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I said, it's chicken.
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We did our show every night from Amarillo,
but during the day, people put on their own show outside the courthouse.
It was a scene to behold from Cal Suits.
And they had cookouts out there, veggie burgers and otherwise.
And there were people singing.
There was even people praying.
It was, as I say, it has been an incredible experience.
One that I could not have gotten through.
I would have to say this.
I have come through this entire experience with such respect for the justice system when it works.
I have learned so much about, learned more than I wanted to know about lawyers,
but learned so much about the justice system itself.
And every day, one of the bailiffs, Willie, would say,
God bless the United States and this honorable court.
And I truly feel that way coming out of this experience.
I could not have gotten through it.
I had one of the greatest lawyers, not just in terms of his ability to argue the case and to defend the case,
but just a great heart, because I try to draw to myself people who have the same kind of spirit that I do,
who understand that I wasn't in it to do anything other than to show that we had done nothing wrong,
and that I really meant that.
And it wasn't about the money, because we could have settled a long time ago,
and not gone through all of this aggravation.
And Chip Babcock, I owe so much to him.
As you all know, when you see it on L.A. Law, there's only like a couple of people. There's Chip Babcock for me, part of my team, Chip Babcock and Phil McGraw.
He was our legal analyst.
And you cannot get through a trial, God help anybody, that doesn't have a great strategist.
And Phil McGraw from CSI in Dallas was our legal strategist, and just one of the most knowledgeable men,
but with such common sense and Philisms, which we cannot say on television, any of them.
And it is Phil who gave myself back to me, because I know you all find this hard to believe,
but when I first started this trial, the thing that was hardest for me was to be myself.
And that was Phil's challenge, to work with me and to try to get, and I was so thrown by that,
because I was like, I know how to be myself, that's what I get paid for doing.
What was the biggest challenge, do you think, Phil?
I think with you, people didn't understand the level at which this reached you inside.
You know, we talk many times about the fact that to whom much is given, much is expected.
I don't think people understood how seriously you take what you do.
And I think it puts you in shock to have people saying the things about you that you knew in the core of your soul were not right.
And so it was difficult for you to walk in and be who you are with all of those accusations around you.
And when you finally took your power back and said, I am who I am,
and no plaintiff's lawyer is going to tell me I'm not, it was a snap.
Yeah, it was a snap.
Well, Phil has done, how many of these cases have you done?
A whole bunch.
Media cases like this. And Phil just told me yesterday, after we won, that 80% of them are lost.
80% of the cases are lost at the trial level.
And then 80% of those are reversed at the appellate level.
But we didn't think you needed to know everything about them.
Yesterday, after we won, I said, 80%? You knew that all along? Oh my goodness.
Why do you think we won this one?
Number one, because we were on the right side of the facts.
And number two, because you were willing to dig in and not cave.
I mean, in Chicago, you told me several months ago, you said this is about a whole lot more than me,
and there's got to be some meaning or purpose to this.
And if somebody's going to stand up for free speech in America, it might as well be me.
Might as well be me.
Might as well be me.
But about three weeks in the trial, I thought, well, Lord, you could have found somebody else. I don't know.
But as I was saying, thank you so much, Phil McGraw. Thank you.
And Chip Babcock, did you, I know you argued this case, and I sent you a note.
I'm sending a lot of notes, but I sent you, one of my favorite notes to Chip was when they were doing the rendering.
They were showing all the dead animals in the rendering plant.
And Chip made a joke that I didn't like.
And I sent him a note, Chip, please do not make jokes about dead animals. You are not funny.
And I know the cow pictures coming up with Milt and the cow head.
Do not make a joke about the cow head. Love, Oprah.
And right, you're in the middle of arguing and you get this note, favorite note.
It's my wife's favorite note.
You are not funny.
Because she doesn't think I'm funny at all.
What I wanted to ask you, though, Chip, though, I know you argued this case and, you know, ultimately won.
We won.
And I sent you a note after your closing arguments that said, you know, brilliant. It was one bright and shining moment.
Did you believe all along we were going to win?
Oh, I thought we were on the right side of the facts and the right side of the law.
But like Phil said, you know, you lose 80 percent of these cases are lost at trial.
And so I was worried and concerned.
And we were in a community that depends on the cattle industry.
And that's always a concern.
But this jury, not just the jury, but the big group that we selected from, the people that had a real bias, took themselves out of the mix.
And we wound up with 12 wonderful people who ruled on this discussion.
Weren't you amazed the first day when we were picking the jury, the 65 people to choose from?
And that's what was so amazingly truthful.
People stood up and said, well, I have to tell you, I've been cowing all my life.
The judge at one point said and one guy said, Judge, my mind's pretty well made up about it already.
And people excused themselves.
And there were a couple of Oprah fans that we were sad to see go.
Yes. When one woman said, I watch her all the time. I just love her.
I go, please, why did you have to tell the judge?
Amazing. I wanted to just, as I said, because you're the woman we want.
I sent, as I said, Chip a note about his closing arguments and they were a total of thirty four and a half minutes.
But this is some of what he said to the jury as we closed.
I'm looking for leaders on this jury to say no to that.
There may be suggestions to you that we should compromise.
We should find that Oprah and Howard Lyman, who was also on trial, said something false and intentionally so.
But let's just pay them a little bit of money.
I am looking for leaders on this jury to say no, to say that the First Amendment is not for sale.
That free speech in this country is not for sale.
Oprah has been with you for each and every minute and every hour of these five plus weeks.
And if we don't get to a verdict, that's OK.
I was thinking it is. She'll come back and she'll do it again.
Do not compromise. Ladies and gentlemen, the First Amendment is not for sale.
Free speech is just is not just the ideas that we agree with and what we like.
Free speech is protecting the ideas that we like the least.
They're the ideas that we have to protect the most because, ladies and gentlemen, this is America.
And Oprah Winfrey is one of the shining lights that sheds light onto the darkness of so many people's lives.
And if they can silence Oprah and if they can silence Howard Lyman, who are they going to silence next?
Who are they going to silence next, ladies and gentlemen?
And then we showed the tape of the E. coli father who'd lost his son.
The next guy they come after, ladies and gentlemen, is a poor man who has the courage to share a painful experience
about his family and his son so that others won't make the same mistake that he does.
And if they can muzzle Oprah Winfrey and if they can muzzle Howard Lyman through you,
rich and powerful men can then come after Mike and Diana Noe.
And then the judge said, your time is up, counsel. Be seated.
But before he sat down, Chip Babcock said, and they can come after us.
And that is my opinion. It was brilliant, Chuck.
What happened during the break to court?
There was never a dull moment.
Good afternoon. I'm Nadine Woodward.
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There's so many things you can do with a cow.
The cartoon has had a field day.
I love this one.
I think Oprah's lawyers have stacked the jury and it's a jury full of cows.
Okay, that was good.
More bad news boss, Oprah badmouthed us on our show today.
That's Bill Gates in Microsoft.
Okay.
This is one of my favorites.
Okay, so there's an attorney arguing with the cow on trial.
You say that Oprah may have hurt your reputation but possibly saved your life.
The cow is wearing a t-shirt that said, I'm not mad at anybody.
Oh, this is another one of my favorites.
Okay, which one of you hung the Go Oprah poster in the barn?
Oh, this is my all-time, all-time favorite.
It says, okay, there's a little sign that says Lubbock 45, Plainview 94, Oprah Rilla 167.
And the little farmer in the truck is explaining to his son,
it's a long story started with a television show back in 96.
Headline writers milked it too.
These were Oprah's a ham at beef trial.
Love that.
That's Tim Bennett and I, Tim Bennett, President and Harpo.
Lawyers for both sides in Oprah case told us stop making faces during trial.
It wasn't me, Judge Mary Lille.
Any way you slice it, Texan's beef with Oprah is baloney.
That was Ellen Goodman's column.
Love that.
And don't have a cow over Oprah.
Love some of those.
There were no cameras allowed in the courtroom.
And I'm thankful for that because I would, oh, that meant a lot of artist renderings.
I got a kick out of seeing how I would look from day to day.
Oh, this is a particularly good look.