getting performance out of your your
vehicle that you never
demanded of it before and you never knew
that you had
idiosyncrasies before until you you're
put in circumstances and part of the
overcoming process is
you know we've been partnered in our
classroom with almost every individual
here
and it's not you know a relationship
like a human like we said where you fall
back on
you know other things you are learning
things about yourself that you never
knew
that your container necessarily had
before
or sometimes even your soul and learning
to get control of that
and trying to get a behavior that's more
or match i mean most of you
have in your consciousness some idea
of what an angelic being how they would
behave even though we don't want to use
religious terms
but we are striving for a behavior
that's more refined
that kingdom level is much more refined
in their relationships and responses
than this kingdom
just like the human kingdom hopefully
for the most part is more refined
or more advanced than the animal kingdom
although it's debatable at times
but we are trying to learn a behavior
and a conduct and a control
that's a whole kingdom strata above
where we are now
and that is you know it's a literal
training process that we're going
through it's nothing spiritual nothing
religious about it we're trying to learn
the basics of control and behavior
you know it's just very simple
after all these years we'd like to
answer or address people who raise their
hands if you wouldn't mind because there
are
other individuals in the audience who
have questions been waiting patiently to
ask them
and
well yes he does but for us to really
talk about it
first of all we don't know what it would
be like okay
it's like a dog trying to understand
what's
you know what's happening in a
corporation's warden
uh we just don't have the computer
itself these brains
is like a 8086
computer as compared to a you know
what do you have a cray or something
okay and so
we don't really know how to talk about
that but we understand that he does have
a physical body but
it may be a physical that we wouldn't
define in the physics of this planet
as physical is that is that a problem
you say you don't drink and you you
don't smoke
what type of food do you eat well
we've been through a wide range of
different types of diets
over the years for a time we thought
that
perhaps it was to help purify these
bodies in preparation for
our eventual transformation into new
creatures
and so we experimented with
vegetarianism
we've tried fruitarian diet for a while
we were on a lemonade fast for 38
days we're on a water fast for 12 days
and
what we finally arrived at was that
these were simply all
experiments in determining whether or
not we were willing to adapt to that
diet trusting that the outcome would be
for
our best interest in our best interest
and the
byproduct of that effort was a type of
flexibility
and recognition of resilience that we
had didn't have
prior to that but at this point in time
we pretty much consume whatever is
offered to us
outside of seafood and you know anything
that's
obviously not fit to eat uh
seafood we primarily don't eat simply
because it
the standards of what's okay and what
isn't okay in that industry are somewhat
questionable at this time and
the oceans and rivers of this planet are
pretty badly polluted
one some people are are
rightfully concerned sometime with diet
and consuming and
we do feel like originally when the
planet was first set up perhaps you know
if you go back to the records
it was more appropriate and the better
food was maybe fruits vegetables and
nuts
but we found through even our own
experimentation that man has so
tampered with that product that it no
longer resembles
what it was then i mean it's
cosmetically nice it has a long shelf
life
but nutritionally it's it's really
pretty poor even if you go
strictly organic it's very difficult to
get the
sustenance you need we tried it
even for a small person like i am i mean
i would have to sit down in the morning
when we were on fruit and i'd have
you know 12 oranges and a pile of nuts
and then four hours later i'd be
you know having a pile of carrots i mean
we would be consuming
so much volume and still not have the
stamina that
we think was intended when those
products those fruits those vegetables
were put on this planet and we feel like
that's just an indication that this
plant is
is time to to have a recycling time time
for a break
and that i mean as our containers
can react to that the plants can react
to that pretty severely as
as a negative but really that's a
merciful thing for the planet
the planet has served well it needs a
break
the the population has over taxed it
can't support the life on this planet
anymore
and even though we're talking possibly
about
you know major loss of vehicles or
containers
we also know that that's really not what
what is a value here anyway it's what's
inside the container
that is of value and we know that
nothing of value will be lost
so there's a big picture happening now
and you can
you know you can look to the scientific
community and they'll tell you about
an ecosystem and that is beyond repair
by humans an ozone layer that is
as we all know got a very big hole in it
and you can turn to the tv evangelist
and they know
that something's happening the increase
in ufo sightings that
all of that is not business as usual on
this planet there is something
significant happening out there
and if people you know even you know the
media tries to sweep it under the carpet
but if you look at the weather systems
the natural catastrophes that have
happened it all adds up to this
there is something major going on here
and what we're telling you is a
part it is move up time
just says let's say in the animal
kingdom if you look at
a gorilla who now has the capacity to
use a macintosh computer
or a dolphin who communicates with its
master those
or whatever you want to call that life
force that's in that vehicle
is is pushing the upper envelopes of
what they can perform and they're ready
for a new
set of clothes a new container that has
greater capacities and it's
it's time for them to move up and it's
the same thing in the human kingdom
there are humans who have experienced
so much of this spectrum of what is
available at the human kingdom that they
are ready to move up
and this it's all peaking at this time
and we're not going to you know
play the prophet and say it's going to
happen on this day or that day but we
know that this
is a certain segment of time that has
been talked about for a long period and
is
very significant to all of us
one of the main reasons we don't have
the time or the date is simply that
the next level waits and sees what the
response is
to this second wave or second harvest or
second rapture whatever you want to call
it in other words it's like as this
information goes out there and people
respond
the next level may let things continue
and keep everything under control so
people have time to go through their
changeover
and we don't know whether one person is
going to respond or a hundred or a
thousand
or a hundred thousand hundred forty four
thousand but we don't know what's gonna
happen
so we're playing it and uh you know sort
of day by day
on what they tell us is happening so we
we look to the next level for everything
that we do and
when it's time for us to know all these
more you know details of how it all
works we'll be we feel like we'll be
filled in with them
the next level has no time but yet there
is only a certain time
where the individuals have who have
chosen to
shed their humanness english the next
level can do so
so what happens to the people like when
you're when your leaders came down
in 1975 around that time what happened
to people who were on the same path as
you
and who had chosen to go up to the next
level and they
and their physical bodies died did they
just miss their chance
or what happens to their health do they
come back to another human form
and start their whole path again or do
they still have their knowledge or
do they go on okay it's our
understanding that
if say tomorrow one of us were to be hit
by a truck or something and lose our
vehicle
that nothing that we had accomplished up
to this point would be lost and if we
had
reached a stage where the next level
determined that
the sole occupying this body this
vehicle was viable
compatible with a next level vehicle
then it would receive that new vehicle
if that individual is not ready to do
that then the next level would certainly
make
the necessary arrangements for that soul
to pick up
on its lessons wherever it left off
as far as what happens to all those
spirits or souls out there that don't
come in contact with this information we
don't
have enough knowledge about that to
speak about it accurately
any more than we can say well
uh draw any meaning from uh there are a
thousand
millions of fish in the sea and if you
get caught if you get eaten
and so what happens to the ones that
don't get caught
i mean it's just there's there's only so
much information we've got about
the whole picture we just know that it
goes in cycles like
we have very little record but we know
there was like atlantis lemuria there
were previous civilizations
and we know this one's running for
approximately 6 000 years it's about to
end
there's going to be a recycled mint of
all of the
environment and all we've been told is
that anything that's
worth keeping that's in forward motion
that's valuable
will be saved to be replanted and the
whole thing will start again
but we don't know exactly the details
and we don't think we're supposed to
know
in other words it's just beyond what
we're supposed to know
um you pretty much have uh
uh let's back up talk about conventional
paths like religion and then there's the
unconventional paths that you
refer to like uh uh that
the zillion and one new age uh avenues
that you can take
and you pretty much
inadvertently or intentionally
discredited them
or said well in fact they're not they
appear to be they're really
luciferian or they're a dubious origin
and so you you want to stay away from
them
are you suggest is in your view are
there any other
paths that will result in this evolution
i mean are you saying that you 48 people
are the only
the only souls that are going to make an
evolutionary jump is there something
that
are there other paths that this could
result in
that aren't your particular path
are you the only 48 people who are going
to who have who have access to the truth
and to the uh well today the idea about
the lotion
we okay here first of all let me say
that
any path that gets you to the top of the
mountain is fine
and we would encourage people to pursue
whatever
path they feel inclined to pursue as
long as they don't find that that's a
stopping place
because once you arrive at feeling like
well you've got
all the answers but you still remain in
the human condition
then you're still in the human condition
what we're saying is
that to the best of our knowledge the
information we're sharing with you
is the only way off the mountain and we
would be dishonest to say that we would
think
we think otherwise it would be like us
saying uh
well we're sorry we we know that this is
the only way but
we'd rather not talk about it and
deprive those souls that are ready to
take this leap the opportunity
to do so because our concern is that
there are some souls ready for this step
and those are the ones we're trying to
reach this
opportunity may not come to them again
and so our our focus is on helping those
individuals
take that step if that's what they want
to do okay so but
in your view you are the only healing
path or at least the only path that you
know of uh you were you were the sole
purveyors of truth and i don't mean it
in statistical thought
this is well like maybe we could
approach this from another angle
let's just try a whole different way of
looking at it this is like
a family reunion okay in other words
we're part of a family of the soul not
not of the vehicles
okay what we're doing is we're here
looking for other members of the family
now as we
tried to say and it's hard to talk about
this because we've all been programmed
that this is nonsense but
it's like there's a lot of families okay
and
therefore if you follow certain
spiritual techniques
you can join other families you may even
be able to go to another
star system with the ashtar command or
something they may come here and pick
people up we don't know
but what we're saying is this is the
only way that you enter
what we what what our family is where we
want to go
where people are genderless you know
where
they are mere children they're not gods
they're little children
starting out as little babes in a
kingdom level
where they look to a father to a line of
fathers
in other words this is the structure of
this family and those who are interested
in joining this family
will recognize that these are the family
traits that they want there's many other
families
and those methods may well work to get
them into those families
so it's more a choice for which family
you want to belong to then this is the
only way
this is the only way into this
particular family so you're not saying
that the
other families are corrupt or misguided
or uh or lose very very yeah we're
saying the other families are either
mammalian or reptilian or something
other than
purely androgynous beings
see the bottom line is that anything on
this in this experiment can be used for
growth
it's not what you get into it's that
importance what you get out of
and it's perfectly natural and perfectly
commonsensical to think in terms of
if you're going to go to a place that's
totally different
their ways of acting their ways of
thinking their ways of
the things they like to do the you know
the behavior the
function that they have is all very
different you have to leave
the old ways behind if you really wanted
to become
you know a frenchman that could go over
to france and blend in and no one would
know that you
from or from somewhere else well then
you probably study pretty hard
with their culture and their language
and their etiquette and everything about
them so that you can go there and be one
of them
well that's like what we're doing now
all these other things all these other
roads all these other options
religious religions spiritual paths
there they can all accomplish
giving a soul certain lessons and
certain experiences
but unfortunately most of it is going to
show you what's not real
but doesn't mean it's a negative while
you're in it the only negative is
staying with it so long that you get
stuck in it
and so we're saying that after you've
gone through so many searches
so many paths you've meditated to to
where you feel like the nothingness
has you know you're part of that
nothingness which to us doesn't make
sense you know
we've done those kind of things and
we've believed in them to some degree
over you know before we even we met our
teachers
but it didn't get us to what we felt was
solid
real service in a kingdom level that was
real
so this put all the pieces together in
our computers
and if it doesn't for somebody else then
we say go for what puts the pieces
together for you but
we feel like anyone is going to want to
be out of the human kingdom
eventually if they're given the chance
we'll have to come upon a formula that
separates them totally from the human
kingdom
and we also do think that this is the
only formula that will have you overcome
death that you will not have to go
through that recycling process again
because whether you
you know the other families that matt
was talking about they are subject to
death and decay this is the only it's
only when you make an actual kingdom
level
leap an actual transition into this
kingdom level can you
leave behind that recycling process so
we are
in a sense very literally overcoming all
the other things are part of a
holographic classroom
but the only place where you're going to
have you know
everlasting life and all these things is
outside of this whole time and space
continuum
and the only thing that's outside of
time and space is the thing that created
time and space as an experiment that's
the kingdom of heaven
evolutionary level above human and
that's where
we feel like we're going and others you
know like when you say
you say only the 48 or whatever
everybody you know anybody out there who
wants to do this can do it
so you know it's not like it's limited
it's not like some elitist thing
anybody out there can do it if they want
to
also want to clarify that we i don't
know where the number 48 came
from but
we don't know exactly how many there are
doing this
there were 24 there were 24 people that
completed
the 18 years uh in seclusion in the
monastery whatever however you want to
phrase it for lack of a better word
hundreds started 24 finished and since
then it's expanded as people have joined
we don't know where we stand
gym or is this a physical death i'm just
wondering if there's a contradiction
in terms of judgment no it was a
physical
death of the vehicle in other words the
body died
and the soul occupying that body
returned to its rightful place in the
heavens
returned to its body in the heavens
now while tea was incarnate here
it was especially towards the end of the
classroom experience
for her a very frustrating experience
because
she was aware of a lot of knowledge
a lot of mind if you will surrounding
your vehicle that
she simply could not pull through that
primitive circuitry
it was like trying to plug in you know
a thousand gigawatt voltage into a tiny
little wire that really was not designed
to handle that
and a great deal of uh
the information that she had had to be
translated
to us through dough in other words he
had to serve as
as a connection between us and her even
though the words she chose were
generally very simple
it was clear after he explained what her
thinking was that there was a lot much
bigger picture there than
we could comprehend upon just listening
to her words alone
and she knew all along that she was here
just to get him started
in other words it's his task in the same
sense that
at least for this time it's our task to
talk to you it's not that though
couldn't come up here and do a lot
better job
but it's our chance to you know
use what we've learned plus we're much
closer to where you're at because
we haven't been up there and had you
know been in glorified bison and stuff
we're much closer we're younger and
therefore we can relate better to what
you deal with because
we've dealt with it more recently
not the human definition of love yes i
want to categorize it
is there this riding pervasive feeling
involved
do you watch uh star trek the next
generation i have
okay there's an individual on board that
crew who is supposedly an android
who is supposedly devoid of all human
emotions
yet in our view and we could be wrong
about this he demonstrates compassion
for the rest of his crew that far
exceeds any compassion
the any of the others on that crew are
capable of demonstrating
simply because he is totally willing to
put himself last
if he sees that that is the best way to
handle the circumstance
and there are countless times when they
rely on him to
pull them out of a deep hole of trouble
because they know they can rely on his
objectivity and his ability to
see the pers the circumstance from a
totally non-personal point of view
he sees it from the point of view of the
interest of the crew
and he puts the proof first and that in
our view
is demonstrating a type of compassion
that's very rare at the human level
yes but that's not to say that members
of the next level are all
of that nature without there's emotion
in the next level
there is the feeling of love is very
strong
but it's not human love human love
usually is selfishly based
and what i can i call give because i
want something back and even
subconsciously
you know like take an example of two
people who love each other they say they
love each other and they try to act that
way
and one of them all of a sudden starts
to just you know say oh well
i'm a little interested in going a
little separate that love
can turn to hate just like that it's an
example of how
fragile what humans call love is and how
based on it's not based on something
that's real tangible and real you know
full of depth but the next level's love
is
first of all remember to say okay
i'm going to do a task a task is offered
or they volunteer to leave a physical
body that's
like a space shuttle compared to a model
t in the human kingdom
in other words i'm going to go down to
that kingdom
and i'm going to try to interface with
that model t kind of computer
in order that i can tell you about it
okay that's what a member of the next
level is willing to give up
to the time period of doing a test now
even while he's down here doing that
task he is subject to all the misery
of this environment it would be like
going into the dog pit
you know and mingling with the dogs and
living with them and being aware that
you're not a dog
but and so there's a lot of love there
plus
do you know how many times we put our
older member through the ringer
as far as you know how slow we've been
to understand certain things and change
our behavior and he's
he's constantly tolerant of us but
intolerant at the same time
to help us grow and
i mean there's a demonstration upon
demonstration of love in the next level
the main reason we don't talk about is
because it's very
difficult to be objective in to separate
you know
lust from love and what true love is and
so
sometimes our presentation can come
across as being you know more
intellectual but
um anything that you
you know you can see that we might give
up on a human level is replaced a whole
octave higher
on that kingdom level i mean you have to
know that if the creator created all
this he's not going to have a kingdom
level that doesn't have
satisfactions and emotions compassion
that far exceeds this level
i mean it's a whole strata higher just
like the human kingdom has a whole set
of emotions that far
are you know advanced of the animal
kingdom it's the same thing
so in other words you're not trying to
get rid of a sense of humor or you're
not trying to get rid of love
you're trying to get rid of the part of
it the characteristics of it that
are only human and adapt those to the
next also in other words if your
vehicle if your genetic past sort of got
a kick out of the humor that put
somebody down
or was sarcastic or in other words got
its kicks out of
seeing somebody else's misery or even
causing it
you you realize well gee that's not the
way next level humor is so you abort
that part of the humor
and you pull in more of a silly human i
mean there's nobody sillier than us i
mean we might seem a little serious here
because we're faced with this big
audience and
we're not exactly you know polish
speakers
but in reality when we're working
together as a crew
i mean we're pretty silly i mean one of
the main characteristics of being able
to do this task is sense of humor
if you can't keep your sense of humor
you know your pain quotient goes up
because you're faced with overcoming
things and
it's like the more you can laugh at it
anybody especially
new people can testify that you know if
you can keep your sense of humor
and and laugh at yourself laugh at
what's going on
makes it a lot easier yeah you know it
makes the medicine go down when you add
a little sugar
so it's more pleasant
yes before i speak
please don't put that up
this is a question about it maybe
referring to what the
speaker the center was talking about
with um
fruits being realer
at an earlier time and i'll try to
figure out the
figure out the space but um
of all your members are are all of them
white
that are gonna repeat the question uh
you were asking if all of our members
were white well you there's dustin up
there
and then we have uh
skies out front maybe i don't know no
they're not all white
okay we just happen to be a white crew
here
liberals yeah yes we have from all races
all races all and the age varies quite a
bit too from what you probably see here
we're just
doing different tasks
there's no um there's no we try to
not see anybody according to race sex
age
any of that i mean those are all
characteristics that are right
you know sexual preference in the past
there's like whether you're
a homosexual or bisexual or heterosexual
all that
it's got to go away and we don't care
what you did before
uh if you were in prison and you know
you did something terrible well
if you're not that person now then we we
want you with us you know
and we don't have the females just doing
the laundry and cooking in the mails
doing the
cars you know it just seems that like
everything
down through time or is it everything
that you see about let's say aliens
secret societies um cult if you want to
use that term is
always white and always white-based and
it just seems like you know how can
a primarily white group be rewarded with
the next level
if they've committed you know the most
evil heinous crimes
throughout history well one thing is the
soul you know we're talking about the
soul
doesn't have any color and then have
white and have black it's just a soul
now the vehicle that's assigned to for
its most
uh for the lessons that it