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Well we've got a second here. Could you tell me a little bit about KMFDM and who's in the band and how you got started?
I'm not the right person to talk about KMFDM actually, but I came to Russia to be members of the band which are Rudy and Sasha.
I'm doing it right now as a road manager for them during the America tour. They're friends of mine and we're traveling together to help them.
We're doing some kind of organization things. Not the band actually, it's Rudy the drummer.
And Rudy here. This is Rudy.
Hi Rudy.
Hi.
Hi.
And?
And Sasha over there.
Who's Sasha?
Sitting over there.
And the other members?
Nick. This right here.
This right here is the guitarist and singer also.
And the guitarist.
And Gunther the other guitarist.
Alright, you are Sasha.
You are Sasha and you're the drummer.
I'm the singer.
Tell me a little bit about KMFDM and how long it's been together.
KMFDM was founded in 84 as an art project band and developed to be an ultra heavy beat band in 85, 86.
We released our first record in the end of 86 and that was a compilation of songs that we did in the years before.
And it's called What Do You Know Deutschland?
Has your sound changed at the beginning?
Yes of course because finally we managed to get things together that from the very beginning have been like just playing around with sampling kits and just having kind of lots of ideas without any internal structure.
But in the years we decided to do what we like and it's different from the beginning so there is a development.
We didn't want to be stuck in the techno industrial corner and now we're what they call crossover band in Germany.
You wanted to get away from the out there another industrial sample band?
We wanted to get away from any kind of corners people try to put us in so we're not a reggae band, we're not a heavy metal band even though we're playing some songs which are kind of that stuff.
What's your own personal background? How did you get involved?
I don't know I started off in a school band when I was 14. I played bass and well it just developed.
I bought me an electric bass guitar when I was 16. I started off with a punk band and that's how it came.
Was this a Hamburg area punk band?
Yes it was just a local little punk band. We had lots of fun.
What was it like being in a punk band in Hamburg? When was this like in the early 80's?
I started off in 77. It was one of the first punk bands in Germany I think.
What was the name?
The name was, oh god let me remember, I played in five punk bands. It might have been Smash, yeah it was Smash.
The following project was called Crush and then we had the punks with X in the end and then we played in Liquid Picks under pressure.
That's when I met Rudolf Naomi and there were so many bands I can't remember everything. I just forgot the time.
Talk a little bit about sampling and what you feel the sampling technology, the frozen cards.
Well sampling, I mean basically sampling is a cheap method to work out big symphony orchestras and to work fast in the studio.
So you don't have to have the best musicians around. You just put some little bits in your sampler and fiddle around.
So I think when the samplers came out in 84 you just could do things like dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee, stuff like that.
A bit later you could change the pitch. A bit later you had lots of sampling time and nowadays you can stretch your samples, shrink the samples, just do lots of things.
And it became kind of common. For me using a sampling kit is as common as using an electric guitar. There's no big deal.
I'm just interested in technology. I try to get into systems, computer systems, languages, technology. I mean technology works.
What are your own motivations behind your career?
It's hard to say. I think every one of us got a certain motivation to do what we do. But I can't generalise it.
My motivations are I cannot do anything else. It's all I can do and all I want to do.
And I'm very happy that right now I have the chance to be in America, to present my work and to get such a good response.
I didn't expect it to be so nice over here.
Change the subject a little bit. Tell me a little bit about your own perspective on some of the stuff that's happening in the world right now, especially in Eastern Europe.
Well, basically I'm very happy that East Germany is liberated.
I'm often asked if I would like to see both German parts reunited. I must say I wouldn't like to see them reunited.
Because I think to keep on with two Germanies is a good reminder of a terrible war in this century.
And it should be for another 100 years that people are reminded this is the result of craziness of men, especially the Nazis and the Third Reich.
And I'm very sure that a reunited Germany would take over and dictate other countries again.
Because it's got to do with the position of Germany in Europe. It's got to do with German mentality in general.
Which is kind of, I don't know, Germans behave like they could teach other people what to do.
And last but not least, the East German people should have the chance to not find themselves in West German democracy, which is very similar to American democracy.
And I believe it is a complete mistake to call this stuff democracy.
I think they should have the chance to build up a better system. A system of freedom, understanding and being together.
Like get rid of the paranoia that ruled for, I don't know, 30 years maybe.
So I think the European idea is a very good thing, but it should stay with two Germanies.
I just heard that the East German currency has been, there is no East German currency anymore.
That means they have West German money already. And that is the first step in the very wrong direction in my eyes.
So I don't know if I want to go back to Germany because I think this country goes down the hill very fast.
Does it scare you that there is a lot of people that don't really seem to remember the past?
Yes, that's right. There were demonstrations every day in East Germany and all the big cities.
And all the people were together. They were for liberation, they were against that regime.
And in that moment the wall was torn down. They just separated and they had some 50%.
They demonstrated for a right-wing system for the future in that country.
And the other 50% demonstrated for a better future. And that's really scary.
There is a very strong right-wing party in West Germany these days.
And of course they took over, they went to East Germany, they started a big propaganda immediately.
And they became strong overnight, like in between two weeks or something.
Okay, and I'm going to wrap up here. What do you see happening in the 90s?
Your timetable, your guess on what we can look forward to in the next 10 years?
Well, it's not very positive, even though I'm a positive person. My prediction for the next decade is the massive extinction of several kinds of species.
And hopefully that kicks ass with the human race to stick together, to rip systems that suppress opinions, meanings, colors, sexual behavior, whatever.
To stick together and rip the system.
Do you feel like the system is a great beast out there?
No, the system is part of us and we have to regenerate. We have to become healthy to get a healthy system.
But the first thing is we have to have a revolution, otherwise money, banks, big companies, destruction of nature, pollution of water and air will take over and there will be more life in 10 years.
Do you think there is any hope for us?
Yes, become healthy in mind. Think of problems. Don't live your life without any questioning of problems.
Just wake up, man. Wake up, look around, see what's going on and do what you can do. Don't be lazy, don't sit at home taking drugs and do nothing. Just go for it.
OK, thank you, Sasha. And your name?
So I'm Anash from KMF 10.
OK, and what do you do in the band?
I'm doing one stage. I'm playing guitar and singing. So actually I'm the bass, the basic form of KMF 10 together with Sasha.
And we've been working together since the last five years. So KMF 10 was founded in 1985.
How did you get together with these guys? Did you all know each other growing up in Hamburg?
No, exactly. So I moved from Frankfurt to Hamburg. It was in Germany. And so I met Sasha in Hamburg and that's it.
Dior, how did you come about your songs? How did they develop? Is it the idea of what you want to do and then you find it in the music?
Yeah, something like that. So actually we are composed on a sequencer, on a computer and figure the same out with manual instruments on stage and in studios.
So I prefer them on manual instruments, but I prefer as well to compose on computers first. That's great.
Do you have any personal influences musically?
Yeah, just Richard Blackmore from Purple and something, a guy called Alban Berg. That's something like a classic composer.
I was asking Sasha about the political situation in Eastern Europe and Germany and his thoughts on the subject for you.
How do you feel about everything that's happened this past year?
It's a shame. So the Eastern Revolution was made in the Eastern part for sure, but I think it was planned in the Western part, something like that.
So the fact is now that money rules the world again and rules the Western and Eastern part of Germany. So I heard about the money in Eastern Germany, it's the same like in Western Germany.
So they changed their money in the Eastern part and now they are using Western money for all the Germany area now and that's terrible enough.
So the gap between the Eastern and Western part is going and the Eastern part is becoming a b-side from the Western part.
You understand? So money rules the world again and it's a civilized world. That's a mess.
What would you think, would you be alarmed at a reunified Germany?
Not for sure, but I think the terrible thing is you've got in the Eastern part you've got 40 years of communism and it's unbelievable. Now you can see there are a lot of right-wing guys in the Eastern part.
It's unbelievable. I never heard before of that shit. So we've got a lot of right-wing fascist guys. So that's a terrible situation.
And maybe it's dangerous to have a reunion with Germany or whatever. We will see. I don't care anymore. So now I'm in the U.S.
I also asked if you had a timetable for the 90s. Do you have one? What do you see happening in this next decade?
Do you think it's time to run for cover?
No, not really. I think the big problems have the U.S. people. So you've got many problems in here in the U.S. with technique and cars and stuff and factories.
And that's a big problem. Everybody let's run his car. So everybody leave his car and the engine is running all the time through over hours. It's unbelievable.
You know what I mean? And such a dirty and ugly stuff is going into the air. It's terrible. So we have, I think...
Time's running out on the road.
Yeah, maybe like that. So the first thing, we need something like the often happiness again. Understanding between the people and forget all this national things and stuff.
Because I am an American and you are a German. So we need maybe a government for the whole earth.
One world government.
Yeah, that's true. That would be nice. I think I have to go now.
Okay. Thank you.
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