frightening moment we thought about it we thought this is a magnificent animal surely we should look into it more and that's what we've decided to do the horse and its owner are in here what's his name? Tom no he could put you out here just be careful if you do you know keep an eye on him all the time but I don't go in there with him um my husband does the feed and puts the feed in and out how old is he? he's three. three years old and what contact has he had with people or horses or whatever? no contact with horses at all people is just us to feed him just be careful wouldn't mind a nip would he but still that is it is the most beautiful horse if you stand over there a little bit no I'll let him out and I'll open the door. he's going to be a bit explosive when he comes out the door. he will take off like a rocket and how do you get him back in? I let him come back in himself by himself you can't tell him what to do you can't force him well light the wick alright come on Thomas he's off he moves well you're staying behind the gate I don't blame you I'm not silly gypsy gypsy woof woof woof woof keep an eye on him does he have any future? well no not really if I can't handle him can't get him you know handled well there would be no future and you know I'll have to get him put down you know and he's too good a horse to be put down you know rather than see him put down what if what if Burke's backyard bought him and we try and get him trained up to be a useful member of society or something would we have a chance of turning him around? well I'll give I'll certainly give it a go would you sell him? yes yes if you know if you feel that you can do something with him well I don't know but I'm prepared to give it a try we'll give it a try alright well you got a deal? yes we've got a deal alright well we'll buy him and we'll get a horse trainer in and see if we can turn him around well Tom looks like you're part of the Burke's backyard team now want to celebrate with a carrot? not yet maybe in a week or two's time another new member of the Burke's backyard team is an experienced horseman but you probably don't know him as a horse rider you would know him as an actor on E Street and also a silver logy winner he appeared on the Burke's backyard show recently his name Bruce Samazam now breaking him in are you happy to take on the job? I'd love to yeah but I'm glad that I'm not going to be doing it all by myself I'll be doing it with one of the best horsemen in the country Rhys Burchill fantastic is it as simple as they show in the western movies where you just run him around a ring he bucks 20 times and then he knows everything? no not at all it's not that easy at all it takes a lot of time a lot of patience a lot of dedication too but I mean the rewards later are fantastic you know he's going to make a beautiful pet for someone one day and there you go there's an idea I'm sure there's someone out there that would die for a horse like this could always give him away alright look I think that's a good idea at the end of the thing if he's turned into the gentleman that you think he can be we'll give him away really? yeah why not? that sounds fantastic yeah well he is a beautiful horse isn't he? and you might be pleased to know that the training is actually coming along quite well so we've definitely decided to give Tom away would you like him? do you want him? well if you would like him why not write into us here at Burke's Backyard in 50 words or less and tell us why we should deliver Tom around to your place or you can buy next week's edition of the Woman's Day magazine read all about the details of the competition and fill in the attached coupon and we've spoken to our friends at Horseland who will chuck in all the gear you'd ever need that means the rug, the saddle, the bridle, all the grooming equipment everything you're going to need to have a great time with a horse now bear in mind owning a horse is a huge responsibility you'll need somewhere to keep him and the time to take care of him and to exercise him make sure if you live at home that you talk to mum or dad before you enter be no good if Tom lobs and they don't want him just send your entry to My White Horse, Burke's Backyard, PO Box 929, Willoughby, New South Wales 2068 meanwhile over the next few weeks Bruce Samazan will be organising Tom's training and we'll be showing you the progress week by week but now coming up after the break, routers Well welcome back, of course we're back on Delphin Island in Adelaide what a great garden this is, notice everything is gridded off geometrically beaut design, white flowering plants, of course obviously the box hedges, the iceberg roses little tip though, whenever you're doing this, buy a few extra box hedge plants pot them up out the back, let them grow on so that if somebody backs a truck over part of your hedge or one drops dead, you've got a spare plant to drop straight in but now it's time for Peter Harris and he's going to show us a piece of equipment that really I think we all need There are a few power tools that the backyard builder must have but once you've bought the basics like this circular saw, jigsaw, sander and drill, what do you get next? Well for some it's the machine that does this and this, and even this, and of course this shelf edge over here and this table edge, now have you ever wondered just how these amazing moulded shapes are made well timber yards and joinery shops of course have very sophisticated expensive equipment to do that sort of thing but for the home handyman the answer is the router A router basically consists of a motor which spins a cutting bit at very high speeds up to about 40,000 revs per minute the cutting bit is run against the edge or surface of a piece of timber removing waste and leaving behind a moulded or sculpted edge or shape you can make things like architraves, tongue and groove joints, mortises, decorative mouldings for tables and shelves or even picture frames routers can cost between $150 and $500 but for around $250 you can get yourself a pretty good heavy duty model that's going to cope with most home handyman jobs pretty satisfactorily however it's these bits that can be very expensive a high speed steel bit like this one is going to set you back around $20 but for a real fancy number like this one with hard carbide steel cutters that can set you back around $150 now there are two basic types of cutters, this one has a ball bearing guide on the top that's an edge cutting bit and there are surface cutting bits now these bits are used for cutting a decorative groove or a groove that you can use to make really strong joints in furniture like bookshelves when you're using a bit like this you will need to use a guide or a fence otherwise you're going to wander all over the job edge cutting bits are used to make decorative edges on pieces of furniture like tables, bookcases, drawer and cupboard fronts now when you're using a router there are a couple of important points to remember always protect your eyes, ears and lungs make multiple passes at increasing depths rather than one deep cut allow the bit to reach its maximum speed before feeding it to the work piece and when you're moulding all four edges of a rectangular piece of work like a tabletop do the end grains first, then run the router along each side for a neater result routers are great because they can make an ordinary piece of timber look really special this piece of 4x1 pine I've routed on both sides and it will become a very elegant picture frame likewise this coffee table that we've bought has a most unattractive plain bleak top but with a little judicious routing it's going to become a work of art there you go, it's amazing what a little bit of routing can do now all I'm going to do here is fill these grooves and hollows with a coloured epoxy and give the table a final polish if you want to know a little bit more about routing here's a book that I really recommend in recent years in Australia the great gardening trend has been well perhaps either the cottage garden or the old fashioned garden it may well be because of the pace of modern living old fashioned gardens well they offer that escape back into the days of yore when things were just a little bit more tranquil and of course one of the great exponents of the old fashioned garden and the cottage garden in particular is Trevor Nottle he's written a series of books explaining just how these gardens are created why do you think Trevor there's the great interest in old fashioned gardens in Australia? I think in the main because a lot of people have found modern gardens unsatisfying I think a lot of people feel very uncomfortable about a garden that is wide open to the street they like a sense of enclosure that makes them feel comfortable and at home why the cottage garden in particular? I think it enables you to achieve a degree of satisfaction about growing a variety of things within a formal structure that's then filled with a profusion of informally planted things a lot of people still very heavily into growing a wide variety of plants rather than a few varieties in a wide landscape so that's that collector thing in all of us that a lot of people still like to satisfy in your own garden Trevor what are some of the principles that you use to make these old fashioned gardens work? the most important one is to achieve a look of maturity and the best way to do that is to have several levels of growth high trees, little distance shrubs and things underneath and to achieve that you really need to train trees properly from the beginning like this Gladiaceae over here which I put up on a stake to about 12-15 feet and pruned hard to get the branches way up high if you don't do that you end up with a birds nest that you can't get under and then you have to trim it up drastically later on when it gets in the road is the mistake a lot of cottage gardens are just a flat group of perennials and things and they look a bit, well, colour interesting but otherwise boring yes I think that's one of the problems the other problem is a lot of people don't make nearly enough use of foliage once the flowers are finished that's it you really need to have things that have got foliage, ferns, hostas, evergreens that give you form long after the flowers are finished what do you think in general of garden design in Australia? I think my general comment would be that it lacks imagination and creativity we've got a lot of people, both clients and designers following fashion usually three or four years at least behind what might be happening elsewhere but I think that the main problem is that people just are not stepping back from what's been done over the last 200 years and taking time to think how's it working in our light how is it working in our climate, how's it working in the way we live and then trying to respond to that in ways that are appropriate for us here are you hinting at the fact that there is no Australian garden? well yes but I'm not sure that there ever can be I think we are so influenced by ideas from overseas that it's unlikely that we'll ever develop any idea that can be isolated as ours but I still think we've got a long way to go in finding plants that match our climate and using them in ways that aren't direct copies of what's being done in North America or Europe are nurseries and nursery people providing the things that we need? I'd like to see at least some of them be a lot more adventurous into plants that they import from overseas and the seeds that they try and I would like to see them make a lot more use of people in the community who make good gardens or satisfying gardens as part of an education program that they would run maybe on a Sunday afternoon or Saturday morning but I think they need to do a lot more of selling plants telling people why they're good and how they can use them rather than just saying here's something pretty and it's new for 1994 and it's $5.95 and get yours while they're hot this is a phenomenon many people complain about they say my plant is ill, it's got something growing on it at scale or whatever well those little things there are a type of plant they're called a lichen and for the technically minded that means it's a symbiotic relationship between an elger and a fungus now it's totally harmless they grow often on the tiles on your roof, they grow on rocks and they also grow on the stems of plants don't kill them, they look quite pretty, they indicate your air quality is very good there's not too much pollution around but they are totally harmless and if you take the time to look at them they're actually very pretty they are again lichens, not lichens, lichens have you ever wondered where the water goes when you wash the car? well mostly it's going to go down the drain and into a bushland area somewhere nearby and what a lot of people don't realise is this sudsy stuff is detergent it's actually very high in phosphates which are a powerful plant nutrient now in the garden that's fine, in the bushland areas it's a very different matter this is one of the last natural areas left on this river all that green stuff there might look nice but it's invariably weeds and they've got no value for wildlife they also, as you can see, make it kind of hard to enjoy the bushland now you've got balloon vine here, you've got lantana a whole bunch of imported feral plants basically wrecking the ecology why are they here? because of the nutrients, the phosphates and nitrates that have washed into this area from the urban stuff up on top there now it's not just people washing their cars of course it's things like fertilising your lawn and then letting it run off like top dressing, like all those dog turds that have got to go somewhere and like putting grass clippings in the gutter where they wash down into natural areas like this and it's not just the riverbanks that are affected, it's also the water itself excess nutrients here can make blue-green algae grow and this can make the water toxic even if the algae isn't toxic it often all dies at once when this happens most of the oxygen in the water is used up and this can lead to major fish kills last summer we had the spectacle of one of Australia's greatest waterways the Darling River reduced to a lurid green streak on the landscape due to algae so excess nutrients are a real disaster whether they're on the ground or in the water the second problem with urban runoff is the speed of the water now in nature rain mostly soaks in where it falls but in built up areas it lands on hard surfaces like roads or roofs and rapidly finds its way into the storm water system from there it's a very short trip into a natural creek line where the water can literally tear the guts out of a creek system and that's of course what you've got the results of here the upstream part of this creek has been severely eroded what this is is a vast massive silt that's been deposited as the waters hit the backed up water further down there and it's good really only for smothering the aquatic ecosystems that used to be there for growing things like privet and these other weeds or for depositing lovely objects like this there are a lot of ways that we can all help solve these problems for a start you can think about using less water for example install a drip irrigation system have a native garden that needs less watering or a rainwater tank now in the city you wouldn't want to drink the water but at least it stays in the water and it's great for the garden if you do wash your car make sure that the water runs under your grass where it's useful and not down the drain where it causes problems but also make sure you don't park on the grass or you'll have all sorts of compaction problems think about using low phosphate detergents and put your grass clippings in the compost not in the gutter and finally don't use your hose as a broom that's what this is for you know it's really easy to blame someone for all this urban runoff you know blame government blame industry but really it's something that we all contribute to and something that we all should be doing something about you might remember on last week's program we looked at the most dumped breeds of dog in Australia what we did was we looked at the RSPCA's acceptance of dumped dogs and we looked at them breed by breed and five breeds of dog had very high dumpage rates now starting from the lowest first we looked at the rough collie that is the lassie type of dog the Doberman, German Shepherd, Bull Terrier and the one with the highest dumpage rate of all was the Australian Cattle Dog well on tonight's program we're being rather more positive we're looking at of the top 20 dogs in Australia which are the least dumped and in some ways I suppose that means the most satisfactory now starting from the top of the list this time the first one is this one here this is a boxer and from our survey 4.85% of boxes were dumped and that's quite a low figure the next best one with a low dump rate with a figure almost half that or in fact better than half of that 2.25% of rot violas were dumped and that is a very low figure the average figure for all pedigreed dogs was around about 13% and then there was this little chap here this is the Cavalier King Charles Spaniel and 1.58% of these were dumped that's a very low figure indeed so these dogs turn out to be extremely satisfactory for the sort of people who own them now you might remember I just said that the Rough Collie was one of the most unpopular or if you like heavily dumped dogs in Australia the little Shelty which I suppose Shetland Sheepdog in many ways is like a miniature Rough Collie had an extremely low dumpage rate 1.21% but of the top 20 dogs in Australia there was one breed that absolutely stood out and that's this one here this is a Golden Retriever if you like they're a bit like a long coated Labrador and only 0.52% of these were dumped so of the most popular breeds in Australia this one by a big margin is the winner now so much for the top 20 dog breeds in Australia the fact is there's around about 160 dog breeds in Australia and of those about 113 had zero dumpage rates in our survey so we thought we should look apart from just the top 20 breeds what we did was to combine the dogs with extremely low dumpage rates and then relate that to the recommendations of a number of dog experts we got the recommendations from Dr. Hugh Worth who's National Head of the RSPCA Dr. Rob Zamit that you see on the program and I had a bit of a lash out of myself we've come up with another five dog breeds with very low dumpage rates which we feel are worth a look at those breeds are the Pug the Pug well alright he's got a pushed in face and he snuffles a bit but he's everybody's friend and he doesn't bite the kids there's the German short haired pointer that many experts said is an outstanding breed and then the English Springer Spaniel came out as being I suppose the most acceptable of all the Spaniels the Labrador, Labradors are wonderful dogs and they certainly are worth thinking about and lastly one you mightn't expect the Whippet probably of all the sight hounds that is things like greyhounds and so on and Afghans this is well the most cosmopolitan and friendly we'd like to thank the RSPCA and Dr. Hugh Worth for all the assistance we got in doing this research and there was something very interesting that came out of it and that is that there were two breeds that all of the experts really thought were fantastic and that came out really well in the stats that is of course the two that we mentioned before the Golden Retriever and the Cavalier King Charles Spaniel now the results were so useful that we've decided to extend the research to a full year and I'm sure then we'll get some well even more interesting results and we'll keep you appraised of those over the months ahead well we're back at Delphin Island look at this for a combination of plants I think this is a particularly fine assembly of plants it's how you put things together that determines whether they work or not Swains Golden Pencil Pine probably the most dominant plant in this group would be the Golden Diasma this is a Green Stead Magnifica type of Cyprus Dwarf Malaluca Incarna very pretty little plant notice how the colours work so well together Golden Bookleaf Pine the dwarf form and over in the other bit there we've got things like Colitrus a native plant, native conifer but these plants just work so well together you could learn a lot from looking at gardens like this ah in the depths of winter there's nothing like settling down in the lounge room with a good book and a comfy chair but for many elderly people getting into a chair is fine but getting out of it can be a bit of a problem but not with this chair because this is the Dawson chair and this is the man who inspired it Smoggy this is fairly sophisticated it's got lots of controls like a minor rocket ship press the button that's right that's your starter off that's the massage there's a little red button there for your heat back heater one for the back one for the legs leg heater, leg massage she can't take the peace captain you can put that heat in good isn't it eh? put your bang right up against it now relax isn't that fantastic? let's go into dream world here we go right back shut your eyes oh this is truly great this is wonderful this is this is Dawson chair the lie ah where are you Jim? you're back but more importantly it goes the other way too I believe yes well it'll put you on your feet if you want to go back in your seat let's give it a whirl top button I'll let you go here we go so let's assume that nature's calling I need to get up rather rapidly well it'll be that away if you want to go we're heading in the right direction if we go there you'll find around the corner another little an industry that is about to start it's called the lift toilet the lift toilet? yes so from the chair to the toilet you'll find it is very very easy no worry of having to oh this is good isn't it? struggle with these places the lift toilet? yes I think my time has come and I'm looking forward to this enjoy yourself Jim but don't break the seat will ya? well if the Dawson chairs are booned in the lounge room this thing is a positive blessing for anyone who's got problems well getting around getting up and down gives you back a bit of your dignity the lift toilet seat uses a 240 volt electric motor that plugs straight into your power point and it's suitable for people weighing up to around 250 kilos it lifts up at the back to a height of around 16 inches or 400 mils and at the front to 12 inches or 300 mils so that you end up in a almost a standing position when you're finished and should you not need it it also works as just an ordinary standard toilet seat what does it cost? around about $2,000 without delivery and installation oh and if you think I'm going to personally demonstrate this on national television you're wrong if you're after a deciduous tree for your backyard you could do a lot worse than to get one of these this particular tree above me here is a tree well it's got a horrible name it's called ginkgo biloba and ginkgo is a dreadful word it's spelled g-i-n-k-g-o and even most horticulturists get that wrong who cares it has beautiful buttercup yellow leaves in autumn as you can see some of the formers of it grow to these lovely layered trees and if you're lucky enough to have a little bit of water in the backyard maybe your pond won't be quite this big well this is the tree for you the name again ginkgo biloba it's known of course as you might guess as the maiden hair tree because each little leaflet looks quite like a maiden hair leaf coming up next tonight's celebrity gardener Pam Burridge water sports in Australia are huge and that brings us to tonight's celebrity gardener she's currently ranked the number one women surfer in the world that's Pam Burridge her husband is Mark Ravitch he was an Australian champion in his day and he's her board designer and sculptor they actually build their own surfboards in their own backyard I turned professional when I was 16 but I'd already toured in Hawaii and surfed against the world champions of that time when I was 15 so it's a little bit difficult because the lifestyle is always taking you away from here so what do you think honey 18 and a half again yeah 18 and a half that was the winner for sure seems to be comfortable doesn't it you actually make your own surfboards in your own garage in the backyard well we shape them Don yeah we don't actually complete the board but we do shape the surfboard I get inspiration sometimes in the middle of the night and I come out here and do a bit of work make the magic board Pam does it make much difference I mean I know this is an ignorant question but as a top competitive surfer does it make much difference the fine refinements of these things oh absolutely some boards are just absolutely magic and you feel like you can do anything on them and other ones are dogs basically really yeah and sometimes you can't tell by looking at them the only way you can tell is to get out there and have a surf on them so what first attracted you to Mark I see I had to figure out a way to get near this great shaper so I'm way over where you're at with your perception there you go is it pivotal for you staying your number one in the world at the moment is it pivotal to have an absolutely top of the range board absolutely now I would imagine I'm only guessing but I would imagine with you two travelling the world the backyard is less than it doesn't look too good I was just wondering I need a bit of advice to think about where to put the dying plants where are your plants Don? this is Maggie, are any of these plants yours or that you've planted? this lavender or used to be lavender I planted that one well it's in the pot it's sincere it's a very sincere plant I like that plant did you put the bougainvillea in? no that was here everything that looks any good was already here the broken board is that one of yours? it's actually one of the team riders but it's seen its day that one yes it's dead oh an archaeological plant what's the story on the bike? a few little push bikes that don't work either they just grow you know oh and you've done all your rubber washing? yes everything's rubber in our house do you have to have a number of sets of all this sort of stuff? yes this nice thick ripcord wetsuit for the winter I hate the cold but you know this is for the summer do you surf all year round? ah yes but I really don't like the winter very much and Don check this out this is the feature entertainment area? this is the entertainment area and the grapevine if you were here in summer ah right over the top it's beautiful but also there's grapes about knee deep which you have to sweep up every day oh dear do you use this area to keep fit or what? yeah I used to I train up for the aquatic gym nowadays but um I used to just do a bit of pumping iron in the backyard oh and a lumpy dog? this is Kane what's the lump? oh it's a bit of a cancer or something she loves to scratch herself up on these on the ferns she'll do a whole lap of the backyard with scratching herself on them she looks older than God oh she's about 15 15 aren't she? she's a sweetie ah she's she likes the camera see the hairy micra not the camera this is the cat yeah she lives there yep barrage outside watch her hook up the top waiting for the wave to bowl now it goes now you're what 27 now? yep you're number one in the world yep how much longer how long can a surfer go on for? um well when I started I was beaten in the world championship by a woman who was 30 so if I chose to I guess I could still go on competing till you know I'm 30 or beyond but um really this year I'm cutting back on my events so I'm just I'm still surfing I'm going to be surfing till I'm 80 or you know that'll be the last thing I do I think so what things do you wish to achieve in life then? in life? new goals? um yeah I don't really know what the next step is for me um I've got a few things I'm trying to try my hand at and learning about you know but like what? um well I'm really interested in writing and um reading that sort of something with the mind not of the body um so um you know that'll keep me busy and I don't really know what's next though is she stalking something is she? I don't know she's on a trip by the way funny dog oh this is rather nice do you get a chance to get out? um yeah we've been out on it twice so far the old Hartley oh that's lovely it's really good it's nice to get out oh and you're proudly sponsored Murphy Johnson Suveroo yeah this is my impresa nice isn't it? super round isn't it? oh there's a few productive plants oh yeah neighbours they're always the best value we've got some grapefruit that's a few pinch them every now and then actually I get sick of grapefruit by the end of that yeah she can only have so many did you have problems in your early competition years for being a a girl and b a tomboy? um no I think both helped me really because when I started surfing I looked like a little boy and so I didn't get harassed because I was just another little kid out there and um and then by the time I got good being a girl was something special so if I was I'd already made my mark in surfing and I got some I guess special treatment in some ways and then I got harassed in other ways so I think it balanced out and um how would I know it was the way it happened and I accepted I know that I'm always going to be a surfer so that's still taking up most of my time but um you know I'd really like to go back to school and to stimulate the mind and I never did my HSC so maybe I'll do that one of these days too but um you know I'm not really sure but that's what this year's about it's time to look and to you know just I think if you create some kind of a vacancy in your life there's going to be something that's going to come and fill it and um you know the vacancy sign's out in the window and I'm just having a look around to see what will fill it Music In my opinion one of the very best of all of the Australian native plants is this one that I'm stepping through here this is the Australian native violet Viola heteracea don't you think it's a magnificent plant? it has some incredible attributes you just plant it and it'll run and spread everywhere I suppose it could be a weed if you're worried about it but it's usually not it flowers for most of the year and it grows really well in a slightly moist or even a shady spot doesn't like hot and dry positions but what a wonderful plant great charm, fabulous ground cover and one of the toughest plants you'll ever grow in your garden the native violet Viola heteracea Now brushing your teeth is one of those horrible things that we all have to do with the soft foods that we eat today if you don't do it frequently you'll be visiting the dentist a lot more often well it's the same with your cat and dog if you don't look after their teeth properly you'll be visiting the vet a lot more frequently well I know what you're thinking straight away my dog won't even let me look at his teeth let alone brush them well I have an incredible new invention that might help you with this problem I bet you're saying to yourself by now he's just going to show us some sort of new fancy toothbrush well these angle type brushes can work providing you've got a well trained dog and you've got a lot of patience but have a look at this, this is just a finger toothbrush and it's so simple it does actually work Joe can you bring in Petey please? now if you combine this with a malt flavoured toothpaste the dog actually enjoys the flavour of the toothpaste and it's positive reinforcement he'll enjoy having his teeth brushed give me Petey, oh don't shake you're at the dentist aren't you just gently start applying it and you can get right up into all his teeth and he doesn't mind it at all you're probably wondering can this really work with my cat well let's have a look at the next step shall we well here goes I'm using a slightly smaller toothbrush because he's never had this done before and we're using a different flavoured toothpaste would you believe chicken flavoured toothpaste always hold the animal's head up if you control the head you generally control the animal just raise the lips and slowly come on now, whoops if your animal is spicy like this just do a couple of teeth at a time just come back to it tomorrow and then do it again just a little bit of the time to commence with and they get used to it once he realises that a it's not going to hurt him and b he'll actually enjoy the flavour of the chicken toothpaste he'll tolerate it and you'll be able to do more teeth each night as time goes on good boy so it is possible just with a little of time and patience I'll be able to do this whole cat's mouth and I'll stop getting complaints from my wife if he's got bad breath there you go well thanks Rob yeah there's nothing worse than a pet that's got bad breath this is superb isn't it great water feature black swan if you're not aware of them now would you like some more information on anything from tonight's program well why not write into Burke's backyard for a fact sheet simply mark on the back of the envelope the segment you're interested in and address it to Burke's backyard P.O. Box 929 Willoughby New South Wales 2068 and don't forget to include a business sized stamped self-addressed envelope our next week's program of course will be following up on Tom the White Horse looking at some of the very best varieties of violets remember violets are often beautifully perfumed we'll be road testing the Himalayan cat and our celebrity gardener is Steddy Eddy well I hope you've enjoyed the look around Adelaide there you go see you all again next week, hurrah this program was brought to you by Poly Products a poly job is an expert job