Paula says that Steve ran off and left her practically penniless.
She had fallen in love with him and that he conned her out of everything that she owned
practically.
Steve says not true.
I just asked Steve before the break if he'd ever used a credit card.
He says he hadn't used your credit card.
He would tell everybody that he was a general contractor.
What he was was a flim flam man.
He would go to rental stores, but he didn't have any capital in order to rent the equipment
with.
He asked me, Paula, would you just let me use your Citibank or your Bank One just to
put down as a deposit?
I'll pay for the equipment when I take it back and things like that.
Well, since it wasn't his money, he never even worried about taking the equipment back.
So he didn't have to sign.
Paula, when did I ever use your credit card?
When did I ever sign your credit card?
They just went ahead and pushed the charge on through because I had already put up the
credit card.
Then he'd get me to give in person when I stopped the credit card flim.
When did you ever give me any cash?
When?
Hundreds of times.
Never.
Thousands of times.
You're wearing the same suit you were wearing three years ago.
My son doesn't even live with me anymore because I had to move out.
I followed him to Birmingham after he had to leave Destin in such a hurry.
I moved my family, my son, to Birmingham.
I go up there, he robs me while I go up to Virginia to pick my son up.
Oh, rob you?
I come back, his sister and him rob me again.
How do you figure that?
My family gave you a place to live.
They take you in, give you plenty of money, take you shopping, spend hundreds of dollars
on you.
I worked six days a week.
Yeah, six days a week for what?
The entire time I was there.
I didn't even know how much money you made.
My son, my his father.
Never paid rent, never paid help buy groceries.
I got WTs.
I wish you would.
Do you have any WTs?
Yes, I do.
From ever holding a job?
Yeah, Destin.
Fort Walton.
Sure.
Yeah.
Sure.
Well, let me just say this.
Let's not get hung up on the semantics here because you're saying you never used the credit
card because I know people who do this.
Somebody swindled me out of a check once and because they didn't get any money, they tried
to forge a check.
Because they didn't get the money, they said-
They put it right against your credit card.
Right.
Well, I didn't get the money.
Well, the point is, but you tried to forge the check.
So my question to you is, Steve, maybe you didn't physically have the credit card in
your hand.
Uh-huh.
He had the numbers.
Okay.
No.
Okay.
Never.
Did you ever take advantage of her financially?
Never.
She had nothing.
She didn't even have a car until she after she had a beat up Honda, she never had a new
car until after she moved.
Let me just say this, Steve, in good conscience, you can say this and let me ask you this.
You or not, you have ever taken advantage of Paula financially?
Never.
Now, the other girl who bought me the truck and stuff, yes.
Because this is a question, Gia.
We were curious about your family's giving her all this money.
You were saying your family took care of her and took her shopping and all that.
And you had very much, much money when you were saying earlier, you had very much cash
earlier.
Remember you saying that?
Right.
Didn't need any checks.
The question then is-
Steve, what happened to all that good money you had?
How come my girlfriend bought you a truck?
Paula.
Can you buy your own truck?
Well, at that time I was waiting for a contract to come through.
I had like-
Oh, yeah.
I did have my own vehicle.
Okay.
So have you ever, Steve, conned anybody out of any money?
Let's say you didn't con Paula.
You're saying you didn't con Paula.
Right.
So have you conned anybody?
Yeah.
Okay.
The girl with the truck.
How'd you get the truck?
I told her he loved her, that I had turned him into the Internal Revenue Service.
So he-
Oh, I'm so-
You know so much about it.
She's never even met the woman.
Sharon and I have talked and talked.
He told her that I had turned him into the IRS, and that he needed a place to stay, and
the IRS had taken his car and all this other stuff.
And she fell for him hook, line, and sinker too.
Oprah?
Hmm.
I don't see how-
What?
Just admit it.
And he's-
Hold on.
You're not on mic yet.
Tripping over everybody's feet.
Pull your feet in.
What?
I don't see how, if he swindled somebody out of a car, how he goes to the next relationship
and it doesn't even admit that he swindled at all.
You can go from one relationship where you would get somebody to buy you a car.
You must be smooth.
Are you smooth, Steve, would you say?
I don't know.
I guess I've never had no problem getting women.
Okay.
Next question.
Are you, Steve, are you pleased or are you proud of the way you handle yourself with
women?
Are you proud of Arya?
Not really.
I really did love Paula and I've been trying to get a hold of her and everything, even
after everything went down.
So you did love Paula?
Very much.
I still love her.
Why did you make the-
Why?
Why did you-
He does.
He still calls all the time.
Let me ask you this then, why did you make that face when Paula, we were talking about
Paula loving you?
You said-
I don't think she never did.
I mean, her car got stolen and everything.
I guess it was having sex in the car, they jerked her out, her and her boyfriend stole
her car, drove it in the river and I was still there.
After this is-
I was a victim of random violence in my car.
You guys were having sex in the car, they jerked them out, they stole her car, the police
department-
At a BP gas station.
It was having sex in a BP gas station in West Palm Beach, they jerked them out of the car,
stole her car.
He believes this.
He honestly believes this.
Yeah, it was true.
Uh-huh.
They jerked her out of the car, stole her car.
What does that got to do with you taking her money though?
She had no money.
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I wanted to know why you never took him to court, why you never pursued this if he used
your credit cards.
Well, in Destin, it was because I had already signed the things, you know, believing that
he was going to pay for them.
And so I had no legal recourse-
Hold on.
Let's see.
I've never even seen any of your credit cards.
When he would outright steal my checks and forge them, I did.
I went to the chief of the Birmingham police.
His family is all just like he is.
Oh, you think so?
And he told me, the chief of Vestavia Hills, which is right outside of Birmingham, he told
me, he says, you can pursue this, Paula, plus they had robbed me.
But all that's going to happen is it's going to bring more trouble.
They're just going to keep ruining your life.
The best thing for you to do is leave.
I called my ex-husband.
He came to pick up my son.
I went to West Palm.
He begged me to take him with me.
Oh, beg-
He said he would change.
He came down there.
Said he would change.
He came down there.
He stayed with me at my sister's house for like two months.
And you obviously believed him.
I paid for you for us to stay at your sister's house.
I have to admit.
Okay.
I have to be honest with you.
Moving on.
I'm moving on to another story.
But you had a good point.
I remember.
I forgot what it was, but it was pretty good.
I heard it during the commercial, and I thought, yeah, that sounded pretty good.
You wanted to say what?
What?
I'd like to know, what was she getting out of the relationship?
Because I find that people who are conned are usually looking for something for nothing,
and it backfires on them.
I think I just... I had been divorced about six years, and I had been living with my son
by myself.
She was very well taken care of.
And I worked a lot, and I fell for him.
I don't know.
I just fell for him.
A lot of good sex, I guess, basically.
That was it.
Well now.
He should be just a gigolo.
When they first met, my next guest, when they first met, she said she was a contessa from
Spain, and that her half a million dollar dowry would keep them comfortable for the
rest of their lives.
So Henry Quartz married the contessa, only to discover that he had been conned by the
contessa.
Is that true?
Is that what happened?
Yes.
It went something like that.
I met her in a nightclub owned by my brother at the time.
And I walked in there, and she stood out from the crowd, dressed differently, and she was
very beautiful.
And she seduced me, right there.
She seduced you?
She looked at me and started dancing, you know... I don't know, she just seduced me
in her look, just like this.
Just that?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't think she had that many drinks, Oprah.
But we went back to our place, and the next night I went back to the club, met her again.
We went out again, back to our place.
The next day when we woke up, she started telling me how she was recently divorced.
She received a $60,000 a month allowance from her family in Spain, and she started showing
me documents, newspaper clippings, a front page of a newspaper in Colorado where her
sister had lived, who was married to a prominent attorney in that town, and it was a picture
of her with her children on the front page, and the write-up was that she was a contessa
from Spain, and she was in town to visit her sister.
The newspaper proved to be a little bit credible to me.
It showed a little credibility in her story.
Okay, so when you find out that she wasn't, was it a fake newspaper article?
No, it was an original... it was a newspaper, a regular newspaper from a town in Colorado.
Okay, so was she a contessa or was she not?
Absolutely not.
She wasn't?
No.
And how'd you find out?
Oh, that was about three months later.
And what had she taken you for?
About $6,000, but she promised me a half a month.
The story goes like this, this is the deal.
Now, you don't meet someone full in love and are married within a two-week period.
Is that what you were?
We were married and within two weeks after the day we met, she wanted her $60,000 a month
allowance.
I wanted a half a million, a half a million gift, you know, once she remarries, and we
could share in it.
Finish the story when we come back.
Okay.
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