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That's all from us until our late news, but please stay with us now for cops. What would you say to dinner tonight? Just the two of us. It depends. Is your mum cooking a roast or something? No, I'm off to McDonald's for a McRib. It's Mac time now for McRib. McRib is all tender pork that's grilled and dipped in a special barbecue sauce topped with onions and pickles and served on a long toasted bun. It's Mac time now. Mmm. Reckon that beats your mum's roast. Tasty, huh? Yeah. At McDonald's. Tomorrow night on Hinch with Anne Fullwood, the cold girlfriend and the fast becoming Australia's latest pop sensation. They sing, they dance, following in the footsteps of US superstars, new kids on the block. Hinch weeknights at seven o'clock on Channel 10. In place of our scheduled program, Cops, this evening we bring you a special program that no one in Australia can afford to miss. Scared Silent. Tonight's special, Scared Silence, brought to you by SGIO. Good evening Australia, and welcome to one of the most important television specials that you are ever likely to see on this or any TV network. So important that three American networks ran it simultaneously in prime time. It concerns children, your children, and the risks that sadly surround us. The chance that they could be subjected to sexual abuse, physical violence, emotional abuse. For years I've been asking the question, who is looking after the children? And personally I believe there is no question more important, no answer more vitally needed. No cause more precious. I've been to jail over this issue, and that is one of the reasons why I'm proud to present this documentary on child abuse tonight. Hosted by Oprah Winfrey. She was molested as a child, and so was I. You make it public in the hope that others will no longer be too scared to come forward. Others who are scared silent. And maybe I hope that by bringing this to you tonight, we can help you recognise some warning signs. Maybe, just maybe, we can save some kids. Who's looking after the children? I'm Darren Hinch. This program contains mature subject matter which includes strong language and explicit descriptions of child abuse offences. Viewer discretion is advised. He told me if I told anybody he was going to kill me. My husband didn't have an affair. He went out and made mistresses out of my daughters. It's almost not until it goes by that I think about what I did with my children. What is worse than a mother who takes her own child's life? That poor kid, I really need to stop this. Why can't I? I'm Oprah Winfrey, and like millions of other Americans, I'm a survivor of child abuse. I was only nine years old when I was raped by my 19-year-old cousin. He was the first of three family members to sexually molest me. I kept the abuse a secret over 20 years. Every year in America, nearly three million cases of child abuse are reported. Who knows how many go unreported? We're here tonight to fight this national epidemic of child abuse and neglect. You're about to meet six perpetrators of sexual, physical, and psychological child abuse. While their stories may shock you, they are frighteningly typical of the 7,300 cases of abuse and neglect reported every day. We hope the stories of these abusers and their victims can help all the children and adults among us who, for too long now, have been scared silent. Contrary to popular belief, most child molesters are not strangers. Practically all child sexual abuse is inflicted by a close family member or friend. A warning. You're about to hear some graphic descriptions of sexual abuse. But to stop and to prevent this crime against children, we need to face the hidden truth. And in the beginning, probably up until I was 11, there was just really just heavy, you know, petting, touching, and probably like oral sex. But then when I was 11 or 12, it started to become intercourse and really frequently, maybe once or twice a week. There were times in my mind when I couldn't wait for her to mature more, to be ready for intercourse. But at the same time, I refrained, thinking at the same time that that was, you know, it just can't go that far. I can stop it before then. And I couldn't. Dell is 48 and a successful engineer. He sexually molested his daughter Eva from age 7 to 21 and his younger daughter Bonnie from age 9 to 14. Like so many families in which incest occurs, they appeared normal from the outside. My dad was an usher at church. You know, Mom was part of the PTA. It was really important to look good to everyone else because it looked so bad from the inside. I really don't know when a sexual attraction started. I know that teaching her to swim as a young girl, touching and feeling in a way that she didn't know what was going on yet. Once I realized that Eva would allow me to do certain things, then I could push her to do more because her whole goal in life was to make Dad happy. I don't ever recall thinking of her as a child. In my mind, she was more an adult. I was isolated from my brother and sister. I felt really alone. So when somebody gave me attention, that is my dad, it was sort of attention that I needed and was missing. But also, he had planned it that way. He planned for me to be needing that and missing that. He usually started out asking if we could go out for a date, ice cream, a movie or something. And I always knew what that meant. If it was or something, I was in trouble. Then he usually would want me to be in a skirt, a change clothes, into something that was easily accessible to him. Which made me really feel sick because I just felt like a slut. Part of the grooming is to indicate that you can't tell anybody about this because they'll come in and break up the family. And to a child, that's their world. So you don't need force to put them into a fear mode that's greater than you can imagine. Incest is the whole family's problem. Like many mothers of sexual abuse victims, Del's wife, Jan, was herself molested as a child. Since she couldn't bear to face the pain of her own abuse, she shut out the signs of her daughter's suffering. I felt somewhere in the pit of my stomach that something was wrong, but I didn't know what it was. I ignored all the clues and the symptoms and the feelings and thought there was something wrong with me that I would even think something like that. The signs that she was not getting was the fact that I was a very sad kid. If this was such a great family, why was I so sad? Why couldn't I look people in the eye? Why did I walk funny? It wasn't until Eva was a young adult and had spent time away from her family that she was finally able to break 13 years of silence. I took my sister out for coffee. I go, okay, do you know what it means to be molested? She went, Eva, I know. I'm being molested too. At that point I was furious. It wasn't for myself that I could stop it. It was for somebody else. We decided to wait until the next morning to say anything to my mom. And I said, I can't, we can't stay in the same house for another hour. We just can't. And I just remember her saying to my dad, we know what you've done. Damn you. And I can't believe that she ever, you know, would come to our rescue like that. Dell pleaded guilty to sexual abuse charges and served one year in jail. During three years of separation from his family, he has undergone intensive therapy to help him recover from his abusive behavior and to uncover its roots. Dell's history revealed severe emotional cruelty at the hands of his stepfather. And like 70% of all men who molest children, Dell himself had been sexually abused by a neighbor when he was six. I came from a very strict religious family that didn't even say words like sex. There was just no way I could communicate that this 20-year-old boy next door did something to me out in the barnyard. So in order to make sure that nothing like that ever happened again, I had to be in control of my life and everybody around me forever. For years, Eva pretty well lived under my command. One of the things that I feel very strongly about as part of the recovery process for me is to gain trust again with my daughter somehow. Do I think my dad's really in recovery? I reserve that. I don't know. It's difficult to understand how you can love someone so much and do so much damage to them. My daughter had something taken away from them and it was me that took it away. I would say to anybody else who's like my dad, who wants to do the things my dad did, I know you have problems. Don't take it out on your kids because it's not their fault. You know, don't create this hell that you live in for them, too. F.T.I.O. F.T.I.O. And wherever you are or whatever you are, we'll stand by you, F.T.I.O. Just the thought of going board really freaks me. It starts to march back and you worry like hell. She's scalp dandruff, hair loss. I was really frantic until I went to Ashley and Martin. With the experience and technical resources of one of Australia's leading hair treatment companies, Ashley and Martin will help resolve your scalp and baldness worries. An obligation-free consultation with Ashley and Martin could provide the answers you're looking for. So call now. Ashley and Martin really helped me. The Australian sun's hot enough to fry an egg. And it soon cooks ordinary house-pies as well. But what'll scientists beat the sun with a finish that lasts years longer? What'll solar guard? 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The reason why I'm a Waypoint unit is because I sexually molested a girl. Tasha is 15 and in her short life has sexually abused at least five other children ranging in age from 7 to 12 years old. She's in group therapy with other juvenile sex offenders at the Waypoint program, a lockup facility for children who have become molesters. The average age for their first offense, 11 years old. I've never met an adolescent sex offender who came from a normal background. Tasha is typical in the Waypoint program. Her past history is a very chaotic family life. She was sexually abused by a member of her family for many years. Some of that involved force and violence and some pretty severe history of abuse. I'm going to talk about my last victim. He's a boy. He's in my family. It took me two to three weeks to set up what I was going to do to him. He was around about seven years old. I rub my body up against him when other people was not around. I do it when he's sitting down somewhere or standing up. I sexually fathered him. I had a full inner course. I always picked victims that were younger than me because I know that I can take power control over them. That power was like, it felt real good. I was getting a kick out of it. I did not feel remorse whatsoever. I didn't care if they would have had nightmares about it. If that happened to me, it's going to happen to you too. I picked a fight with him outside one day and kind of threw him around a little bit, but I didn't mean to hurt him that bad. I punched one of his teeth out. I broke his arm. What made you want to do all that to him? Because he was a guy. It was a boy. This is her only male victim that we know of. Tasha, do you want to find out what that's all about? When you committed this offense when he was 12 years old, was it before or after your brother had started molesting you? It was after. What's the worst thing your brother did to you when he abused you, Tasha, that brings up all this anger towards guys and towards this victim? He followed me with objects. Pencils, deodorant bottles, circle bottles, brooms. How do you feel after you did all that to you? Didn't you have a lot of problems? I had a lot of problems. I couldn't barely use the bathroom. I had blood in my pants all the time. I would walk funny. My mom would ask me what was wrong. I mean, I lied to my mom for what my brother did to me. I covered his ass knowing that what he did to me was wrong. Let it out. Let it out, Tasha. When he did that to me, I took a shower. I mean, I stayed in the bathroom for only three hours taking a shower because of him. Touching me on my body that I didn't want it to be touched. I had to drink a whole bottle of mouthwash. I had to wipe the blood off the floor. This shit pisses me off. I'm getting sick and tired of my whole life. All my life I was getting offended. I got offended by my uncle. I got offended by my brother. I think a lot of people have difficulty understanding why a victim might become an offender. They ask themselves, well, if it was done to them, why don't they understand how it felt when they're doing it to somebody else? But remember, the offender is not conscious of what their victim is feeling. The victim is simply an object. The offender is not in touch with what it felt like to them at the time. That's something we take them back to in treatment in order to teach them remorse. Tasha, I'm going to point something out to you that I think you're ready to hear. Do you see the way you feel about your brother and all the feelings you're expressing now, do you see that your victims may feel the same way about what you did to them? Yep. Yep. Talk to us about that. My victims will probably hate me, especially the seven-year-old. I did this to my cousins, man, and my family. I screwed their lives up. Y'all always walking around here saying, putting yourself in someone else's shoes. Before you put yourself in anyone's shoes, you should put yourself in your victim's shoes. That's what I'm doing, man. I can't believe I did this shit. I was at 11 years old and I couldn't see nobody touching me. Tasha's prognosis is very good. The key for Tasha is going to be able to continue this type of work when she needs to leave this facility. She's come a long way. Now, that's not to say that she's cured because she'll never be cured, but that's to say that she's learned some skills that we hope will benefit her when she leaves this program. If I wouldn't come here, I would have been still molested, and I know that for a fact. I am so happy that I'm here. I don't want to do it anymore because I know I done messed up somebody else's life for a whole life, and I don't want to do it anymore. 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The I think that that isolation has a benefit in that if you don't have anything to copy, you can sometimes go past it. Tomorrow night, first at 5 on Ten Eyewitness News, Berth becomes the centre of the universe for former Miss Universe, Kerry Wells. Living here in the West has become a bonus for the model-turned-fashion designer, as it has for Doris Brinkhouse, the local jewellery designer in constant demand by the likes of Rose Hancock Porteous. An exclusive report only on Ten Eyewitness News. I'm responsible for my son's death. I killed my son. Parents accidentally and intentionally cross the line that separates discipline from abuse. The ultimate consequence of this violence is that every day, four children die from abuse or neglect. Once upon a time, my father told me that when us children came, he knew that there were two ways to raise children. One was through love and the other was through fear, and he didn't know how to love. So he raised us through fear. You can't always recognize fear in a photograph album. This is Grandma. When Jill, now 52, and her brother Dave look back on their childhood, they remember what lay behind the smiles in the family portraits. I think to the outside world, our family appeared pretty normal. In reality, living inside my family was like living in a concentration camp. Dad was like the secret place. He never knew when he was going to come in. With very seldom gut spankings, it was beatings. I walked out of the bathroom right into my dad's fist because I had woke him up by flushing the toilet, and he beat me. And Dad had come home in a bad mood, and I picked the pork chop off the serving platter that he had wanted for himself. And because of that, he beat me and then he choked me to unconsciousness. No one could do anything. The police wouldn't, the social agencies wouldn't. Dad owned us kids. This is how far I can trace back the abuse. Jill has been able to trace the abuse in her family back 130 years to the time of the Civil War. From what I can find out from Dad and from the rest of the family, he was as abused as we were. He was beaten by his mother. His father was an alcoholic. So we can go back with this five generations. And of course, our own kids have picked it up. Your daughter gave her child up for adoption because she was afraid of battering him. And so in Jill's family, it just kept happening generation after generation after generation because there was no way to interrupt it and nobody stopped it. And it kept being acceptable and forgotten about and not talked about. A part of me still loves him, but the larger part is just so angry, just so angry. And one of the biggest feelings that gets stopped in physical abuse, well any abuse, but physical abuse, is the feeling of rage and anger about what's happening and the humiliation and shame about being treated in such a disrespectful, horrible manner. So life is not fair. But to have to spend my first 20 years, my first 30 years to being told how awful I am, how am I supposed to build a life after that? Jill's first marriage ended in divorce and severe depression. Four years later, she met her second husband. They had two sons, Roger and Carl, and lived in an affluent suburban neighborhood. This is where I lived for 15 years. We had a very nice life on the outside, but I was still very much dealing with the rage. I didn't know how to be a mother. I didn't know the difference between discipline and abuse. My son had developed colic, and one day I was just exhausted and I wanted to take a nap, and my son was crying again, as usual. And so I put him in his carriage in the basement and stuffed a cloth in his mouth to keep him quiet. I could have killed him. I could have smothered him. Twenty-five years later, Jill returned to the house where in 1967, her unresolved rage finally caught up with her. That rage is right below the surface, and that rage can funnel up or blow up at any time. Then one weekend I just snapped. I had spent the whole day cleaning house and it looked spotless. And the kids got up early and they had gotten in the kitchen and gotten potato chips out, and it just scattered potato chips all over the floor, my nice clean floor that I worked so hard to get. It was just like it was the last straw. And I got mad. And I told Roger to go to bed, and he did, and I picked Carl up and I carried him into his room. And I just wanted them to get in bed and stay there so I could clean up the living room. And I came back and I picked up the curtain rod and I went over to Roger and whacked him a couple of times on the back end. Whacked Carl a couple of times and walked back to the door. And when I threw the curtain rod, and I don't remember seeing it fly. I don't remember seeing it land. There's about a full minute there that I don't remember and I choose not to remember. I don't think I could live through that again. But I saw the blood gushing out of his eye. In that moment, the curtain rod hit three-year-old Roger with enough force to pierce his eye and pass into his brain. I had never abused the children to the point where they had to be hospitalized. I didn't even think of myself as an abuser at that time. It just didn't occur to me. I went into his room and he had tubes and wires everywhere. And I felt so helpless. Just helpless. There was nothing I could do. Although the hospitals changed a lot, I could remember the waiting. And I could see Roger in that bed. And the waiting. And the guilt. And the wondering what's going to happen. The first thing my dad said to me when we walked in the hospital was, the sins of the fathers are visited on the daughters. Everything I'd feared. Everything I'd feared from my father killing me. And now I killed my son. Roger died at 2.30 in the morning. And at 6 o'clock in the morning the phone started ringing because there had been a story about his death. And at 9 o'clock in the morning the police came and arrested me. Jill was convicted of first degree manslaughter and faced a sentence of one to twenty years in the state penitentiary. Her conviction was overturned on appeal in the words of the court. There was no evidence of unnatural beating, either on the morning of the injury or any other time. And that Jill was a normal mother, interested in the welfare of her family. Things have changed a lot in the last 25 years. The rules have changed. The way society views child abuse has changed. No, I don't think I would be acquitted today. If there had been the kind of resources 25 years ago that there are now, you better believe I would have used them. But no matter what the courts say, I'm responsible for my son's death. I killed my son. Accident or design, I killed my son. And there's no way I can get away from it. 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At Buccaneer Pools, we also pride ourselves on building pools that last. In fact, every Buccaneer Pool is manufactured over and above the Australian standard specification. Then there's our revolutionary inbuilt walk ledge around the pool walls, which means a safer pool for children. So, wouldn't you rather be in a Buccaneer Pool? Buccaneer Pools, quality pools, built to last. Monday? Mmm, have the dessert. Wednesday? Skip the gym. Friday? Swim in champagne. But in between? Eat lean. Eat lean. I've had occasions where I've told my children that they never were going to amount to much. There's another form of abuse that's more difficult to recognise and to prosecute. Psychological or emotional abuse consists of the cruel, thoughtless words, the and rejecting actions that make children and teenagers feel worthless, unlovable, and stupid. Those feelings can become self-fulfilling prophecies that children carry with them into adulthood. What is the matter with you? Why are you crying? I'm not crying. I'm not crying. It's all your fault. He had a way of laughing at me that was very humiliating, especially in front of people. Don't be such a baby. It was dangerous to try and be open at home, because that would give Dad an opening to say something nasty or put me down. I was told that I was ugly and stupid and incompetent and irresponsible and lazy. And that I would never amount to anything. I think emotional abuse is even more frightening because you don't have anything to pin it on, nothing to go. This is the abuse. Can't you do anything right? Wish you were never born. Certainly children know when they're experiencing it. Being put down, being humiliated, being constantly criticised. And I don't mean a routine parental criticism, but I mean the type of criticism that never lets up. The type of criticism that never has anything positive to say. Without exception, every one of the perpetrators on this program was also psychologically abused as a child. There's no measurement of emotional abuse. Very seldom can you call and have an agency whose job it is to prevent the abuse of children respond to a report of emotional abuse. From the time a child is born, they're looking up to significant adults in their lives and they're saying, who am I? Who am I? And with every interaction, with every word, we're telling them who they are. George is a lecturer and consultant who travels the country teaching parents and professionals how they can help stop child abuse. And George speaks from experience. Years ago, he physically and verbally abused his two former wives and five children. It hurts to think about what I did to my children. I called them all stupid. You know, I told them they were backwards. I told them they were lazy. I've had occasions where I've told my children that they never were going to amount to much. And I know that has a major effect on who they are now. And I feel sad because they are having to go through some of the same struggles I went through, like difficulty in marriage, difficulty in employment settling, achieving. And that could have been different. To understand how he became an abusive parent, George had to look to his past and trace the cycle of abuse in his own family. I can remember when I was like 11, 12 years old and my mother was still being beat by her mother. You know, I can remember her hitting her and threatening her and throwing things at her. And as I think about abuse in my life, physical and emotional abuse, it was something that was always there, not only in the home but in the community. Recently, George returned to the housing projects where he grew up to confront some painful memories. So much feeling, so much feeling. Happy times and sad times. I can hear my mother telling me that I wasn't any better than anybody else and don't think I'm so special. The negative messages about who you are and what you're going to do were pretty constant up until I left home. And regardless of what I do, I'll still have that pain. It will always be there. It will always be. It will never go away. You know, I'll struggle with that for as long as I live. What I want to do is to go back to my mom in a loving way and say, this is what I experienced and to have her understand where I'm coming from and have her to really see how the experiences of my childhood might have affected me. We didn't consider it abuse at that time. We were just doing what we thought was the right thing. And the right thing to us was smack it beside the head and tell you shut up. Realize now that that wasn't the right thing. When I work with parents, most of them who come in say, I made the decision not to do to my children what was done to me. And then I ask them, I say, that's wonderful. What will you do instead? There's never an answer. They don't know. Andy knows what to do. We're not very aware of the power we have to influence children in positive ways. By knowing them and talking with them, talking to children as though they're people, not as though they're things. So I'm willing to go anywhere and talk to anyone at any time about eliminating child abuse, about how to say good things to your children, how to be nurturing. I don't believe that they're bad parents. I don't believe they're bad people. I believe there are people who don't have the knowledge they need to do what they need to do. The most important job that we do in their lives is to raise children, to be parents. And yet no one ever teaches us how to do that. Most parents don't intend to hurt their children, but they may lack the maturity or the parenting skills to raise kids without abuse. But now there are effective new ways to intervene and save these families before it's too late. It's a scary feeling because you don't know what you're going to do or what you're capable of doing when you lose control. And that's what really scares you. Two years ago, Pietrice, a 22-year-old mother of three, rushed to a hospital emergency room after lashing out in anger at her two-year-old daughter, Roxanne. I was so mad and angry, full of hate. I got Roxanne and I ended up breaking her leg. I was so afraid of them taking her away. I lied. I told them that she fell. Because I didn't want them to take her away, but they still did. The Child Protective Services immediately placed Roxanne in foster care. It's hard. It's hard when your baby's not being taken away. The court ruled that Pietrice must seek rehabilitation if she hoped to regain custody of her daughter. She was enrolled in Avance, a multi-service support program that works to strengthen families through education. Every time I don't get what I want, then I hit the child. And when he doesn't get what he wants, he wants to hit me. But soon enough he learns that I hit harder than he hits. So he hits others. And then I hit him because he hits somebody else. And so it's a pattern that repeats itself over and over. And you don't even realize it. We don't realize it. Her case was referred to psychotherapist Maricela Grune. She found that she had a lot of risk factors for more abuse with her children. She was very young, very immature. She was very isolated. She didn't have any kind of support. Since Pietrice came from an abusive background, she never had a chance to see healthy parenting behaviors in action. Using Avance's highly effective program of home visitation, Maricela set out to show Pietrice there were better ways to raise children. And every time he does that, you need to tell him, don't hit. Don't get mad at him. Don't hit him back. They were too little to understand and they didn't even know why they were getting hit. And I hit him. She needed to be taught ways of discipline instead of hitting the children or screaming at them or yelling when they did something that she didn't like. You having fun? Yeah. You want mommy to play with you? Well, they taught me how instead of spanking them, just to sit down and talk to them and let them know what it is that they're doing wrong instead of having to hit them all the time. Hold on, okay? Mommy's going to cook pop-up. And it took me a long time to become nice and have patience because I was real bad. I had a bad attitude when I first came here. It was a long process. It was through the visits that we had. It was through the classes with the information that was provided in the classes and through group therapy and individual therapy with her. We had to show her that we believed that she could do it. We had to show her that she was somebody and that she was important. I really made a change when I opened up and let everybody know what really happened. After that, I started trying harder to get her back and I succeeded. It was like a dream. I said to myself, now I have everything there is in this world. I don't want anything else. Beatrice is so much better now. She has a loving husband. I know now that she's still in the process of healing. And I know that if she ever comes to a crisis, she knows where to find help. Ryser was old enough to remember what happened and she's always going to remember what happened to her. And I feel bad because sometimes she gets scared. But I let her know it's not the same anymore. Everything's going to be different. You've got to sit down and really say to yourself, well, I'm going to do this the right way and I'm not going to hit my kids. I'm not going to hurt them. I'm going to try to get them to understand what's right and what's wrong. That's the difference. If you or someone you know needs assistance or support because of abuse or neglect, please don't hesitate to call your nearest crisis line. 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You know, the movies. I was always, oh, they ought to do something with this son of a bitch. He's a worthless scum of the earth. And here I was molesting my own daughter. I sexually molested my daughter, Wendy, from the time she was eight years old until the time she was about ten years old. We would, excuse me, I would make her masturbate me to ejaculation. I would also belittle her, put her down, beat her, hit her, make physical demands on her, tell her she was a whore, a slut. I was in total control. He told me, never tell anybody, it's a secret, nobody can know. And if I told anybody, he was going to kill me. Brian is a 38-year-old factory worker who sexually molested his daughter, Wendy, for two years. The abuse came to an end the day his wife, Roseanne, walked in on it. He had his hands in her underwear and he was holding her hand in his. And there was denial instantly. Oh, it only happened once. Hey, I didn't do it that often, you know, like, does that make any difference? No. Brian served a short jail term and remained separated from his family after release, but they still faced difficult decisions. After such a betrayal, could they ever be a family again? I was worried because I felt that I wasn't ever going to see my dad again because my dad said he wouldn't. I would never see him again if I told. Children will tolerate just about anything to keep their families. That is to me what I see in the children's eyes is, please, if I'm going to tell, don't let my family fall apart. Of course, that's not always possible, but with treatment I think it's possible for a family to choose to stay together if they wish to. Though Roseanne doubted they could ever reunite, they began a six-day-a-week process of individualized and group therapy, specifically for families torn apart by incest. In therapy, both parents came to grips with the lasting effects of the sexual abuse in their own childhoods. I never thought that I would marry somebody that could molest children, and I never thought during the first few years of our marriage, I never thought that Brian was even capable of it, but I didn't know his background either. As a five-year-old boy, Brian was raped by an older relative and then forced to participate in child pornography for three years. During two and a half years of counseling, Brian learned not only why he abused his daughter, but also how to prevent it from happening again. I have a pattern that led up to my abuse, and these are my warning signals. Knowing that pattern is crucial. It can tell you if the molest will repeat again. For instance, an abundance of pornography, substance abuse, the evidence of a need to control, to judge, poor self-esteem. We call them red flags. The man who starts working in treatment begins to lose these traits. It takes a deep commitment to change and a deep commitment to grow for these men to have treatment be effective. This family has been very committed to treatment from the very beginning. I had planned on getting a divorce. I had seen a lawyer. I had done everything. And after a year, I started seeing a lot of major changes in him. A year and a half ago, the family reunited, but all of them remain in therapy and under close professional observation. I wouldn't have stopped on my own. At one point, I can remember after I had abused my daughter that I said to myself, that poor kid, I really need to stop this. Why can't I? I'd like to say to my dad that he shouldn't have done it to me. He shouldn't have done it at all. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. It was all my fault, and it never, ever should have happened to you. Never. The All-In-One ANZ Access Accord. It's a savings account, a credit card with ATM access, even an optional overdraft account. All in one, so you can keep everything neat and tidy. Simple, isn't it? Well, it is when you're bank with ANZ. Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot. Due to delays in renovations of the new Claremont showrooms, the Bedford Furniture Company South Perth store is still trading. All remaining furniture will be drastically reduced in one final total clearance until sold out. This is all quality stock that must be cleared. Yes, the Bedford Furniture South Perth store is still trading, and prices have been reduced even further. This is the final total clearance, so don't miss the opportunity to pick up quality furniture at never-to-be-repeated prices. And don't forget, Bedford Park is still trading as normal. The youth of today are the leaders of tomorrow, and we pay tribute to the drive and vision of West Australia's young people under 26 years through the Channel 10 Young Achiever Awards. Nominations are now open for the following categories. The Water Authority of WA Community Service Award. The Metro Brick Sports Award. The Department of Employment Education Training Career Achievement Award. The Sequoia Science and Technology Award. The Solomon's Carpets Arts Award. The Westshore West Farmers Rural Development Award. Category winners will receive $2,000 cash and a magnificent trophy. The ultimate winner, the Channel 10 Young Achiever of the Year, will win a first-class return trip for two flying Anset Australia and staying seven luxury nights with Hilton Hotels, plus a further $2,000. Channel 10 Young Achiever Awards nomination forms are now available from sponsors and Channel 10. The people we profiled on this program paid a tragic price for what they know about child abuse. Each of them has a final thought to share. I think people out there really should take a good hard look at themselves and their own family. I'm not going to say you're going to find something in your family that's inappropriate. I hope you don't. But if you do, I hope you find somebody that can help you. I would tell other men that you need to learn to communicate with everyone in your family without secrets. Secrets build upon secrets, and you are as bad as your secrets. I wish that there were people in my life who were informed on this stuff and who really knew the questions to ask. Like, point blank, look me straight in the eyes and ask me if I'm being molested or touched in any way that I feel uncomfortable with. If you're offending right now, I suggest if anything, you go get help. Because you can mess up somebody's life just as maybe somebody done messed up yours. I wish I had known. The reason that I lost my temper with my children was that my expectations were unrealistic. Not that their behavior was unacceptable. Once you open up and you let somebody know, it's going to make you feel better and you're going to get help. You're going to feel a lot more at ease with yourself and love yourself more and love your kids. Tell anybody, tell anybody who will listen. Tell your parent, tell your neighbors, your friends, tell your guidance counselor at school, tell your teachers, and tell somebody listens to you. Kids are afraid to tell, so they keep it silent. I wish there was a magic word or something that I could say to get kids to tell, to get parents to listen. Every adult in this country needs to listen. What you've just seen, I believe, could be the most important hour of television you'll ever see. And as I said back when I was going to jail because of a campaign against a child molesting priest. If it saves one child, then it's been worth it. And the same applies to Oprah Winfrey and scared silent tonight. It is an issue that must have the spotlight turned on it, must be talked about, must be aired, because light and knowledge are the two things that child molesters fear the most. Throughout the past hour you will have seen phone numbers that you can call for help and for expert advice, and those numbers will be screened again shortly. I won't say that I hope you enjoyed tonight's program. I just hope you watched, and I hope we helped. I hope children realize that's not life. Good night. Tonight's special, Scared Silence, brought to you by SGIO. If you or someone you know needs assistance or support because of abuse or neglect, please don't hesitate to call your nearest crisis line. Hard copy presented by Everstyle Furniture and Bedding. A story you'll find hard to believe. When his house caught fire, Scott Burns was a typical grieving husband and father. His wife, dead at his trip, was burned and scarred. But something was terribly wrong. Things just didn't add up. Many said the truth was lost in the ashes. This is not a movie. It's a real holdup that went wrong. In a blaze of gunfire, four armed bandits went down, shot by a man who said, Enough. One of his victims was a signal on the verge of stardom. The deadly spree caught by four video cameras for the first time, the bizarre San Bernardino shootout. They shout and scream their way through winter. Right now, they're reaching fever pitch. What about this tire around here? Who are the men who call the big games? And what makes them feared or favored? An exclusive look inside the commentary box. This is magnificent stuff. She's loved and hated. Roseanne Barr doesn't ask any favors and gets few. Now she's making a movie that involves her favorite people. Tonight on set with Roseanne, Tom and Elvis. Hot new young models. They've got a head start. Their moms are already big names. But some people say they're too young. At 13, they're just pretty babies. This is Hard Copy for Thursday, September 10, 1992. Hello and welcome. I'm Gordon Elley. We never really know what goes on behind the closed doors of the house up the street. The secrets of the Burns house are now hidden in the embers of a fatal fire that left a young mother dead and three baby daughters scarred for life. The embers hide dark secrets and leave disturbing questions about who started the blaze. You've got a major arson fire and a deceased woman and three burned babies. Very suspicious circumstances. I was destroyed. My life was destroyed that day. September twilight in a small Texas town. The weather burned humid, hot, and it grew even hotter as a small suburban house on Lola Street blazed out of control, leaving this man's wife dead and his three beautiful baby daughters badly burned. I had to identify them for the hospital and they were, you know, they were bad. What can I say? You know, they were bad. When the smoke cleared, only one person in that house would walk away without a scorch, the husband and father, Scott Burns. I would have never changed my mind that the man is guilty of setting that fire that killed his wife and burned his babies. Before the fire was even put out of my house, I was a target. By nightfall, firefighters believed that the man with the ironic last name was responsible for burning his house, killing his lovely wife, and scarring his beautiful babies. And as the investigation unfolded, so did an incredible mystery of life on Lola Street, of a day that began with a shotgun blast and ended in flames, and of Scott Burns' secret affair with a stripper. It was a mistake on my part to even, you know, have been involved with anybody during my marriage, but it was not an affair by any means. Scott and Patty's tragic love story began three years earlier. It was 1985. Patty Dusek was a beautiful 25-year-old studying to be a travel agent. To pay for school, she took a part-time job as a waitress at the Steak and Ale. Scott Burns was the bartender there, five years older and a smooth-talking ladies' man. They fell in love, and three months later, they were married. She was crazy about him. When they first met, she really adored the guy and did for a long time. Just a few months after their wedding night, the couple was given news of an ultimate blessing. Patty was pregnant with triplets. After we got over the initial shock, it was just totally wonderful. I mean, you know, buying everything in threes, and they were real happy about it. The Fort Worth News followed the pregnancy and covered the amazing birth of the identical triplets. Folks donated thousands of dollars to the financially struggling couple, but when the media attention died down and Scott Burns' responsibilities began to triple, the blessing of these babies turned into a burden. Scott's in-laws say that the gentleman began to change, became abusive, terrorizing Patty and taking complete control of her life. They say he used his new limousine business as an excuse to hang out with his clients in strip clubs, fraternizing with the topless dancers. I knew a lot of people in the club business. Being in the limousine business, I spent a lot of my time in clubs and promoting my company. Three months before the fire, Scott met a dancer at this Texas topless bar. Her name was Linda Herndon, but everyone knew her as Dallas. Scott and Dallas allegedly started a burning affair, an affair that ended up in court, with Linda as the star witness in Scott's trial of fire. How can you love someone? Is that love? To have extra marital affairs like that? I wouldn't call it an affair. I chipped one time during my marriage, and that was who I chipped with. Chip is a Texas term for sleeping around, but some say Scott's hot temper was worse than any hot affairs, and the day of the fire, investigators claim his temper was burning. A little afternoon, he was fighting with his wife. We know that she ran from the residence. He fired a 12-gate shotgun at her as she was trying to get the Bronco to leave. He chased her down the street to an elementary school several blocks from the house, curbed her car there, and beat her severely in front of numerous people. She called my mom from 7-Eleven and told her that her and Scott had been fighting, and he'd shot her truck, and she was extremely angry about it. And around 20 after 5 that evening, she called to talk to my mom again, and she told my mom that everything was fine. She was going to sleep and say goodbye. Less than an hour later, Patty's house was on fire. I was asleep on the couch and woke up, and the house was on fire. I screamed and hollered for Patty, then saw the children, and I couldn't turn my back on them to look any farther. I pulled the crib away from the heat and towards the window. The heat was incredible. At that point, I couldn't breathe, so I ran out and pulled them through the outside of the window. But firefighters on the scene tell a different story of Scott Burns. They say Scott did not help save his babies and that he didn't even bother to mention that his wife Patty was still inside the house until 20 minutes into the fire. I was well into the firing suppression activities before I became aware of the fourth victim, which would have been his wife. It looked very suspicious. The suspicions grew serious when the living room couch was examined, the couch Scott claimed he was sleeping on when the fire started. The point of origin for one of the fires that was set was on the couch where he was asleep. Had he been asleep on that couch, Mr. Burns would have been on the way to the hospital, if not to the morgue. I was the main suspect at that point. What are we to believe at 6 o'clock that he didn't set the fire? When he was the only one, they said it came from within, and he was the only one in there? Come on, what are we to believe? Soon, everyone in town believed Scott Burns was the arsonist. He was charged and forced to give Patty's parents custody of the triplets while he awaited trial. Then his criminal case began, and Dallas, the topless dancer, satiate into court, looking more like a secretary than a stripper. She told of her affair with Scott and then shocked the courtroom, claiming Scott called her the day before the fire, promising her his marriage would soon be over. But with all the evidence against him, the prosecution still could not prove that Scott Burns lit the match. The verdict was a stunner. Not guilty! It's been a three and a half year nightmare, and it ended, and now I'm gonna go see my children. The jury found him not guilty, and I'll have to live with that, even though I still believe to this day, and nobody will ever change my mind, that the man is guilty. For setting that fire that killed his wife and burned his babies. Today, Scott Burns is remarried. He and his new pregnant wife are fighting for custody of Scott's triplets. They are little ladies now, four years old, but they still have the scars that marked the day they lost their mother and their father was caught in smoky suspicion. It is a trauma this trio will never forget. Our daughter died. Those babies were burned, and you saw the scars. And he ended up with not even a singed hair. The triplets are the ones that got the last sentence out of this deal. They're scarred horribly. When they grow into young women, they'll never be able to, you know, wear shorts, swim suits. They lost their mother out of this. Just a horrific incident to have to live through. Overnight, they became a star. 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