P.M. Magazine.
I'm at a beach and I end up, you know, signing autographs.
We're sorry, Kristy, but that is the price of fame and fortune.
And tonight on P.M. Magazine, the celebrities who've made it to the top tell what it means to be famous.
Wearing shorts into a nice restaurant is a kick.
Then he looks like a Marlboro man, but he's a top-notch surgeon, Dr. Red Duke.
See how this Texas cowboy mixes his country charm with a bedside manner.
And no doubt your dog has untapped talents.
But could he sit perfectly still through an entire opera aria?
Catch the winners and losers at a canine casting call for La Boheme.
Welcome to Monday's P.M. Magazine.
Tonight, coming your way from the Branch Avenue Fire Station.
Hi, everybody. I'm Sheila Martinez.
And I'm Sprague Theobald.
Now, the fire station here is the largest in the state.
There's some more interesting facts, which we'll give you a little bit later in the show.
But right now, we're going to check into the world of fame and fortune.
Now, a lot of people strive to get to this level.
And when they get there, they find out that it's not quite what they thought it was going to be.
I mean, everybody thinks that it only has privilege and no price.
Well, tonight, people like Paul McCartney and Bill Murray will talk about the price you pay to reach the top.
You can have Vanessa Williams' fame.
You can have Jane Fonda fame.
It brings with it great wonder and great luxury.
You can have Jackie Onassis' fame.
The word fame doesn't, to me, doesn't mean that someone's really great.
It just means they're famous.
Pia Zadora fame.
You know, talk to me the year from now.
We'll say, hi, babe. How are you? Nice to see you, Nancy.
Glad you could drop by. Let's chat.
You should really try and find out why you want to be famous.
I never did. What are all the attention? It's the fortune that I was after.
You just want to see a picture in the paper or your face on television?
Or is there something more?
We rarely think of a celebrity in terms of what they want.
We think about what they are. Their smiles brighter, their personalities more vivid, their talents fascinating.
If they do happen to have the same split ends, broken toasters and annoying relatives as the rest of us,
somehow theirs seem a lot more interesting. Or are they?
With the fame comes a certain image.
But if the image isn't quite real, do they still have to live up to it just for us?
John Travolta says while image may create certain pressures, for him the problem is not all that terrible.
Well, there's one image, though, that the two of you have had for a long time, and that is you both sex symbols.
Yeah.
I don't think of myself as a sex symbol.
You're a sex symbol.
Do you like that?
I don't mind it.
Growing up not thinking I was very much of one, I think it's fun for everyone to think you are one.
It's kind of funny.
What I find most interesting about that is that most people find that peculiar that someone likes it.
And I thought, why wouldn't they?
Some do enjoy the image and adulation that comes with it, the autographs we pursue, the pictures we would die for.
But stars are not always willing participants, and that makes you wonder, isn't that what they wanted when they wanted to become stars?
Why is it that celebrities work all their lives to be well known and then walk around with dark glasses on to avoid being recognized?
I feel a little awkward complaining about it, because it's sort of like a fighter coming back to the corner and saying,
hey, that's how they're trying to hit me, you know?
It comes with the territory.
I go to a beach and I end up, you know, signing autographs.
When you start to dance, you forget that you're in a public place.
You know, you whisper something, and all of a sudden you see people looking at you, or somebody takes your picture, and you think, oh, God, maybe we shouldn't dance in public.
Phil's a blusher, I'm not.
You know, his face just gets beet red, and I can see where sometimes he'll say, let's not dance here.
They wouldn't ask you for the autograph if they didn't like you, and so it's really nice in your touch that they want to do it.
But it's also like, okay, now I would like to just take a swim.
And when we see those celebrities, we expect them to be very self-assured.
But even Paul McCartney says he keeps singing, writing, and acting because he's never that confident.
Any reinforcement and encouragement I can get on those three fronts, I'll take.
Do you really need reinforcement or encouragement?
Yes, yes, like all of us. Do you ever meet a person who didn't?
Teddy Pendergrass knows that all too well. A devastating car accident left him paralyzed and took him out of the spotlight for quite a while.
But today he has a new hit record, and he says new knowledge of what happens when you lose your star status.
I've lost a lot of friends, people I thought were friends.
There is that, well, Teddy, you once were, Teddy, now you're not.
And we're going to move, we're going to shift over to someone else who is now.
And it hurts.
But for some, the discovery of fame is still fresh.
We had gone to the Shirley MacLaine opening, and the next day in the paper it said that a lot of celebrities came out to see Shirley MacLaine's opening.
Elizabeth Taylor, John Travolta and Mary Lou Henner, who were off on their way to the Caribbean for a big vacation, plus Gregory Peck and Sean Connery and Esther Williams.
I said to John, I said, you know what I feel like reading this, it's like two tourists who went to one of those newspaper places.
And there was like this whole thing written with celebrities' names and then you insert the two names.
I said, my God, I can't believe that it's our life.
So what is fame?
As we watch careers gloriously made and spectacularly lost, we know there's no way to put it simply.
It's different for everyone.
But for all of us, fans and celebrities, it is always a seductive fantasy.
It feels good. It definitely feels good.
But it's not all fun.
Get your tables in a restaurant.
You don't have to stand in line.
Other than that, I would give it about a three, three and a half.
I'm always working to stay on top.
That's the biggest thing of it all.
Wearing shorts into a nice restaurant is a kick.
It's a great kick.
I advise start them for anybody who enjoys that kind of thing.
Fame and fortune, you know, on a lesser scale, much lesser.
We'll skip the fortune bit.
But it's interesting since I've been on the show, I've been in a few restaurants and people have stopped me halfway through a bite saying, aren't you?
It's hard to keep in mind that it's all part of it.
I just want to know though what rule there is that you have to wait until somebody has their mouth full of something.
Now, how many times it happens every time?
It happened yesterday.
When people come up to say something to you, I have always put a fork full of something in my mouth.
Stay with us.
When PM returns, we are going to meet a doctor who is about to become famous.
PM Magazine.
Welcome back to Monday's PM Magazine and the Branch Avenue Fire Station.
Right now we're going to meet a man who does not fit the stereotyped image of his profession.
He's a doctor, but to look at him, you would never know it.
His name is Red Duke, and with his long shaggy hair and Texas draw, you'd find him more at home on the range.
But that's not true.
He is a very prominent big city surgeon.
A hundred years ago, the West was won by men like these.
Tough, rugged, independent, like Smiley and Smokey, and Red.
Now, Red ain't your typical cowboy.
In fact, the truth be known, Red ain't much of a cowboy at all.
Just looks like one.
What Red does better is this.
Mercy, may mercy be upon you.
This is Dr. James H. Red Duke, Jr. of Herman Hospital, Houston, Texas, M.D., B.S., B.D., professor of surgery,
and, oh yeah, TV news doctor in some 40 cities around the country.
Most of all, take care of yourself.
From the University of Texas Health Science Center, Houston, I'm Dr. Red Duke.
Now, you might wonder how a guy with a twang from the lower Rio Grande
and a face that's been run over by a couple of saddle broncs
is the most watched and respected TV doctor since Marcus Welby.
Well, I wasn't a professional.
I mean, they looked at one name I remember, Peter Graves.
Then they talked, somebody suggested my name, and it took me, and I figure the reason it took me is because I'm so cheap.
It's so flat down here that you can be, if you put up a tube before you back up water, 100 miles.
Born in Ennis County, Texas, 57 years ago, Red never tried to run away from where he came from.
He's the leading trauma doctor in the Southwest
and is responsible for developing the life-flight helicopter system now used around the country.
Yet, Red doesn't quite fit into the mold of the Mercedes-driving, golf-playing, tax-sheltered medical man of the 80s.
I mean, I like the way it sounds, the way it smells, and the way it feels.
I grew up in the country.
I've not ever gotten that far away from it, don't ever intend to be, it's just what I am.
And there's a lot of stuff to be said about downtown Houston.
Beautiful city.
Boy, it's just that a good friend of mine one time said Houston's a place that if you want to get up to bat, the show will throw you the ball.
All the rain, windy morning, that's a day's not important, that old shirt, I've been wanting to buy.
Red's time at bat usually comes on Friday nights in the trauma center of Houston's Herman Hospital.
Now, this is Dr. Do.
Hi.
It's a 27-year-old male, getting shot in the left cheek and the left neck.
That's a bad place.
So I called maintenance and got a pair of fast-required sterilizers and boom, got it out.
Very important for the captain to be cool and to know what he's doing.
I always tell him that when I quit cutting up and quit talking, I got it, I'm having to think, and that means we've got, we may be in deep grass.
He usually does it, hon.
I know it hurts, baby.
Hey, sugar.
How you doing?
I really care a lot about these people, and I get all mixed up with them and so forth, and then it breaks my heart to tell somebody they've got a malignant problem.
But then I turn right around and I think the way I handle it is me and that patient team up against that cancer and we're going to have that.
Ooh, Lord, I'm glad I haven't gotten that many patients like this.
You know what I mean? They'd kill me. I couldn't make rounds.
Let me put this back under your foot.
An avid conservationist, Red is involved in reintroducing bighorn sheep back into West Texas.
Bring some sheep, baby.
Though an enigma as he vacillates back and forth between living in the past on the trail and sowing people up as a big city surgeon, Red Duke remains true to the Texas roots firmly attached to his boots.
He's been able to capture the best of two worlds and successfully blend them together into a unique lifestyle.
Dr. James H. Duke, a cutter of the finest kind, and Cowboy Red Duke, a modern-day Marlboro man.
Oh, the worst thing I think a person can do is take themselves seriously.
You know, the real goal is to take a real big pile of manure and make a garden green with it.
If you can do that, man, that's a trick.
From the University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston, I'm Dr. Red Duke.
Like Willie says, stay a little longer. See ya.
Let's go, baby.
Make up the doctors and lawyers.
Now, old Red is no flash in the pan.
He has been doing his television show for two and a half years now, and it all began when he started working on a local TV medical show.
You know, those things happened, too, because his popularity grew, then a syndicator came to see him, and now he is seen all across the country.
Stay with us when we come back. We're going to take you on an aerial tour of the Garden Island of Kauai.
Welcome back to Monday's PM Magazine.
Right now we're going to travel down to the island of Kauai in the Hawaiian Islands.
Now, Kauai is touted as being the most beautiful garden spot in the island chain, except most of it is inaccessible.
Well, right now we're going to get aboard a helicopter to look at some of this natural beauty.
Each year, more than 350,000 visitors tour the Hawaiian Islands by helicopter.
More than half of those here are the Garden Island of Kauai.
Now, the ride of your life will cost you between $75 and $100 for a one-hour flight.
But as the man says, it's worth every penny of it.
It's a very rewarding experience, and the island never really remains the same.
The island of Kauai really is like a little microcontinent.
The island is only 32 miles in diameter, but we've got about six major terrain changes.
We're now entering the Waleali Crater Region.
This area sits basically at the center of our island, but when we go into this place,
it's just anywhere from 1,500 to 3,000 foot of solid stone walls towering up above you.
Now, up on top of the crater region is the Alki Swamp Region.
It's one of the world's highest elevated swamps.
It's roughly right at one mile high.
It's the wettest spot on the earth as far as recorded rainfall,
and they usually average about 450 plus inches of rain a year.
That translates into 37 feet of rainfall every year, and two years ago they recorded 55 feet.
The rivulets of rainfall from the crater have formed dramatic waterfalls throughout the island.
This waterfall on the North Shore plunges 3,500 feet to the sea,
and this one will look familiar to fans of TV's Fantasy Island.
Over the millennia, the water below the falls has worn deep gorges in the cone of the crater,
and in this case, forming a vast canyon.
We're now entering the Waimea Canyon area, and the canyon is a very unique region,
and it's a very excellent example of the erosion process that affects all the Hawaiian islands.
The beauty out here is just unbelievable in this canyon region.
It was so pretty that the noted author Mark Plain described it as the Grand Canyon of the Pacific,
and I've always found it pretty appropriate, and most of my customers have, too.
Now, we're getting ready.
We're just about down to what I consider our most unique region here on the island.
I'm talking about the Nepali coastline.
Now, the word Nepali in the Hawaiian language means the cliffs,
and just momentarily here you're going to see why they named this region.
As we slowly fall off this 3,000-foot hillside, you'll look down and see these straight vertical cliffs
that pound and white surf down through here.
This area is completely inaccessible outside by a helicopter boat
or an ancient hiking trail put in by the early Polynesians.
The Nepali coastline, these cliff features are unbelievable.
Some of the prettiest stone features I've seen in my flying anywhere in the world.
Here, we fly up valleys so remote that early tribes lived here undetected for centuries.
Their ancient stone walls and terraces, now overgrown, can still be faintly seen.
But modern men have found this eroded remoteness captivating on film.
This natural archway was featured in the opening of the most recent King Kong movie,
and this deserted beach was immortalized in South Pacific.
The hour flight passes all too quickly,
but the memories the passengers will take with them last much longer.
Wow, they're just great. Fantastic. I've never seen anything like it before in my life.
I've always wanted to take a helicopter ride, and this is my first one,
and I think it was just magnificent.
Fantastic. That was my second trip, and it was just as good this time as the first time.
Perhaps it was Kauai's splendid isolation from the other islands
that, for the early Polynesians who first settled here, it was a mystical island.
And after seeing Kauai in such a unique way,
it's not hard for the modern visitor to see that Kauai by air still is a spiritual adventure.
Next up, we'll take you on a canine casting call.
Welcome back to Monday's PM Magazine, where I would like you all to meet Coco,
the official mascot here at the Branch Avenue Fire Station.
Actually, doing pretty well right now. She wasn't too fond of the lights just a moment ago,
but Coco, you're feeling pretty good right now, aren't you? Aren't you?
Say yes. Say yes.
Right now, we're going to take you to look at some more animals there
down at the University of Hartford, where they are about to stage La Boheme.
Now, they need one performer who won't sing.
The casting call is a little unusual.
It's a sight that could cause an opera buff to barf,
but here they are, dogs trying out for a part in the Hart School of Music's production of La Boheme.
Dozens of potential prima donna pooches have answered an open casting call here at the University of Hartford.
The production of La Boheme calls for a dog in one scene.
No lines, mind you, just a cameo role.
Still, some of the contenders look pretty nervous.
What they're looking for here is a dog that'll sit pretty and mind his manners in the face of the crowd
and a high B-flat.
As Adelaide Bishop will tell you, the last thing they want is a doggy diva.
A good opera dog has the same qualities as a good opera singer.
Presence, personality, poise, charm, appeal.
The major difference with a dog in opera is that we don't want the dog to sing.
Your passion still must burn for thee.
Why do you not return me?
That's fine, number four. Thank you.
I know you but you're too much in our delights.
If you think these dogs have it rough, save your sympathy for the ladies.
How would you like to sing an aria to an Airedale?
Well, I would like to think it's a beginning. I wouldn't say it's a high point in my career.
It's great. It's different. Something I've never, ever experienced before in my whole entire life.
You must be happy.
Your passion still must burn for thee.
Why do you not return to me?
I know you but you're too much in our delights.
If you're an opera lover and you're concerned about this one going to the dogs, just remember,
La Boheme was written by a fellow named Pooch Eany.
Well, actually, in case you're curious, there were two winners, a Shih Tzu and a Cockapoo.
They alternated performances. Everybody said they were marvelous.
Simply marvelous. As we mentioned in the beginning of the show,
the Branch Avenue Fire Department is one of the largest in the state of Rhode Island.
That's because it has two engine and ladder trucks. It has one of three city rescue units,
which just happened to go out on a call a few moments ago, a shiny brass pole,
their own Dalmatian who you met earlier by the name of Coco, and the city's finest.
That's right. And there would have been more smiling, gorgeous faces to look at here,
but they did go out just a second ago on the rescue unit.
You guys, this is your truck we're standing in front of, right?
That's right.
It's the one you're proud of, right? You made us change the shot around so we could have their truck in it.
Join us tomorrow night on PM Magazine.
We're going to explore one of North America's great mysteries.
It's Sotsquatch, Bigfoot. Is it a person? Is it an animal? Does it exist? We'll try and find out.
And if you're pulling your hair out trying to figure out what to do with your cabbage patch doll this summer,
not to worry, we're going to take you to Cabbage Patch Camp.
All that and a lot more comes up tomorrow night on PM Magazine.
For right now, good night from the Branch Avenue Fire Station.
Good night, everybody.
That's for dinner.
Good night.