting raped. It seems
to me in public many times over. You've got boyfriends now claiming that they've been
up here apartments. You've got these people. Let me make this straight. These people are
acquaintances. These are people are people that you know I've met had barbecues with.
I didn't sleep with these people. This is just a good story. It has my name and that's
it. What I will say is that this is going to continue to happen. I don't enjoy this
part of it. The biggest thing that I do enjoy is the thing that happened in Playboy that
I had an opportunity to finally tell my story. When I went to Playboy they said Jessica
just give us your story. The pictures were optional. I made that decision alone. That
is the bright side of this. That it's there. Now anybody who wants to know about it read
it. Did you interview with your mother on current affair and how did it make you feel?
All I know is how my mom felt and again I love her so much and I would do nothing to
hurt her. Well obviously I don't know what happened or what didn't happen but I think
you've got a lot of guts to come out and tell your story. Thank you. Yes ma'am. I would
like to ask what happened in the seven years in between? There was a lot of time for me
to think and I went through a lot of emotions and it was a living hell for the most part.
It really was. Why did it take seven years? Because I was constantly being told that I
would end up hurting the whole kingdom of God if I opened my mouth. I'd like to know how
the encounter with Baker and Fletcher has affected her religious beliefs. My faith is
actually improved. It's stronger than ever because I no longer worship God's representative
but I worship God. In view of the devastation that has caused your family, if you thought
about it would you do it again? Do what again now? The Playboy. I know they understand why
I did it or they will and I would have no problem doing Playboy again. Jessica I know
you're angry about being called a bimbo. I read the article on Playboy but what I don't
understand is why did you market yourself in a bimbo magazine? Let me first say. You
agree? I agree wholly. Tell her how you feel. For a girl who speaks so articulate and seems
to think that she is now exploiting her body of inalienable innocence to show the public
why couldn't you pick a magazine like Cosmopolitan or Ladies Home Journal instead of a book such
as this. First of all Playboy. For all the men and all the dirty men on 42nd street as
well as the other people in the United States and elsewhere who look at. Playboy is one
of the classiest magazines out and I want to tell you something. Let me explain something.
Can I finish my answer please? I've had authors from other publications that would have liked
me to wire myself and do things that a bimbo would do. Playboy wanted the truth. I'm told
that a tabloid wanted to wire you and wanted you to go and seduce Baker. They wanted to
wire me and have me talk to Jerry Falwell and find out all the inside secrets and Jim
Baker and Jimmy Swaggott and find out all I needed to know to destroy their whatever.
And Playboy gave me all of the choices and opportunities. Jessica I'm not passing judgment
on your posing nude. However all it does to everybody around us is to collaborate the
story and encourage more stories. Do you think that for a moment that did not cross my mind
that if I. That is the most obvious. No no no no I know what you're saying but it is
the most obvious thing that for a woman who has gone through what I have gone through
and to pose semi nude would apparently hurt my credibility. Do you think I didn't think
of that? My story I know what I am. I really do and I have no problems with what I did.
I know what I am. Jessica I don't know how to say this but if Playboy didn't offer you
any money would you have done it? I'll tell you something. You know I was I was down to
nothing no one was coming to my side. I had a lot of authors from different people with
very they were very generous just like Playboy. I chose Playboy because of the way they said
Jessica we want your story no wires no gimmicks no nothing. We'd like your story and the pictures
of your choice money we all like it and we all need to survive and I would be lying to
you if I said that didn't matter. I needed it and I very much appreciate the chance to
have something that I could live on for a while. Is there a caller there? Go ahead caller.
The issue is not Jessica Hahn posing nude in Playboy or Jessica Hahn's past. The issue
is that a minister an evangelical minister taking money from the public a married man
went and had sex with a woman who was not his wife while trying to tell his flock that
that was wrong. More power to someone like people like Jessica Hahn who exposed these
pious jerks that are on TV. These pious jerks that are on TV. Yes. The only thing that bothers
me about the Playboy thing is that if this guy really did rape you and it sounds like
rape to me I've never heard you say rape but it sure sounds like rape if he really did
then he should be punished for this in some way and you're going to kind of ruin your
credibility and he's not going to get what he deserves. I've gotten to a place where
is anybody or any of the critics paying my bills do I know I should care what you think
and I do to a point is I don't want to hurt anybody but I'll tell you something everybody
is focusing on the pictures and the credibility I'll tell you something I lived it and that's
enough and I dare anybody here I dare anybody to live in my shoes for one day the story
is as important as the pictures and the pictures are as important as the story. Why what? Why
the pictures they want? Why the pictures? Because I want to tell you something what
God created is good it's beautiful it should be appreciated it should be cherished. No?
I'm sorry when you take Jessica Hahn and you take her story and you take all of all of
the juicy stuff well you have to take her face too and I believe what God created is
good and I was tired of being seen as some kind of slut or seducer I wanted to be seen
as a woman who is something good and well I might just say I am not playing a game I'm
saying to myself and that's who I decided is most important for the first time I'm saying
I Jessica I'm saying I'm not a slave to these men for the rest of my life and to me that
is my step in life to do this in playboy which is probably the most ironic the most far-fetched
idea for somebody who is a church secretary is probably unbelievable to people but it
is a step for me because why on God's earth should I let Jim and John run the rest of
my life run my mind and run my body when they tossed it about and couldn't have cared less
what they were doing to me it's ironic in the Christian world when a person is struggling
he can turn to the church and things are okay I was in the church and things got screwed
up and then I did this and got okay it's ironic the order of things.
I just make one point all of us are deeply offended by what Baker did all of us there
isn't a person in this room who doesn't hate it but I question is anyone really offended
by what Jessica did in the magazine I mean personally offended.
Yes they are.
From a heart.
Well you know you may not agree with it but apparently we have a number of people in the
audience that don't think women should take their clothes off and have the picture taken
is that part of what you're.
I think she made a joke out of it by she could have talked to the public she did not have
to be naked.
Why?
I just want to know how we can really pass judgment on her for this because I mean she
is a woman who is brutally raped and first of all a million dollars doesn't come close
to compensating for that and we're going to spend the whole time talking about this and
not talking about that is a man who's who makes his money passing judgment on other
people Jim Baker and doing this kind of thing behind the scenes and we're going to spend
a full hour talking about what was he saying anything this is John this is John the second
visitor to the room he's yelling you're not going to forget me you're going to forget
Jim but you're not but you're going to remember me that's all he kept saying so by now I'm
crying and screaming because of the pain I'm praying that somebody will walk by I'm looking
at this man's face and for a split second I thought he's going to kill me that's what
I thought he's going to break my neck he's going to do something I can't take this pain
his hands were so close to my neck I thought my God what's to stop him because he was so
crazy and he's going on and on and on I just couldn't stand it but I shut up because I
was afraid he was going to kill me.
What I don't understand is why it did take the seven years I can't imagine you carrying
around this guilt and this pain.
Well you are aware that there was a payoff by the PTO.
Yes.
A promise $265,000 of which you claim to have received $20,000 in cash plus some monthly
payments which added up to an unknown amount.
You also claim that of $120,000 given to you Paul Roper the attorney who brokered this
arrangement with PTO took 95 is that what you're on record as saying?
That's correct.
Except that Mr. Roper was not an attorney by the way.
He was in law school.
He was not an attorney.
So why not just go to the police?
I mean it takes two to tango.
You know.
If it was really that brutal go to the police.
My church is real important and Jim Baker wasn't exactly a nobody in the Christian world
and people didn't need to know about that and I was constantly reminded Jessica if you
want to be responsible for what happens to PTO do you want to be responsible if Jim Baker
puts a gun to his head?
I didn't want that responsibility.
I did not know.
But he wasn't worried about you?
Obviously he wasn't but I was worried about the church people.
It seems like if you had gotten your original $295,000 you'd never be here and that again
it was the money and playboy.
I'm still trying to figure out why you're mad at her.
Let me understand it.
Are you mad that she took her clothes off?
Do you believe she was victimized by two males in Florida?
That's only her word.
There's no proof.
Number one if she accepted money that makes the bottom line it makes her a prostitute.
Number two how come if she was so traumatized how come she remembers everything so well?
You know sir I lived this for eight years and I dare you to live in my shoes for two
days you wouldn't make it and I'm telling you that right now that you could not make
it and I don't believe and if I've learned anything from this and so this is important
for me to say that when people are hurt and taken advantage of who says that they should
sit in a corner and be depressed and be a slave to their problems.
I believe that people should be able to get on with their life and not allow people to
take advantage and manipulate them and I finally woke up one day and said never again will
anyone manipulate me and you're saying I should sit in a corner and be traumatized.
I'm sorry I don't buy it.
Those men knew what they did to me.
They knew they tore me open and violated me.
They knew I was sick and did nothing about it.
They knew I was bleeding and did nothing about it.
Did nothing.
They just laughed about it.
They bragged about it on television.
They did things that people are in jail 15 and 20 years for at least and they walk away
without any scars without facing the public because the public always looks down on a
woman.
And we'll be back in just a moment.
If you're a cat lover you know how important it is to feed them.
I am a former victim of an acquaintance rape.
In your beginning remarks you spoke as he alleged the incident and how what you read
in Playboy was as close to a rape as whatever you have heard of.
Rape as whatever you have heard of.
This woman was raped.
You set the tone of the show by blaming the victim as so many men and women are doing
in your audience and that you started that by doing.
Jessica Hahn was a victim.
I would like to tell her right now that whatever she did that night she did right because she
is a survivor and she is up there right now and more power to her.
I accept your admonition.
This audience is still mad at her.
People who believe she was abused are still angry with her.
Now how do you figure that.
Are you there caller.
Can I say something.
Sure.
You know first of all when this thing broke Jim Baker broke this story on March 19th.
Okay he got on the air and he resigned.
Now what was I going to do hide in my apartment.
This thing I am dealing with it publicly because it is a public thing.
If this were being handled behind closed doors then I would handle it behind closed doors.
I have no choice but to deal with this publicly because it is a public story.
I don't think anybody is arguing that.
They are saying I am exploiting it all I am doing is telling my side of the story.
Jessica how did you get into a room with two king size beds and two men in the first place.
This is chapter one of the story now.
Obviously you are very bad at following this scandal.
This is a man who babysat for him and his children.
He invited them down to Florida.
I went I thought it was a privilege.
You were 20 at the time.
I was 20 this is 8 years ago by the way.
Jessica how was the idea of hush money conceived and when it stopped is that when you blew
the whistle or what is the story behind that.
First of all the story broke.
It broke March my money stopped they stopped my money.
You know I didn't blow the whistle on anybody again Jim Baker broke the story.
What is the question?
Who approached you with the idea of the payoff?
Of the payoff?
How did that surface?
With Paul Roper.
He is the one who arranged everything.
I don't understand the question.
He is the one that arranged it.
Oh no I through a series of things I requested that Paul Roper ask for Paul Roper's help.
Are you there caller go ahead.
Hello.
Jessica before Fletcher and Baker tossed your body brutally wasn't there one point in time
when you could have put your hand on a door knob and left that room or picked up a phone
and threatened to expose them.
No I could not.
You know do you think do you think the wine that you were encouraged to drink was spiked.
I could tell you honestly that that would not be fair to say that that's what happened
but I will tell you that after I drank that I was not well.
Well then why would it not be fair to say that.
Because I can't confirm it.
I mean I'm not like a scandal sheet like we read today.
When I want to say something.
You seem to be very conscientious about this.
Because so many people.
You say you were sick you didn't know where you were you crawled you couldn't even walk.
I know.
So that sounds like somebody slipped you a Mickey.
If you want my opinion I believe it was.
I cannot confirm it.
I didn't eat all that dead and sleep I was excited about the trip.
Again it can't be confirmed.
You wanted to say.
I can't believe that some of the men left here.
But many women are in situations that they are taking advantage of them.
Yes they are.
By the circumstances it's a type of rape.
Yes but I do not have to tell you old man who stands at the bar that the playboy pictures
and this is not the comment on their morality at all.
I happen to have looked at them myself.
The playboy pictures if anything diminishes her own public persona as victim.
That's the problem.
Wait a minute.
Let me say something.
I'm not even saying that's right.
It's just a fact.
Who made the rules that when you're a victim you have to hide in a corner.
Who made these rules?
Why can't you go out and feel good about yourself eight years later.
What's the matter?
Yeah I don't have much time.
I don't think that anybody is upset that this happened to you.
I think a lot of us believe that you've been victimized.
I think what happens is now we have second thoughts because we see pictures.
I think if it was just the story in what you call a classy magazine we would have a second
thought about that.
We would still feel on your side.
I think it's the pictures that now we're having second thought.
There's money involved.
Well I don't really think the pictures are all that bad.
I really don't.
I think a million dollars is a million dollars.
Go with it.
Yeah what is it?
I was just wondering when these type of incidents occur why is it the men rightfully or wrongfully
have been ruined so to speak and the women go on to reap the financial gain.
That's news to me.
Go ahead Carl are you there?
Yes Phil.
Yes.
I'd like to know you've had other celebrities ask Goldie Hawn and what other celebrities
know why do they do it.
They always give you the answer well I'm not ashamed of my body other reasons why can't
they just come out and say I did it for the money.
I mean if I was.
You know what you know what you know let me tell you something right now.
I am not embarrassed about accepting money and I'm not going to lie and if you all have
a problem with me accepting a generous amount of money I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
How do you explain this feeling of negative energy that you have?
I guess confusion and I guess maybe a little bit of jealousy.
None of me.
No I'm just saying you know I'm not going to lie and sit up here and play Miss Noble
that oh I did it.
I did it for a number of reasons but I'll tell you the money was there it was a generous
office I've had other offers but I was I remember when I had forty dollars in June and no one
came by you know so if I accepted that money then I'm sorry I accepted it and I don't
feel bad about it.
Even a million dollars doesn't last forever what are you going to do next year when people
have forgotten about this.
I'll be able to have a little bit of peace in my life.
For a living she'd like to know do you have any career ambitions?
I really have a soft spot that you're not even going to believe this but for the elderly
you know you're going to say it doesn't but I really do.
I'd like to be able to help maybe someday or start some kind of organization in a nursing
home or do something of the sort.
I recommend you take the million dollars and invest it wisely in real estate or something
because when your name goes off the tabloids that may very well be the end of it.
Well I think she knows that I mean that's another yeah.
I didn't read anything about your case just what I heard on the news but I want to know
why do you feel that you need an attorney with you all the time.
Well when I was on the Donnie You Show a few months back I feel Donnie said I can't believe
you have no representative I really can't.
Well I took you know I listened to that and I talked to Howard Stern and he said Jessica
get somebody you know.
I'm sorry I have to tell you.
No I'm sorry but Howard Stern is somebody that's on the.
No not at all.
No let me finish answering my question.
Howard Stern we should say is a morning radio personality.
Yeah and he's also he's also one of the only people that called me and said Jessica how
are you are you okay and is there anything I can do for you.
This is even off the air so I'm sorry but I appreciate the man.
I just want to explain the convulsion here.
They do not perceive him as an altar boy because of the nature of his program.
I consider it my miracle I picked up a paper saw his name called him and he's here because
I've spent too much time alone doing this and finally now I have somebody with me.
I want to know why you felt the church would be better off by you not saying anything about
Jim Baker raping you.
I mean I think the church would be better off finding.
This is what they told me and I want to.
Yeah I did.
Jessica don't you feel that the action that has happened the sensationalism has sort of
compromised when the next rape victim comes about.
I pray to God that she has that she is the strength to not lay back and let her become
a slave to that incident that she can go forward and feel like she's still loved and that people
will understand and she will not feel guilty and she will not feel like a victim for the
rest of her life.
She should be held accountable just as anyone else and it shouldn't be Jermaine.
I think what's troublesome here is that after the fact it shouldn't matter what matters
is what happened to you.
And there's a great deal of rage out there that I think there are people watching who
are mad at this audience because what they perceive to be an insensitive attitude toward
a person that was really manhandled at a very young age at a time.
Now this is.
Exactly Phil.
This is when I was 21 I'm 28 this is I've grown up you know it didn't happen yesterday
it took me a long time.
I want people to know that there's a way out no matter what situation you're in you're
going to come out OK.
Going forward Jessica I just like to say I'm a local banker and if you need help in investing
your funds.
And we'll be back in just a moment.
Every winter day a ritual takes place in homes bundling up kids to go outside.
But no amount of bundling can stop the cold completely.
That's why there's more hot cereal flavored with wheat and malt to taste great and help
keep kids warm on the inside.
I think I need some more milk.
I'm curious Jessica after that terrible experience that you had and you were able to think a
little bit did you seek any medical help like go to a hospital in case you might be impregnated.
I didn't I did nothing I was I was just petrified to do anything.
You did worry about pregnancy you said so out loud I was I thought I was walking around
with.
Yeah.
I hope you notice the beloved press is here.
Take their picture for us here.
This is some kind of story the notebooks are out and the shorthand is going.
Are you upset at media.
Jessica how do you think you bring it.
You know what I wish that the media has been great in some areas but you know what sometimes
I wish that you would just report the news and not create it.
You know there are some stories that are just created because they need a headline and that
annoys me but in other areas you know people need to know what's happening.
I understand that and they most of them have been there.
How does the attorney-at-law feel about this IRS inquiry.
Well the investigation is taking place in Albany is not as Jessica is a target.
Jessica's filed her tax returns.
She has no problems at all.
Well there is an event.
And why would two alleged former boyfriends be obliged to testify.
I don't want to get into too much but let me suggest that she's not the target and you'll
see later as it develops but she has no problems with taxes state or federal.
Have there been any offers from Hollywood television movie a week anything like that.
We've had offers from different movie studios from TV channels for TV movies from books.
Running out of time.
Have you had healthy relationships.
Did you have healthy relationships during the eight years that you kept the secret.
How are you emotionally in that sense are you able to relate to a male etc.
Sure.
How about.
Well you don't deny you were you you present as a person who at 20 we had a rather arrested
sexual maturation.
That apparently has been healed and restored over the past eight years.
Is the caller there.
Go ahead.
Yes.
Hello.
I just like to say that when I was 16 I was raped by a friend.
He had a gun and he beat me very badly.
And I never said anything about it.
But there is not enough money in this world that he could offer me that I would accept
because that would mean that I'm saying that is OK that he did that to me.
Well he she's.
Well for him to even presume to make this right by giving her money would have been
a further insult she's saying.
So she wonders how you could have accepted money from the organization that they don't
have.
The P.T.L. just took over one hundred seventy two dollar ministry.
You know everybody's collected on this and are paying their bills.
I'm not saying I collected on it.
I just went out and I decided to take a step and the offer was very generous and I accepted
that also.
It is also a curiosity that a flower would have altered the course of P.T.L.
This is this is how I know why they're laughing.
I don't mean this to be funny.
I am making an inquiry about what you have said to Playboy and to us on the occasion
of your last visit to our program.
It was the it was the use and abuse and discard nature of sexual trist that seems to have
you enraged the that you got not any kind of.
There wasn't the remotest nice nicety about this.
And you are also saying if he had come out to a black person trying to be white is that
how you see it.
Yeah I think that's that's a real need.