Well, this is Joe and Eileen Price.
This is a reunion you're having of a group
that Joe is in the service with in the Philippines.
What group was this, Joe?
Well, this is B Company, 31st Division.
These guys were in B Company from Camp Shelby, Mississippi
through New Guinea and the Philippines.
And I know them.
But there's 15 of us here, eight guys and their wives.
And, uh.
Well, Joe, aren't you the one that started this last year?
Not really.
Bert Koeman right here in the blue started.
Come on over here and tell us about it.
Bert is from Wisconsin, Hammond, Wisconsin, in Ella.
And Bert's the guy that really got it started.
Decided to write and try and find as many of them
as you could to get them together.
Is that right?
Right.
I called out.
I knew where a few of them were.
And I got them.
And we looked around.
There's my address book a little bit.
And we found a few more.
So we think there was eight of us here last year, too.
We had a good time.
We thought we'd do it again.
Dan, where's Ruth?
Are you up here?
Are you retired now?
Yes.
We farmed for 39 years, six years in Minnesota.
And the rest of the time in Wisconsin,
we retired a year ago last spring.
We still live on a house on the farm.
And what town is that?
240-acre farm.
My son rents it and all.
What town is that?
This is in Hammond, Wisconsin.
Hammond, Wisconsin?
We have six children, five boys and a girl, 15 grandchildren.
It's been a pretty good life.
After all the troubles, huh?
Right.
Dan is from Wichita area.
Dan was a VAR man right here.
Joe, what kind of a man?
Dan is what you said that you worked for?
Coleman Company.
How many years?
Retired.
How many years were you with Coleman?
About 38 years.
As an inspector, was it?
Inspector and running press.
Last eight, 10 years I was in it.
And I was full of inspectors.
Uh-huh.
And I retired about two years and a half ago.
My wife Ruth here, she worked for the county courthouse
for the deserters office.
She retired about five, six years ago.
And I live on a 117-acre farm and raise a few cattle.
And I've got a couple of ponds and raising cat fish.
Got a son that works for Rustex Ford.
He's a finance manager.
And then I got a daughter that's her husband's dentist.
And they live in Hawke Springs, Arkansas.
I keep kind of busy on the farm.
Well, that's great.
We try to get together here every year.
Joe and Bert have done a good job of planning this so far.
So that's about all I got to say.
This is Al Lor and Elmer.
Elmer and Al Lor.
They're from Wichita, too, is that right?
Yep.
And we live on 9821 Backland, Wichita, Kansas.
And I worked for a drop-in in there
and did things for about 22 years with feed mill
and fabrication.
And I retired January the 1st, 1985.
I've been retired over two years.
And enjoying the retirement.
Do you have any family?
No, we never had any children.
We enjoy the get-togethers up here.
We've seen that in the line of that as it seems for 40 years.
Well, that's great.
That's great.
That's about it.
You want me?
Yeah.
Tell us all about it, Leo.
We didn't find him.
Well, my last name's Logan.
Oh, I see.
OK.
Come on.
And I didn't go through training with these folks.
I joined them in Oral Bay in New Guinea.
And I was with them till I got wounded over there.
And going home.
And then we went to get a telephone.
Worked for General Motors in Dayton, Ohio.
And my address is New Lebanon, Ohio.
Got 40 years of service with General Motors.
And I've got a couple more years I'm going to carry out.
My two children are old enough to have a good job.
I got one freshman in college.
And my son is a junior in high school.
After he graduates, I think I'll retire.
Get your picture taken.
You not saying anything?
All right.
Ask us a question.
We're in the Kansas City area.
So we're lucky to have them.
They're pretty close by.
We get to visit every now and then.
Telephone business.
Huh?
Telephone business.
Telephone business.
Right.
We're going to get together otherwise.
Right, Joe?
Yeah.
We have two children.
Daughter and son.
Three men and son.
Are you all living around Kansas City area?
My daughter lives in Leftworth.
My son lives in Overland Park.
Oh, that's close by.
Neither both of them are.
Joe's retired to General Motors.
Oh, another General Motors man.
We've got three of them here.
Yeah.
Huh.
Oh, three of them.
Is that right?
No wonder they aren't driving any Japanese cars.
That's the second reason.
Is that right?
That's one reason.
That's a good reason.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sure enough.
Let's see.
That's about it.
That's about it.
Oh.
You don't need to hide.
Oh, the Canada Kennedy.
And this is Kennedy.
Two stars.
Another General Motors man.
I just put in 37 years.
Where?
Kansas City area?
Right.
Retired two years ago.
Three years ago.
Three years ago.
Three years ago.
The youngest one was last year.
Well, I didn't say college.
College.
University.
University.
University.
University.
You got a couple more years yet before you retire, you think?
No, I retired two years ago.
Oh, two years ago.
How about that?
I put in 37 years there.
What do you do to occupy your time now?
As much as anything.
You mean she doesn't keep you busy?
No, I'm busy all right.
The honey-doos?
Yeah, I actually set up a house.
Do a little bit of traveling, not too much.
Uh-huh.
He puts a new roof on and he paints the house.
Things like that.
Well.
Things that we never got around to.
Well, you got the time to do those things now.
That's the retirement.
Uh-huh.
We're not retired, really.
We're working.
We just get tired quicker.
Yeah.
Charlie, Charlie.
You feel like the little thing that you do?
No, no.
Come on.
I told you this idea I wouldn't even come in.
Well, he can do it after you're off camera.
Yeah, after you're off camera, Charlie's got to do this.
Okay.
Where are you from, Charlie?
I am from, my name is Charles Hunter and this is my wife.
Don't lie like you did in Army.
I am from Togginoc, the Kansas.
I'm in the lumber business there and I've been in the past 40 years.
I have four daughters there in Togginoc.
Three daughters in Togginoc, one daughter in Texas and I have five grandchildren.
Are you still in business?
Yes, sir.
Aren't you about ready to retire?
Well, my wife would like for me to retire, but I'm still going.
Still going.
Tell him the truth now, huh?
Tell him you've got her.
You want your day.
What?
He said he wants to.
Are you all right?
Good job.
You just got to do it.
That's a Russian dance, isn't it?
That's all right.
I'm sorry to put you on the spot.
That's so there's some life in the old lumber man yet.
How old are you, Charlie?
I'm 72.
72 and you do that?
You got me beat.
I've got them all out here as a group.
I imagine some of you girls could probably tell some pretty good war stories that you've heard at home.
You don't remember them.
You should have read some of the letters she wrote me when I was over there.
Really?
Would you rather give us a couple passes out of them?
Yeah.
There were some long lonesome days over there.
I wouldn't doubt that a bit.
How long would it take for a letter to get over there?
Two weeks, 30 days?
Thirty-seven days to get there.
Thirty-seven days for a letter.
Oh, for us to get there.
Normally how long would it take before you got your mail?
Three to five days.
Oh really?
That wasn't bad.
The first one I got took a long time.
Well, here comes Gene Buchanan from the Globe.
Gene, you've got a nice bunch here to interview today.
Pardon me.
Bert, do you have a key?
Oh, okay.
We all fought together in the 31st Division.
We fought in World War II and in the 2006.
We all came in the Army about the same time.
Outside of the wounded, we were all here.
We spent 37 months all absolutely in the same company.
We had basic at Camp Shelby Missile.
That was in 1943 and 44.
Then we were on maneuvers in Louisiana.
Camp Pickett, Virginia.
Then overseas in March of 44.
Where'd you go first?
We went to the beginning.
Then to Morat Island.
Morat Island.
We were in retreat.
All of us were in retreat.
We were on Morat Island.
Can you tell us a little bit about what kind of fighting was on?
The fighting we saw was very, very tough.
The living was tough.
We spent 45, 45 we spent.
Many of them were battled for fear.
Lots were killed, lots were wounded.
We lived in top form.
I would say 46, 50, 60.
A lot of them went down.
It was really close.
Someone said back here it was like meeting a brother again.
We haven't seen each other before.
The one fellow that wasn't her last, that was her last,
she was wounded by her own mortars, by a short, a mortar that fell short.
And he didn't know that for 40 years.
He thought it was a, he thought all the time that it was a mortar.
How big a group of battle was that?
We don't really know that because so many aren't living anywhere.
But the company owns 200 at a time.
But we just can't find more than we have.
Except I think there's two that we know of that are old.
How many have you found?
Eight or nine.
Nine I think.
Nine.
So last year, are you the one that was responsible for this?
Yes, I was last year.
Joe Price is more or less this year.
I did start last year I think.
So were there nine of you together?
There was nine of us.
Is there eight this year?
One here?
Maybe the same number.
Okay, we drove 500 miles last year.
Talk about stealing mattress.
Bob was telling you that you did a survey and that you did a survey.
Oh I don't know, I wasn't there but nobody does that in Ores.
Nobody is here with us.
Well, I've paid a way back because they shot at them by their cars.
We'll wait until this deal is over and then I'll give them.
Do you have any favorites?
No, not that I would want to say I have a favorite.
There's no favorite so I don't have a favorite.
I still cry, Joe.
I don't actually cry but there's tears running down my eyes.
For 52 days is more than human life can.
In the jungle, day and night, you don't know where the enemy is.
I think that's what came to me.
I'm sorry.
We had good food which we didn't have.
We had good food.
We had good food.
Mr. Hunter and I, we were left-hand men but all those other men,
we slept in the firetruck together every night.
We lived together almost like man and wife.
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He was leading the way.
Well, from some of the things that I've heard about him since he got out of the service and before he went in, it wouldn't surprise me.
Those are tame compared to some things in the story you tell about him today.
Probably every word of it's truth.
Have Joe tell you the story about putting a canteen full of water above the guy's bed and hooked the light string switch through it so when he pulled the light, the canteen of water came down onto him.
Joe Price?
That's Joe Price.
Why would you do a thing like that?
I haven't thought of it.
No, you're the one who thought of it. I haven't seen the water.
Oh, do you not?
Yeah, that's probably some of the mild ones.
There are probably a few you don't want to mention.
Gene, it's been nice to have you come over and interview these people.
And I'm confident that they enjoyed it and they'll enjoy reading your write-up also.
Thank you.
You know, I'll send it back after we get back.
Oh, you got two buttons there.
Unless you want to pop them off first.
Oh, this book here, maybe I shouldn't have.
Maybe if you want to keep them, just keep them, you'll see them.
Okay, I'll send them back to you and I'll keep them.
Hey, as you drive along here, you might run on somebody.
How you mean now?
I'm going to have you guys sit and pretend you're all with me.
You want all these guys out here.
Hey, Bert.
Where's Bert?
Bert!
He's gathering people up.
We'll sit out here, we're going to be in the newspaper.
I don't know if that's good or not.
Oh, that's good.
I haven't seen it.
What?
Is this your book anyway?
I got a big book that big.
It was born and picked up where I did it.
Oh, really?
Can we get one more in the front?
Are we all here?
Yeah.
That's all?
Tell me your last name for the thing that you in order.
Hunter.
Claiming.
Nogal.
Udon.
Udon.
Yes.
That's what they call me in Normandy.
Pazurco M-E-S-E-R-K-O.
Kennedy.
Price.
Lower. L-O-V-H-R.
Now once you guys in the back sort of lean over and sort of look like you're trying to see that scrapbook.
Is there a picture of Dan in here we can look at?
Well, was that last girl you guys seen across the pond with the big black bushy hair Joe always tells me about?
Oh, yeah.
Look at the scrapbook.
Oh, okay.
We got a big smile on it.
Here's one.
Think of it, yeah.
Oh, no.
Hey, hey.
Oh, yeah.
Reader.
Reader.
Reader.
Okay.
Kind of on the end right there.
Reinhardt.
Thanks.
Have a good time.
Thank you.
Or a radio man.
He is.
Now that the women are all gone, you guys tell me any good stories about the natives over there.
Well, natives didn't wear a whole lot of clothes at times.
And they were kind of dark skinned.
Rather dark.
Joe always told me that.
And curly hair.
Curly hair.
Teeth weren't too good of shape either.
Yeah.
Some of them wore a sack-like dress.
And they carried the babies back here.
Well, the soldiers got to looking at them so well that they kind of pulled that dress up above here and tied him to knots.
He didn't tell me anything about that.
Yeah.
You've got pretty good pictures, but mine kind of faded out a lot.
You know, Weidermann.
We never see him on here.
Weidermann?
Yeah.
I want to see a picture of him.
He's from Baltimore.
Weidermann.
Well, Weidermann, we call him Weidermann, Bill.
He was one of the big six or big eight, whatever it was.
But I don't, you don't ever see a picture of him.
But I just seen his name.
Was he Jewish?
No, I don't think he was.
We had a couple of...
That guy over there, that guy looking like Weidermann.
I'm thinking about him after I got removed out of your station.
Over to the other division.
There was a guy with the name Weidermann in that outfit.
When he started out.
Weidermann.
Weidermann.
You ever see him in that picture, though, maybe?
No, there again.
See, as a native?
Yeah.
Joe keeps him hidden.
He wouldn't show me anything.
Okay.
I got a Bill Weidermann, but it's not all that he's got.
Your name wasn't Bill.
Yeah.
And there's one, there's a Bill Weidermann in the phone book yet, but it's not the right guy.
Same thing, I called for Vernon Lee at the middle south of the quarter or something.
I got a Vernon G. Lee, but it's not the right one.
It's funny, that Lee was trying to go south that way.
Yeah, that was just gone.
I came to my place a couple times.
Yeah, he was around, and now he's just around.
Whoa, if you want to know what the natives look like, here we go.
Here we go.
Ha ha ha.
Let's see if I can get a picture.
Hold it up here, then get a picture.
Where is it?
Ha ha ha.
Right there.
He went on the end?
Yeah.
Oh, any of them there.
Oh, I see.
Oh, there you go.
I got.
Ha ha ha.
I got one of those pictures there at home more than this.
He was sitting on it.
Ha ha ha.
Yeah.
That's a lot better than that other dude, don't they?
Did they object to getting their picture taken?
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Nope.
Nope, this one didn't make it.
I've never heard of a boob so big that they had they could use it for a saddle.
Ha ha ha.
Yeah, I've seen this piece.
He's got the picture.
Ha ha ha.
A lieutenant asked me, he said, you sure you want to send that home?
I said, yeah, I want him to go home.
Ha ha ha.
I think he wanted to keep it.
Yeah, I think he wanted it.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
That's when they sent the mail over there, you know.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
I'm going to see where everything went out of it.
There's Dan right there.
Ha ha ha.
Fire.
Ha ha ha.
This is the Price residence.
Maybe some of you guys will recognize it for being out here when we got together.
For those that haven't been here, it's a few acres out in the country,
a place to scratch around.
I'm retired now, so I have plenty of time to do it.
So, uh, this is kind of a bad time of year for picture taking.
No leaves, there's greenery.
A little bit foggy out today too, this evening.
At least some of you guys will recognize this.
This is Joel's front yard.
Here's a picture of the house, big home.
You probably hear the windmill running.
This is an addition that Joel put on the room on this side.
It has a nice fireplace in it.
There's the old windmill turning.
This is the house, still has a big garage out back that Joel built about 3-4 years ago.
Here's his wood pile, big barn.
I think you might be able to see a pond in the background.
We're going to need a picture of that pond a little bit later here.
And you can see some cattle in the background also.
Let's see if we can't get a little better picture from the other side of the house.
That nice sized pond must be between 2 and 3 acres, Joel?
Not that big, about an acre.
And some of the white-faced herfords.
Two small calves already this spring.
Joel calls this a few acres.
I think he's got about 80 acres here.
He's going right around the east edge of the place.
Well, here we are in the Joe and Eileen Price home this evening.
We've got a picture of them relaxing.
Joel, you've got an article there I believe about something that took place recently.
Well, this is a picture taken by a local newspaper, The Globe.
And you guys have all seen it because I think I've sent one to each of you.
However, on the tape, the audio wasn't real clear because of the wind.
So I thought that we should read this and attach it to the tape so that if you couldn't understand anything on the certain parts of it on the tape,
why would we have it attached to the tape?
This is a picture of us guys over here at our last reunion, the 86 reunion at Sugar Lake.
And Jean Buchanan from The Globe came over and took this picture.
And she interviewed some of the guys.
And so I'll read what it says.
The caption under the picture goes like this.
The 200 men in the 31st Army Division during World War II, nine have been located and eight attended reunion Friday at Sugar Lake.
It was called the Dixie Division because so many were from the south.
Looking at a scrapbook were from left to front Charlie Hunter, Burt Kuhlman, Leo Logo, Dan Hess, in the back row, Joe Mazzurco, Kenneth Kennedy, Joe Price, and Albert Loar.
And then the heading of the little article reads, Veterans of World War II Get Together.
After fighting together in the South Pacific during World War II, members of the 31st Army Division scattered.
Last year, about 40 years after they separated, a group of the veterans gathered for a reunion.
The men enjoyed it so much they did it again this year.
On Friday, eight veterans and their spouses congregated at Sugar Lake to visit.
There was Joe Price from Cummings, Burt Kuhlman from Hammond, Wisconsin, Dan Hess from Valley Center, Kansas, Leo Logo from New Lebanon, Ohio,
Burt Loar from Wichita, Kenneth Kennedy and Joe Mazzurco from Kansas City, and Charlie Hunter from Tonganoxie.
According to Kuhlman, the men spent about 37 months together in the same company.
They took their basic training in Mississippi, went through maneuvers in Louisiana and Virginia, and were shipped out in March 1944 to New Guinea.
The war took them to Moretie Island and the Philippines.
The fighting we saw was very, very rough and living was very tough, he said. In the summer of 1945, we spent 52 consecutive days on the front line.
During that time, they spent 46 nights in foxholes. A lot of our comrades were taken to the hospital because their nerves were shot, he said.
The experience drew the men close. Of the 200 in the company, nine have been located, and Kuhlman, 64, described the reunion as like seeing a brother again.
Price, 64, an Asheson County native who joined the Army in November 1942, said he enjoyed renewing his ties with the men.
Looking at some of these guys I was with, I feel that I was just along for the ride because some of these guys were wounded severely, he said.
Being in the midst of war changes your sets of value and makes a lot of things seem frivolous, Price said.
I think you're less likely to complain about some of the things after an experience like that.
Kuhlman says he cries sometimes when he thinks about the experiences.
52 days is more than the human mind can stand in the jungle day and night. You don't know where the enemy is, he said.
We have it so good, he said. We have such good food, which we didn't there. We know what it is to be hungry or thirsty. We in America have it so good.
I've been interested to meet these men after hearing about them for 40 years and to meet their wives and to find out what really good people they are.
We had Ella and Bert here the first year and enjoyed their visit so much.
And last year we had Al and Eleanor here and Leo Logo and I enjoyed it very much.
Me, too.
Me, too.
Me, too.
Me, too.
It seems like we've come up with some new friends that we should have had 40 years ago.
Well, Joel and Eileen, it was nice to get this on tape and I'm confident that your friends you'll be sending this to will also enjoy it.
We had 58 so far.
And we've got about a few more yet to come in.
There is a few more to come in and this is counting those that we know will be in.
But through the two days we've been here we picked up several others that tend to be with us, at least for the band.
So we should have a pretty nice group and a large group picture.
How many new people are here this year for the first time?
Well, I'd say probably two-fifths of them are new.
Two-fifths? I see. And you don't know where the next reunion is going to be yet?
No, we'll decide that Saturday evening.
It will probably be somewhere in the south and right now we're sort of looking for the Atlanta, Georgia area or somewhere in that area.
Yeah.
We trade off between the north and south and as much as the 31st was the National Guard unit from Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana.
And then as the war progressed and as a lot of the old veterans from the 31st were transferred into other units and started other units,
but then they brought a lot of recruits and volunteers from the north, the midwest, and the Yankee New England area.
Yeah. Well, I understand that these reunions have been getting a little bigger every year, is that right?
Well, in most cases it kind of depends on where we're at, but we've been keeping a good average.
In the beginning, well, nine years ago the guys were nine years younger, so they were able to get around a little better than they are now.
So we lose a few and gain a few and we stand by the same.
Yeah, I found that out with the 167th Company B. We've had some reunions.
We started, I understand the first one, I wasn't there at the first one, they never located me until 1986, and they had one in Atchison, Kansas in 1985,
and there was eight fellows there with their wives and that totaled 16 people.
And about a month after that was over with, one of the fellows located me and I went to the next one,
and I was the only new guy there the next year when one of the other fellows couldn't make it, so we had the same number there in 1986.
Well, we're sort of in a new area in here. Of course, in Niagara Falls, that's northwestern New York, and then the Sertoga Springs is north of Albany,
so we're getting people from the central Midwest, or the eastern Midwest you might call it, from Ohio, and that area,
and then quite a few from Pennsylvania and Maryland and Delaware.
My sergeant's there tonight, Dune Marsh, Company B. He was my assistant squad leader.
I was just a PFC in the squad, and he was from Greensboro, Alabama, and he had a brother that was serving in Company B too in the same platoon,
and he was brother with squad leader of the second squad in Dune, Eugene Marsh, and he was assistant squad leader of the first squad,
so I was in Dune squad, and we've located, I suppose, this is the third platoon now of Company B,
we've located about, oh, I'd say about ten guys out of that platoon alone, and so it's...
It's really a hectic job to try and locate.
But many of them are so much older than me, and they're not able to travel like I am,
and they just won't come to these reunions that's so far away from Kansas. Most of them are from Kansas and Missouri,
and you can't hardly get them over a couple hundred miles away from home, when it comes east like this,
it's just too far for them to go. They want to be able to get there in one day, you know.
That's right.
But when you have to travel 1,200 miles or 1,300 miles, you can't make it in one day,
and it's too big days for them to travel, and none of them wants to fly, and they're scared of...
Yeah, we have a lot of them that don't want to fly. It's generally the women.
Yeah, and some of them, it's just health is not good anymore, and they just can't hold up under the wear and tear of a reunion,
away from home like this.
Well, we welcome any soldier or veteran from any of the 31st units, because we're pretty well organized,
and we sure would like anybody that would like to come to join us.
I know she sends out newsletters quite often, but how many of those are sent out a year? I mean, how many times?
About every three months. Now, there's several that send them out under kind of a franking privilege,
and they send it out about once a month, but we find it gets a little expensive when you've got about 240 on the mailing list.
That's right, 240 people now on the mailing list. That's great, Doug. I didn't realize you had that many on the mailing list.
That's family units.
Yeah, that's just like where I'm from, Company B 167, and I know I gave you several names.
I don't know exactly how many anymore now, but I know there's quite a list.
Well, I sent a special letter out about 27 that you gave me, and I got some replies from three or four that couldn't make it this year,
but maybe next year. It really, not a lot of them, was six or seven hundred miles from northern Alabama up here,
and then we had one come from Tennessee, and he drove six hundred, almost seven hundred miles in one day,
and he was pretty close to getting here Tuesday. But where it's a great distance, we like to fly,
because it takes, like if we went on a bus, it'd take a couple days. Amtrak'd take a couple days from the Midwest.
We had one in Omaha, Nebraska, and we had a pretty good group out, but a lot of them were from Missouri and Kansas and Texas,
so they came generally north.
You have a story every time you send out one of those newsletters. Where'd you get all your information?
Can you remember all that stuff that happened so many years back, that you can write it up in a letter form like that and get it out in the mail?
I'll see how you do it. You've got a good memory, I'll say that.
We used to send out some do you remembers, particularly all the funny things that happened,
and we had quite a story once on our company bootleggers, and he started in North Georgia,
and he kept going overseas, he started out slow, just throwing in all the ripe papayas, mangos, pineapples, he could get a hold of.
And the jungle juice was a little raw there, but as time went on, he was able to accumulate a little money
and trade with the Navy and get sugar and corn mash and so forth, so he had a good operation going.
But toward the end of the war, they were cutting down on, clamping down on these,
it was going to reclamp down so they wouldn't have sold it to some other fellow, and two days later they got him.
Well, Joe, I wanted to ask you about these tours now, so far you had one today,
and I'd like for you to tell me where that was at and where the remaining tours that you got planned are going to be.
Well, we were at Carlisle Barracks, which is down in Carlisle, Pennsylvania,
and it was richly the property of the British in the early days.
It was considered a forward post in which the British were fighting the French and Indians.
And then during the Revolutionary War, General Washington captured a lot of Hessians at Trenton on Christmas Eve
when the Hessians were drunk and brought them to Kylom Barracks to build up the barracks there.
And then during the Civil War, Confederate cavalry came up there and burned down the barracks,
and then they were called to Gettysburg, and this was on the 2nd, I believe, when they burned the barracks,
and by the 3rd, a lot of them were killed in the charges at Gettysburg.
And then following the Civil War, in about 1870-something, they brought in Indians from all over the United States,
and they had an Indian school there, and some of the great famous Olympians came out of there.
There was Jim Thorpe, for one, and Jim was the only person that ever won the...
there were two types of, like the Pentathon, and then there was another one
in which they had to compete in about ten different things, and he was the only one that won both of those.
And years later they found out that in Kansas he had played and got a little bit of money for playing baseball,
and so they took away his Olympic medals, but before he died he got it back because now today there's a lot of professionals in basketball or whatever.
And then during the end of the World War I, it was a treatment place for a lot of the soldiers that were gassed,
and then after World War II it became a war college, and only the very top colonels in the various units of our Army
are invited to come up and take further courses, and most of the generals of World War II
and a number that were in the battle in the Gulf were from this school.
I thought Carlisle.
It was a military school, right?
Yeah, it is now, and of course in there they have archives of most of the Army and Navy and Air Force units that fought in any of the wars.
They have museums that cover the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, and World War I, and the wars since then,
and there's a lot of research going on in there, and we were able to see a lot of that today, and really interesting.
We had a special tour, and then the commander of the post there came down,
and he had a special room in which he had a lot of the information from the 31st Division displayed, booklets and pamphlets and everything else, so we could see that.
Well, what about the rest of the tours?
Well, then we go to Hershey tomorrow until about 11 o'clock, and then we go down to Lancaster in the Amish area,
and we eat there and then we visit an Amish home and we see the countryside and see how they're starting to harvest their crops,
and then the girls are waiting for the chance to visit some of the craft shops and the bakeries and so forth.
Yeah, the Amish people are real good at crafts and bakery and stuff like that, preparing food and things.
Quilts and...
You know, I've been to an area in Ohio that has a group like that, and I think this is going to be something similar to it.
Yeah, it will, and then of course Friday we go to Philadelphia and we get into the celebration of the Bill of Rights.
It's the 200th year when the Bill of Rights were written, and we see the Liberty Bell and a few other historical areas in there and historical documents,
and then we go to Valley Forge and see replicas of some of the quarters at the Worsens troops.
So they'll all be on Friday?
And they'll all be on Friday. And then we go to Gettysburg, and one of the men from the south brought up a lot of Confederate flags and also American flags,
so I don't know whether we're going to divide the group into two and all the Southerners are going to do Pickett's Charge,
and the rest of us are going to stand the ground up on the high ground, but it'll be interesting.
Yeah, well then the Saturday trip is... that's the Saturday trip?
That's the Saturday trip.
That's the Saturday trip, I see. Okay.
This banquet here that you're going to have by Saturday night, now everybody will be here for that, I suppose.
Yes.
Do you think any of these people will be leaving early?
There's only one couple that has to leave because they have a special anniversary to go to within the family, but they're here now,
and they'll be here Thursday and Friday, and then they'll leave Saturday morning because they have to...
well, they live on the Long Island, so it isn't a big trip, but they have to have most of Saturday to get over there.
I know the 31st Division was the Southern Division, and you're from Iowa. Were you always from Iowa, or were you...
No, I was born and raised pretty close to where I live.
Oh, in Iowa?
Yeah, Council Blass.
How long were you in there? When did you get into the 31st Division, do you remember?
Well, it had been the fall of 1942.
Well, back to 1942.
See, that's when the 156th Louisiana Regiment was sent to England, and because they could speak French,
in a way, it was not the regular French, it was the Creole French.
And when they got over finally into France after D-Day, nobody could understand them, they couldn't understand French either.
And then the 124th was part of the regiment that went into Fort Benning and school troops,
and so they only had two regiments left, so they started a 154, and they brought a lot of them from the Midwest,
and some from this area, Pennsylvania, New York, and New England.
And we meshed pretty good together, and they all, they was still the battles between the North and the South.
What rank did you hold when you got discharged?
Well, I was just a sergeant, I was in charge of the parts, we had the parts truck, and I had the parts and tools,
and we kept the vehicles going as much as we could.
Oh, kept the trucks and jeeps and stuff moving.
And we were part of the motor pool.
Yeah, that was an important part, very important part.
Well, Joe, it's been nice talking to you, I noticed my light went out on the camera,
we're still on camera though, but the picture might be a little bit dimmer now.
It's certainly been a pleasure talking to you here this evening.
Well, thank you.
And I'm looking forward to some more of these reunions, and myself,
and I invite you to come to one if we have any up close your way, I'll certainly keep you posted on it.
Yeah, I like that you have it down in the Ozarks.
You said that's close to Kansas, well then.
Yeah, I don't know where we'll be at next reunion.
But we had to skip it this year, it didn't work out right.
So I'm planning on having one somewheres next year, if I can't get anybody to take it, I'll take it myself again.
Or if you can't make it, come join us.
Well, Joe, I don't know, we're almost here by ourselves right now.
Well, I'll see you again tomorrow, and we'll keep it going,
and I'll probably take some more film, but I'm going to take this camera along
and show this to some of the Ohio people next year at our reunion.
If everybody's on hand.
Yeah, I don't know where it'll be or anything.
Thursday, tomorrow morning at 8.15.
Yeah, tomorrow morning at 8.15 is when we board the bus.
Okay, well see you in the morning then, Joe.
Thanks a lot.
Yeah.
Alright.
Thank you.
Nick Bushko here of the anti-tank company, 167 Dempsey.
This is Nick's first reunion, and he's not going to stay for the whole thing,
just a couple of days, right Nick?
Right.
And you came here all the way from Cleveland, Ohio.
Right.
And your daughter with you?
Yeah, she is.
What's her name?
Cindy.
Cindy?
Cindy, yeah.
Well, I understand you're going to be here for a couple of nights,
and you're going to miss the banquet and everything.
I don't know whether you're going to take any tours or not.
You plan on going on tours?
No, we're going back to now.
Well, you'll get to see some of these videos we took here last year
to play at Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.
You took some of them from there?
Yeah, we took pictures.
I got it here, we're going to show them tonight.
You got another man here from the same company, right?
Pete Racer?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he's here somewhere.
I think he went over to the museum over there just a little bit ago.
They're going back over there at 2.30, so I want to go along with them.
That's the reason I want to get a camera here.
Maybe you want to go along with me.
No, I got...
You got nothing else to do, have you?
No, yeah, I always got something to do.
How many years was you in the anti-tank cup?
167?
Let's see, three years, let's see, eight months.
Three years, eight months, all that overseas?
No, no, three years.
About two?
Yeah, three years overseas.
Three years overseas.
Well, that's great.
You came back all in one piece and everything.
Thank the Lord, right?
Thank someone, for sure.
What do you think of this outfit here?
It's nice.
You never got heard of it until you happened to see the ad.
No, I just happened to see your ad.
I kept looking in the...
What, VFW magazine?
Yeah, and I happened to look in ISIS.
Well, hell, I looked for a long time.
Then they had that one in Mississippi.
But that wasn't for this outfit, was it?
Oh, yeah.
Was it?
I was there.
Shelby?
Not Shelby, but the Hattiesburg?
No, it was Jackson, Mississippi.
Oh, Jackson, yeah.
Yeah, I was down there this spring.
Yeah, we had a great time.
We had 350 people there.
Man, you had a lot of traveling, huh?
Oh, yeah, all right.
Well, you plan on coming to Reunion next year?
Sure, darn right.
Glad to have you.
If I'm still kicking a bucket?
Right.
Same with me.
I don't know where I'll be around either, but I hope...
Oh, yeah.
I don't know why not.
I don't know where it's going to be at yet,
but we'll find out fairly night.
I hope it's up there in Dayton.
You hope it's in Dayton.
Well, that's the good news.
Hope it is, too.
Why not?
I know a heck of a guy in every place else.
They're all down south.
Why is it up there?
Well, I don't know how many we'll get.
We've got 90-some people coming here
and be here before things over with,
coming and going.
That's coming and going.
You're going to be here for a couple days.
Who was that lady that came in here from Florida in the blues?
I don't know.
That might have been Marion Hess.
I don't know.
She's from Florida.
Yeah.
And if that was her, she's vice president of the 124th Infantry now.
Oh, is she here?
Yeah.
She's a former member of the
Senate and the Senate's administration.
She's got a speech made out in the bank.
So I'm going to cut this off right here.
Okay.
And I'm going to get ready to go on over to the museum over here.
We're going to go out at 2 o'clock.
You want to go along with me?
No, no, no.
All right.
I'm going to stick around here.
All right.
Thank you.
You're from where?
Lakeland, Florida.
Lakeland, Florida.
Yeah.
And you were in the 31st Division.
What part of 31st Division?
167th.
Anti-tank company.
Anti-tank company.
You know you've got another man here, don't you?
Butch Butchko from the...
I seen old Butch last night.
Yeah, we had quite a little talk.
Yeah, he's Danny.
And I had him on camera just before you came.
Did you?
Yeah.
I'm where he is right now.
How many years were you in the service?
Oh, altogether, about eight.
Eight years?
Yeah.
And you were out overseas in the 31st Division?
Yeah, most of them overseas, too.
Yeah.
Oh, he was in Korean War.
Oh, you were in Korean War also, right?
Yeah.
Overseas?
Yeah, in Korea, yeah.
And then after that you got out.
Yeah, I just wanted more of those.
Yeah.
Well, you was in the 31st Division all the time from the time you first entered the service.
Was you drafted in or you enlisted in the National Guard or what?
No, I was, I was going to say drafted, but I volunteered.
You volunteered.
Yeah, and I was with the 76th Division before I got in the 31st.
Yeah, I was up in Cabocloy, Wisconsin.
And I got transferred from there down to Cap Peckett, Virginia, into the 31st.
And right after that, a couple, three months after that, we was overseas.
Yeah.
Down in the Pacific.
Were you married before you got into the service?
No.
Oh, you never got married until afterwards?
Right after.
You never met this good-looking lady here until after you got out of the service?
I knew her, yeah.
He knew, he knew that my family knew his family and his dad, but you've got to remember I was only 16 when I married him.
Oh, that's right.
So before he went into service.
You didn't know who he was?
No.
You had your career was over with before you ever met her then?
No.
No, I went, it was incredible.
She was, I was married, we was married in 46.
And he went back in 47, he went back in service.
Yeah, I see.
No, 47.
No, it was 48.
No, he was married.
Henry was born the 19th of August in 47 and you went back in November the 1st of 47.
It did too.
It was about three years.
No, you went, he went not.
He went back in.
Well anyway, you were out for a period of time.
That's right.
He was in the Korean War and then that ended, when you were discharged right after the Korean War ended then?
I got out in 52.
52.
Yeah.
What did you do after that?
I worked in steel mill.
Steel mill.
What about?
I worked in West Virginia.
Oh, okay.
And you retired this place?
No, I worked there for I think seven years.
Then I went to work for aluminum reduction plant in Attleboro, Ohio.
I see.
And that's the place I retired from.
Florida.
I see.
And now you're living in Florida.
Right.
Okay.
You're here for the reunion, that's your first reunion.
Right.
You haven't been down to any of the other 31st Infantry reunions down south.
We didn't know they existed.
Didn't know anything about them.
Because the ones that was in St. Augustine's we could have went, the one that was in Orlando we could have went.
But see, he didn't know.
I see.
Are you planning on staying, how long are you planning?
All the way through?
No, we're leaving in the morning.
You're leaving tomorrow morning already?
Okay.
That's when I want to get you on camera tonight because I didn't know how long you were going to stay.
Yeah, we're going to leave and go in the morning.
Well, that's okay.
You know, you can stay like we had said.
We can stay one, two, three, four, five nights.
It doesn't matter if we come and go as you please.
Yeah, we got, I got people up in West Virginia.
We're going back up there in three or four more days.
Yeah.
Head back to...
If he gets 49 degrees he'll be heading to Florida.
Heading back to warm country.
Well, I'm sure glad you came and I'm glad you found out about it.
How was it that you found out about it?
I got your letter.
You got a...
Yeah, I found out about the VFW magazine.
Magazine, huh?
Yeah.
There were a lot of guys that, they wrote me and they didn't say how they found out about it.
I see I had advertised three magazines.
And I didn't know which four magazines it was.
And I didn't know which one it come from, which one they saw it in.
That's when it was last, the VFW.
I think most of the ones I got, they saw it in the VFW or more than any other magazine.
Well, I think that's about the only one that they really always all take.
Well, American Legion and then the DAV magazine and the military magazine.
And I had it in all of those.
And I think I got one or two from American Legion.
I don't know if they got any DAV, I saw it in a magazine or not.
I don't know.
But I know most of them.
Most of the Army men, they seem to go with the veterans.
Yeah.
And the other ones, they go with the American, the Navy's go with the American Legion.
That's what it seemed like.
I didn't pay much attention to that.
But if you just kind of notice, that's...
Yeah.
Because I know my dad was in the Navy and he went in the American Legion.
He was in the Army.
He was in the VFW.
Well, these reunions have been getting larger.
This is our largest.
We're expecting 90 people here this year.
And they're not all here yet.
Most of them will be here before the night's over with, I think.
There'll be some coming in yet tomorrow.
Some of ours, I see, Thursday.
And that's when the tour starts tomorrow.
Some of them won't go on.
Some of them will be coming in until Friday.
And some of these people will be like, you'll be gone already.
Yeah.
You know, it's nice, you know, just like me.
I even saw an old butcher cutter.
They got this job.
They had an honor.
46, 45.
And to see a guy like that, you know, in my years.
You're going to bring back a lot of members, right?
Oh, I reckon.
Yeah.
Will you plan on attending these things next year?
These reunions?
I might do it.
Good.
It depends on where it is and what time of year.
Okay.
Well, it's nice talking to you.
I'm going to cut this thing off.
Now you can go back to what you were doing.
Thank you very much.
Okay.
This is Marion Hess here.
And where are you from, Marion?
I'm from Inverness, Florida.
Inverness, Florida.
What part of Florida is that, Northern?
It's the central part of Florida.
Central?
Right.
Not close to the coast?
Seventeen miles from the Gulf.
Oh, okay.
And your husband lives in 124th Inverter.
He was in Company H, 2nd Battalion.
And what happened to him?
He died three years ago.
Three guys years ago, yeah.
Okay.
And you were coming to the reunions together up to that point, or?
No.
When he was alive, we never knew any of the organizations existed.
You found out about it after he passed away?
I found out about it when they were planning the 50th in St. Augustine.
Oh, that's when you found out about it.
And I went to that.
My son and I went to that.
And then this year I went to Mississippi for the 31st.
That was your first trip there to one of their reunions?
Right.
And this is my first to service.
And in November I go to B Company.
And I still haven't met anybody from H Company.
You're talking about 124th?
Right.
And he was in what company?
H.
Heavy weapons.
Yeah.
Right.
And he never got to go to any of these reunions?
We never knew any of them existed.
Well, they were kind of late getting started because I was watching all the magazines and stuff,
and I'd never seen anything for a long, long time.
Well, we moved.
I was expecting to get a letter in the mail every once in a while.
Because I got that book, you know, and that was the last time I heard from anybody.
Well, see, he went in as a replacement from Pennsylvania.
He wasn't with the...
Oh, I went in as a replacement, too.
When did he go in?
He went in in June of 44.
That when he was drafted into service?
Right, in June.
And he went overseas in December of 44.
And he went to Mori-tai.
And then he made the...
Well, your husband might have been younger than me then.
He was 18 when he went in.
I was, too.
Yeah.
Were you married together at that time?
Yeah.
We had a little boy while he was away.
He didn't see him until he was two years old.
Uh-huh.
I never got married until I got back in the service.
And I was married for 37 years, and my wife got cancer.
And then she died, and then we were fine.
When you got back from the service, where did you live at then?
We lived in Philadelphia first.
And then with his job, he was a salesman.
He sold printing equipment, a cap, a great big printing process.
And we moved 22 times.
Oh, boy.
So if anything ever did come to us...
And I don't think that they kept track of the replacements like they did the original boys.
But we probably wouldn't have gotten it anyhow.
Was your husband wounded or anything while he was overseas?
I don't think he was wounded.
He was in the hospital because he had an abscess on his neck.
But I don't think...
It wasn't from a woman.
It was from the helmet, I think.
Oh, maybe so.
He had a great big scar about that big on the back of his neck.
They sent him to Lady General.
What was your husband's name?
Fred.
Fred?
Hess.
Hess.
They called him Little Daddy.
Did they?
Okay.
Because he was so young and he had a little boy.
If he'd been living now, how old would he be?
He'd be 66.
66.
He'd be younger than me then.
He was 63 when he died.
I'm 67.
I thought I was the youngest, but I found somebody younger now.
He's passed away though.
Yeah.
Well, and you've been to...
How many of these now, these reunions here?
This would be your third one?
Well, St. Augustine was the first.
Mississippi was the second and this is the third.
I mean, the second one was Joe Wall's reunion.
No, only the first.
Oh, was this your first one, Joe Wall's reunion?
Yeah.
I thought St. Augustine was a Joe Wall reunion.
Or was that the 31st?
Well, that was the 31st.
Was it?
That was the 50th anniversary of the...
Oh, yeah.
I was thinking about going to that, but I...
Joe was there.
Was he?
I couldn't make up my mind.
That was run by the Society?
Bob Hawke.
No, this was run by the Historical Foundation in St. Augustine.
Bob Hawke is the historian of the Florida National Guard.
And it was held in conjunction with the opening of the museum at Camp Landing.
And that's how I got involved because...
How did you get involved with the 124th Society?
Well, at this reunion, I met three young soldiers who are active duty National Guard people.
And I found out that the 2nd Battalion of the 124th Infantry is still in active use.
And its headquarters is in Orlando.
So that's not too far.
It's 80 miles from where I live.
And we were working then on trying to get the money together to have the Colgan Woods painting done.
And they got to talking and they said,
we're going to start a plan, a museum in the headquarters of the 124th Armory, the headquarters battalion.
And I said, okay, fine.
And from there, I'm now vice president of the 124th Regimental Association.
I saw you, the literature you had that in Jackson, Mississippi on the table, of the 124th.
And we're working on the museum and the painting is on the wall.
And I've been busy lately collecting gear to dress a mannequin in combat mode.
Because see, we have General Harrison's uniform with all his stars and everything.
And I said, if that's going to be in the museum, there's going to be a ground pounder standing right next to him.
So I've been collecting all this stuff.
I've got a carbine.
I have him all dressed with World War II equipment.
And that's been kind of fun.
But right now, all my National Guard guys are down in Miami with the hurricane.
I haven't been able to get an awful lot done in the last month.
But it's coming along and it's nice.
Are you staying until the end of the reunion through Saturday?
Sunday. I'll leave Sunday morning.
You always got a nice program lined up with all the tours and stuff.
Oh, yeah.
I was here once before with my husband in 1963.
We came up for a weekend. We lived in Atlanta at the time.
We came up for a weekend and we stayed at the Grove Park Inn.
And it's very historic.
It's where Scott Fitzgerald lived for a while and whatever.
But I didn't get to see anything.
We just came up and stayed in the hotel for a weekend.
So I'm kind of anxious to see the Biltmore and the different sites.
Well, you was over there at that museum across the street there this afternoon.
No, I had just gotten here and I was up packing my bags.
So, no, I didn't see that.
But I'm not going on the tour Saturday.
I figure by Saturday I'm going to need to get some rest.
So I thought Saturday I'll run over and see it.
You're going to go to the barbecue on Friday night?
Yeah, the only thing I didn't sign up for was the tour Saturday
because it's to Chimney Rock and I'm not big on height.
I don't like being up high.
And I figure you've seen one mat and you've seen them all.
So I needed a day's rest on Saturday.
Well, it's been nice meeting you and talking to you.
Well, I appreciate it.
And hope you have a good time here.
Oh, I'm sure I will.
In Asheville.
Appreciate the opportunity to talk to you.
Yeah.
Thank you.
I'm going to cut this thing off now.
Very good.
Okay. Thank you very much.
I was looking at a picture here.
Well, this is a reunion here at Asheville, North Carolina in 1992.
Oh, these are five people here.
It's all coming to be 167.
And my name's Leo Logo.
And on my left here is...
Norman Steele.
Norman Steele.
And this is his first reunion.
Right.
50 years with us guys.
It is.
50 years.
I'll try to be back next year.
And you're from where?
Reading, Pennsylvania.
Reading, Pennsylvania.
He was in the machine gun squad.
Right.
And over here, little Weidermann.
Right.
I'm from two places.
Baltimore, Maryland.
Baltimore, Maryland and from?
Florida.
Yeah, Florida.
And Florida.
Yeah.
Boynton Beach, Florida.
Dune Marsh.
Greensboro, Alabama.
Greensboro, Alabama.
This is your second reunion.
Second time, yeah.
That was Bill's third reunion.
Yeah, Bill been here lots of times.
Bill Marine over here.
I'm from Harlock, Maryland.
First platoon, or was it?
Yeah, first platoon.
And this is your second reunion.
That's right.
And you're from where, Mer...
Harlock, Maryland.
On the eastern shore of Maryland, close to the Atlantic Ocean.
Yeah.
All five of us gonna be back next year at home?
Lord willing.
We hope.
We hope.
Yeah.
All right.
Where we gonna have it next year?
Well, we don't know yet.
I'm gonna try and bring it to Dayton, Ohio.
I'd rather go way up in the New England states.
Well, we'd get that next year after next.
We might be dead by then.
At the age we're getting.
We got a heap of them left, Leo.
No.
Leo, they're all younger than I am.
Well, I think that'd be enough for now.
Everybody's on camera.
Always at the home of Pete DiGiulio here at 818 Luther Lane in Chicago Heights.
A nice warm sunny day here about 65, 70 degrees.
We're out here just kind of enjoying the sun.
We just got back from a golf course.
And he's one of my old Army buddies.
Company B, 167th Infantry, 31st Division.
And I was overseas with him all the time.
I never met him until I got overseas.
And Pete, how many years were you in service?
Three years.
Three years as all of this 167th Infantry, right?
No, I was with the 106th Division in South Carolina.
And from South Carolina it dispersed.
And we went to Camp Pickett, Virginia and joined the 31st Dixie Division.
That was Camp Pickett, Virginia.
And we were with the 167th Regiment, Company B.
And later we did our training in Camp Pickett maneuvers in the Mounds of Virginia.
West Virginia.
And from there then we were shipped to Norfolk, Virginia.
And we got on a what they call Jamaican freighter all the way to New Guinea.
And I think somewhere in Moriarty, this man right here to my right.
Oh, I met you in Oral Bay.
Oral Bay.
Well, that's in New Guinea.
That's in New Guinea, right.
Yeah.
And then we went to Moriarty.
Yeah, Moriarty, Mindenow, all the campaigns.
It was rough.
It was laughter, cries, miserable.
But we're here.
Yeah, well we both are.
And thank God.
Thank God neither one of us got hurt.
I got injured once but it wasn't serious.
And I was, I made Staff Sergeant in combat.
Yeah, he was combat, made staff in the, up on the front lines.
Front lines, right.
Front lines, right under fire.
Didn't want no command because until I knew what I was doing.
And then I hardly knew what I was doing anyway.
Yeah, he was a little bit shaky.
Everybody was.
Everybody was shaking in the boots.
As far as this Dixie Rebel Division is one of the best outfits and most colorful boys
that I ever met.
Yeah, we had that.
All these Alabama boys, Doom Marsh, Dick Marsh.
O'Neill.
O'Neill from Alabama, all National Guard, what they call.
Owen Stewart, remember him, he was our platoon sergeant.
Rough and tough boys.
Owen Stewart was our platoon sergeant.
Yeah, that's the one.
Bert Meadows.
Sergeant Stewart was the one I was telling you about.
Yeah, right.
I couldn't remember that when the point system first came out, when the first battle that
we were in, it was like a fairyland.
It was unbelievable that we were being shot at.
At the same time, the point system came up and two fellows left the premises to go back
home.
One was Billy Graham, the bugler, and the other I don't remember.
But I couldn't understand how we were fighting a war and they have a point system for these
boys to go back.
It was unbelievable, but I was kind of glad for them anyway.
Right.
Yeah.
Pete, I enjoyed your visit, I came up here and thanks for inviting me up here.
I'm glad.
And I'm going to invite you down to my place.
It was nice.
Finding a way to get down there.
It was nice of you to come.
If you want to fly down sometime, I'll meet you at the airport.
And we had an enjoyable evening last night.
Yeah.
Played 18 holes of golf this morning.
We hacked at them, but so what?
We had a nice time.
Okay.
And Lee, I appreciate you coming and I wanted you to give your wiley nice.
Thank you.
All right.
I'm going to cut this off right here then and that will be it.
Okay.
All right.
Thank you a lot, Pete.
That's insane.
We're insane.
And the Iraqi Air Force have in common departure time.
Here's another question.
Why do the generals have to have a press conference every day so reporters can say,
General, could you give us the exact date and time of the land war?
Well, backing up a little bit, the weekend before the war started, the Congress authorized
the president to go ahead, right?
Now, I must say that during that weekend, the rhetoric got rather lofty.
Some of the boys and girls rose to statesmanlike proportions and others didn't.
You take your own state of New York, your two senators, they really are contrasting,
aren't they?
Well, I guess the new song of the Persian Gulf is, I'm a Yankee Noodle Dandy.
Oh, my goodness.
That's it for this edition of NBR for Wednesday, February 20th.
I'm Cassie Seifert in New York.
I'll see you tomorrow, Paul.
Good night, Cassie.
I'm Paul Kangas in Miami.
Wishing all of you the best of goodbyes.
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