just choose to caution that i i think
that there's a problem though that
exists right now because i haven't heard
you say anything yet
i'm still waiting for you to say
something that's going to convince me
to want to hear more i don't know i
don't hear anything because they're not
here to convince you of anything no but
but
if they're on a mission then how are
they going to call out and because what
you're doing is you're asking people to
have faith in something
that you that you can't even identify
yourself actually they're not asking
people to do anything at all
no you did let me explain to you what
they're doing no way
let me hear from them well i don't need
you you you're not necessarily i'm gonna
but
i don't know i don't want to hear from
you from there i won't explain but let
me tell you what what i was gonna
how the construction i was going to
admit i think there's three of them here
and they can figure it out i was simply
going to say
that that those who recognize this will
need to
have no convincing or no explaining at
all they'll just get it but then
i would say those are the most psychotic
people on earth because if you'll follow
something that hasn't been
explained see at least jesus had a
philosophy
at least he had a good word he had he
had a message a real message i don't
hear a message yet what is your message
you know like humans right now are like
minnows in the sea they all do the same
thing they all go to bed and they have
sex and they all go out and
have parties and they all talk about
this they talk about that what do they
do that's significant
that you're really leaving behind if
this is really a chance to link up with
a member of that kingdom
to take you to a place where there's a
real technology a real life
a real place where you don't have to
deal with all this human behavior and
greed and selfishness
and false love really false you know
it's not love at all
if you don't if you can't recognize that
there's value in overcoming the behavior
of this animal flesh
sure i do but i don't need anybody to
show me how to do you sure do let me
tell you something about your activity
you go home to your wife
you give her all her love well what what
do you what does your creator get i
don't need a personal nature
do you think your god will stand there
at the foot of your bed while you're
with your wife in bed
could you look up at your god and say
this is for you you you mean you're like
a little pet on a chain you need a
master to keep you from overeating and
over sleeping and over sexing
well you just go through all those
addictions and go with them but what if
you don't
i mean as far as i'm concerned i already
have a relationship with my christ
and he lives inside of me and he
communicates directly to me i don't need
anybody to take me to him well that's
what they that's what they said when
jesus came around too the jews had the
same feeling but
so you're saying that that that couldn't
possibly be true
what my statement seems to me that the
greatest the greatest gift of god the
greatest promise of god is that wildlife
that i need i need a little a little uh
task master like
what you have well i was just going to
say it seems to me that the greatest
promise go ahead go ahead
i was just going to say that if an
individual wants to make this transition
you need someone who has done it you
need someone who has gone through the
process
to take you through it where's the faith
in that it had the faith has to come
from the individual who
starts taking those first steps i mean
if god called us on the phone
why would we need faith if god said hey
i'm calling you hey david
hello david you're assuming phone yeah i
don't want you to have sex anymore
that's right no more sex and give up all
your earthly belongings that's right
follow me
yeah i'll be here i'll see you later one
one thing that we don't think that we've
we might have touched on enough is
that in that kingdom we know that they
are genderless
they do not need to reproduce no but
i'm asking a bigger question well why do
you need faith if you have somebody to
tell you what to do
even jesus didn't do that
right
you need to have faith that that
individual has the formula
to help you through that process so your
faith is in the older member
for instance i don't need anybody well i
i i suggest no one does
i've got to ask this question well you
won't get into the next level i'm not
worried about that because i believe
that exists
that's fine let me ask you this question
that's why i say you're hypnotized but
we feel
right but we feel this is a very
important time in the fact that when it
when a representative representative is
incarnate
in a in this environment on a
planet right it's a very special time
to connect with that individual and
um it's it's literally you're get being
given a chance to enter that kingdom be
to be able to be given that opportunity
i need to ask a very important question
are you therefore suggesting let's see
i've always thought that the greatest
promise of our creator
greatest promise of our creator was that
divine messengers
notwithstanding each of us have built
into
into us the ability and the opportunity
to find our way back to god if you want
to put it that way
by ourselves that we each had that that
very few
very few actually did it but most of us
in fact might need a teacher or a
messenger
but that built into each human soul was
at least the potential
or the opportunity to find our way back
home
on our own that's that is basically the
thrust of david's remarks
and the way that you find it is by that
recognition of the rep when he comes is
that
if you find your way back this is the
path that he's offering to you is the
recognition that there's a wrap out is
there the only path
is it the only path is what is the
message there's only one
path to actually uh tr make a transition
from the human kingdom
to the level above you yeah and that
requires leading humanness behind human
behavior
indeed no but one could do that without
meeting your older member i
i've already started this process there
would have to be a rep from that kingdom
and right now he's the only rep here
that's from that kingdom
however see the the picture is not quite
right because
the next level doesn't need us it
doesn't need you all doesn't need
anybody out here they can function fine
without need is not even above okay
now what they do is periodically they've
nurtured souls for a long period of time
and periodically they look to see which
souls might be uh
some they could use in their king in
their kingdom to do tasks
okay so it's like a rancher goes out and
there's a whole herd of horses and
they're all wild
he looks for the ones that he can maybe
gather around that might be trainable
and he takes those and he sets them
aside then he sends a trainer down
that trainer starts to say well this
horse that maybe is good for riding this
one might be pull a buggy
but some of these horses aren't really
trainable they're bucking too much they
don't want to be trained so
i'm going to just put them back into the
range or and uh
you know they're not going to be used so
what we're talking about is this next
kingdom
so yes there's there's a little
potential for each one of those horses
to be gathered in there
and to be usable so by the next level in
other words what you want at any cost is
to be in the kingdom
yeah yes at any cost
but you don't even know why you're in
other words what jesus's message was
repent and be saved well what's the
message of your master
same one you know you might as well be
their leader i guess you are no i'm just
saying i've already heard it they've
said it i never heard that well i never
heard the word repentance
mentioned once and i asked them if they
were sin and he said well
so you don't even know what repentance
is we go through daily
exposing the things about us that we
feel are not
common to members of the next level in
other words if we have little ego or we
have anger in the morning or we have a
bad moods or anything like that we
surface it we ask each other to help us
see all the things in us
that separate separate us from our
heavenly father or from that member of
the kingdom of
god that's been given to us
see humans can't do that on their own
it's like having an addiction expecting
to conquer it just
because on your own you need someone
who's but you're addicted to your master
well that's right just like jesus said i
am the truth and the way in the life no
one comes to the father but through me
but you're addicted to your master
but couldn't that be said of christians
to some fundamentalist christians to be
fair they're addicted to their
their point of view well but i'm only
i'm only pointing out the uh they've
traded one addiction for another the
the uh inconsistency there we we're
trying to give up our
earthly addictions but we're
transferring that addiction to another
source yeah you've trained which is
still an addiction saying they've traded
one addiction for another
yeah well is that in fact were true
again being their ambassador in the room
is that in fact we're true and we agree
i think you are their leader if that if
that in fact were true and we accepted
come on admit it now
if that in fact were true and we
accepted your construction
then they've then they have in fact um
accepted a larger addiction a a a
behavioral perhaps a more destructive
addiction
we'll see yeah i mean jesus you know the
truth and the truth
why would you say a relationship with
your creator could be an addiction why
would you put your creator down like
that
my creator i haven't made any reference
toward my creator let's make a reference
toward your crew let's go to the phone
this is actually a radio talk show
and let's take some calls from the
audience here's jack on line one jack
thank you uh uh addressed my remarks to
your guests
i'm sure your guests expected to
encounter some cynicism
uh when they started to deliver their
message
and i should assume you understand why
someone from the christian tradition
would be at least
cautious and a bit skeptical when first
encountering people
like you with your message am i correct
yeah did you expect to to encounter some
skepticism
yes we did okay let's let me continue
then
um we're not we're not trying to
convince anybody we're not recruiting
you you don't sound like you are how's
our view you don't sound like you are to
me either
you don't sound insincere to me either i
want to tell you one of the rubs that i
have
um jesus a long time ago told us to
beware you know beware of people who
appear to
be coming from a good place he called
them you know false messengers
wolves and sheep's clothing and and so
we're kind of cautious you know you
might be someone like that you
understand our caution
i wonder if your elder member has given
you
revealed to you what how does one
how does he recommend that we tell the
the true
messenger from the other wolves and
sheep's clothing
how do you and how do you advise others
to uh
what filter do you recommend they use to
filter out the false prophets and
recognize the true ones
i know the answer to that one too well
it's a recognition of the information
so there's no decision to be made i mean
you're simply overwhelmed by
so if in other words people listening to
you now if we do not
instantly recognize we simply you're
simply not
sent to us you're sent to others
well you would have to recognize the
information that we have to offer
we feel that when we did individually
there was nothing else that we could do
but follow the information so
your message would resonate with me if
it was intended for me
yes unless it was the first time that
you really had contact with a member
of that kingdom and then it would be
like a new deposit within your soul
to where you could start to grow and the
next level
that's what he was talking about when he
said you could be saved for another time
if you believed on me because
what he was saying was that those
weren't ready to go
then have any of you ever have any of
you ever encountered any false
messengers and how did you
how could you tell they were false
messengers well jesus said that you
would know them by their ways
and the ways of our our uh organization
if you want to call it that
is that all human behavior is really
primitive to us
is really something to be outgrown it's
a stepping stone it's not that it's bad
it's just the place that individuals can
recognize that they've had their fill of
this world
that's basically and typical to jesus's
message and we know that overcoming
every aspect of human behavior
is that the fruit that he was talking
about
i mean the idea that we were born in sin
that we are sinners that were slaves to
sin
is why he came to set us free you're
saying that we're just going through an
evolutionary stage and it's not really
bad it's just there's something better
it just it just sounds so let's take
another call jack
thanks for going here's jim online too
jim hey how you doing all right
uh my question uh to your guest is this
um
is there an older uh member jesus christ
that question was already asked
the answer
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it's not it's not anyone's fault but
this there's been so much misinformation
in this kingdom level that has people
think of themselves as individuals and
think of their bodies as being something
significant
as far as an individual but the real
truth is that jesus himself was the one
who said that i don't want to give you
anything except what the father gives me
and everything that i'm telling you is
what the father has given me to say
the mind of his father was flowing
through him the mind of his older member
was going through
his physical body and he was giving that
to everybody freely
so when he said he would come again he
wasn't talking about him as an
individual because he thought of himself
as a tool for his father to use
and so when he when that same
information comes again it's the same
family the same uh vibration information
it's the same uh
knowledge ways behavior it's a big
package for those of you in the local
calling area
listing here locally the meeting is the
sixth of june monday night at seven
o'clock at the jackson county courthouse
auditorium should you choose to attend
for those of you listening across the
country you'd like more information give
us a call
here at the network and we'll pass on to
you whatever is left with us
our guests tonight have been it's too
late from the
i'm sorry don't know what to next level
for the next one maybe next time
all right and um we thank you for being
here thank you for sharing your because
i know it's difficult to
articulate this message in a way that
people aren't kind of criticizing so
thanks for your
willingness to do that and uh we will be
back here on monday night i know you're
their leader
i'm not their leader but i'm i'm uh i
could be i could have been you never
know
you are the older you know i am the
older girl yeah all right
i know that you know about it should i
recognize that i've known all along
i did that's why i've kind of kept my
distance
whatever you do tonight touch other
people's life in a way that allows them
to know
what true love really is have a nice
night everyone god bless you
good night everybody
makes you want to keep
you speak to the camera
people have sympathy
um
he's scared
me
you have to take to know that we already
six
is
um
and what does it mean what are the
people that
decline themselves of all forms of
desire to starve their bodies
is
a group of hermes would be kind of a
wouldn't be hurt it might be her
her mites they wouldn't be her you know
deny what they are you can't beat her
what's up
yody's losing his money i've been doing
it all day
i think it's rubbing off i don't know
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use that elegant
because you normally don't associate
more
um
is
cody says yeah you can have
well chicago is where we
does it strike the shepherd and sheep
is there a reference to the bible
in chicago
oklahoma city i guess we had a good head
there from east
took
right