came up afterwards and said well you
know we believe it's true
what do we do and they said well we're
going from city to city
we're putting on meetings and if you'd
like to help us that's fine
so we did that and then we started a
classroom after doing that for several
months
the classroom being we were with these
two individuals for this time
and we actually you know spent time
living with them seeing how they acted
how they talked how they dressed how
they handled a
wide wide range of normal human
activities
and we asked them many many questions
got many many answers
so we developed what has been called a
personal relationship with the
representative
and well i mean we were there for 18
years and
for a good years and years we actually
lived in the same houses with them
so when we say that we know how they
think or how they act and therefore what
the conduct is
in the kingdom of heaven we're speaking
from personal experience we're not
speaking from something we learn in a
textbook
but you know i hope that clarified a
little bit
now we've we've talked a lot and we've
gosh
i can see all kinds of areas where you
probably have questions
okay we'll get to those we'll try to
fill in some more
but don't be mistaken to think that this
is a christian
message christian information
the one who came 2000 years ago wasn't
christian by any means
he wasn't part of any denomination and
the terminology that we have now
is what we have to talk to you with and
it just so happens that the lat
the representative that came that
brought the formula
of transition out of this kingdom
he was the one that all those people
wrote about
and made a religion around now when he
left when he physically left
that's when the dilution
of what he was talking about began
and from that point on it became less
and less accurate
in other words the details and the
thinking and even the ability to tune
into the reality of that kingdom
started to fade more and more because it
was like
you weren't a physics uh professor yet
and you're in a physics lab and your
physics teacher leaves through half the
semester
and then what do you got left all you
can do maybe the best you could do is
try to remember what he taught while he
was here
but in order to maintain that
comprehension you need that teacher
there to
say no that's not quite accurate and why
is that
why would it fade
well there's a lot of reasons
but i mean the human brain
itself is very imaginative and always
tries to insert things into its own
computer
in order to justify its own behavior
that's part of it
and when there's no older member there
in other words a member in that kingdom
who had
who has incarnated in the human kingdom
to be with you to physically be able to
talk to you and correct you and
help you stay on track well then there's
no way to do it on her own
that's why you know the book that people
have put together
a bunch of writings and said this is the
bible that's why it says that
you need he's the only way and you can
only go through that individual
and you need a personal relationship to
do so it's not christian
we're not meaning to offend anybody but
it's just not a christian thing
it's a simply an astronaut training
program
where an individual is trying to
interface with
students that actually were even
prepped beforehand and knew they would
even be coming
incarnating themselves in order to
finish their classroom
now i think i got off creating my own
gaps but
uh the the one thing that
both i think oliver and well we probably
all touched upon
is that there is forever options
in in the human kingdom and in the level
above human
they are the most pro-choice that there
is
they want people to become exactly what
they want to become
as good or as wrong
now good in their eyes is wanting to be
like
the creator because i mean there's no
nothing else that can top that
so what do they do they design the human
kingdom and they design
all the parameters every aspect
every thought if they didn't design the
thought they thought they designed the
ability to think it
and they allowed everyone to make
choices constantly
and they also provided someone who would
work against them
to provide a certain range of choices
that certain people might want to take
it just so happened that because there
is continually an option to
make choices that a member that was a
member in that
evolutionary level above human chose
to not to no longer look to his older
member other words every member in that
kingdom has
someone who's been there longer that he
can look to or she can look to
in order to get updated information
updated behavior
task assignments
and it's by looking to those older
members that we grow
now this individual that we're talking
about
however it happened probably happened
over a period of time
started thinking that he no longer
needed to look through that chain
of information that channel or that
chain of mind of all the members to
younger members
and said well i can tap into this myself
i can do this my older member he doesn't
make such good choices all the time
i can probably come up with the same
thing or maybe something better i can
even improve on the things that he's
given me
and so he started to drift apart looking
to
himself thinking that
he had gained enough information about
that kingdom
and had become a significant being
himself
to where now he could be have his own
kingdom
or now this level above human was well
aware that he was going through this
and gave him multiple opportunities to
get hooked up again
they do they give more than adequate
opportunities for anybody who starts to
go down a certain path that's
ultimately going to lead to destruction
in a real sense
gives them many opportunities to change
and turn around and say
help me get back on the path i'm
straight and narrow so to speak
but this individual didn't seem to take
those opportunities
and he drifted further and further away
and to where it was inevitable that the
next level
said okay enough we're going to actually
send you out of our kingdom
you're no longer going to have that hook
up that connection that will give you
eternal life eternal life is not
something that is
you sign on the dotted line okay i
believe in this
and all of a sudden you are granted
eternal life and you never die and
everything
no you only have eternal life as long as
you stay connected to a representative
and you
hold on to his coattails or that
individual's coattails with all your
might and hope
that you can keep up with that
individual's growth
and not ever find yourself turning away
or looking to some other source
that's when you have eternal life it's a
moment-to-moment thing
now this individual lost that connection
of his own free will and because of that
he was
restricted to the area of the heavens
that we refer to as
the earth and the garden and whoever we
don't know exactly what the parameters
are
of the experiment but he is confined to
this experiment
and he is a part of it now a part of it
meaning
he is being used as a part of the
experiment that
gives options to each creature on this
planet
and he gives good options from some
perspectives
in other words he's not a person with
horns and a
tail and a red you know evil he doesn't
go
carve up animals and sacrifice them to
the gods he's a refined individual
that knows an awful lot about how a
garden grows and how
there is a real kingdom level above
human
but his intentions are not the
intentions of
members of that real kingdom of god
his intentions are self-serving and even
vengeful
against the kingdom that banished him
because of his own choices
and so what you see in the world right
now
is i don't know what the percentage
might be is 99
or is it 99.9 you see his
thinking his desires
his form of evolution or his concepts
which are completely opposite in a lot
of ways from
true information and so we refer to what
he would say
as misinformation because he's got
several motivations
and he's got a number of individuals
that went with him
loyal to him they were given choices too
but they chose to be on his team
and they are all in opposition now
they're not all conscious of it
anymore then you go to the united states
government and you see certain people
that are in the know and then there's
certain people behind the scenes that
pull the purse strings
and really have control and the people
then there's other people that
you know they just think they're part of
some republican party or democratic
party and
they think the president's the top
fellow little do they know
but so these members that are part of
this individual that we refer to as
lucifer for lack of a better name that's
the name that
the history books say that his name was
and you've got he's got a crew of
individuals that
are working for him and they know
varying degrees they don't think of him
as the devil
there may be some that recognize that he
broke away from that kingdom
but they look to him as their captain
and so they've lost several things
they've lost that connection of eternal
life so therefore their souls
and they have souls are perishable souls
in other words they will have an end
they will not be permitted to continue
on infinitum
and they also lost the ability to have
a physical body that is
imperishable but maybe i got my terms
wrong
incorruptible soul and an imperishable
body
see in that next level they have
physical bodies that don't need to decay
they're not in a decaying environment
and so they don't need to recycle them
every so often
it doesn't mean that one could not be
damaged if it was in an environment
and there was some some something that
happened by accident or some for some
reason
that damaged it but if it was damaged
they would not lose consciousness and
they would move from that body into
another body
just like putting on a different suit of
clothes now this one that's called
lucifer
he look that body that he had when he
was in that kingdom
started to decay started to it was no
longer connected to an eternal vine
in a real sense and so what does he want
and what do other members in his crew
that also have decaying bodies want
they're looking for new bodies so that
they can incarnate into them
and they know it's a very simple thing
they know how to just move out of one
body into another one
it's like putting on another suit of
clothes they even teach it to others
leave your body travel in the astral
you know be an ascended master and what
are you ascending
sorry we hate to hit some of the sacred
cows but
it's his thinking that is the whole
mindset
of cosmic consciousness universal mind
these are his terms
he is the one that thinks that he can
tap into the universal mind of cosmic
consciousness and is a god himself
members of the level above human we're
talking about they don't want to be gods
they don't want to be looked at by other
people as something special
they just happen to possess a link and
so when they're given a task
to be a link and demonstrate what they
know
so that younger members have a chance to
become members in that kingdom
well then it's their honor to do so and
yet they do so with
real humility because they don't want to
really
be seen as anything special but these
individuals that say oh listen to me
you've got the god within you you can be
a god yourself
the funny thing is is that there's truth
to it and there's always truth
with the misinformation you know there's
that's saying that the cia wraps the
truth or two bits of misinformation
around one bit of truth
and they send it out and then people buy
it they buy the whole package
well the cia didn't get those ideas on
their own
there's a lot of people pulling the
strings behind the scenes behind the
human
scenes and that's what we refer to as
space aliens
that's what we refer to as lucifer and
his crew
and any individuals who have become in
service to him
and it's a big picture we're not going
to talk about a lot of that
here but we wanted you to have at least
that segment of it
i wonder if we could just describe a
little bit more since our poster does
address the ufos and the space aliens
what sawyer was talking about
the luciferians we all kind of lump into
one category but like he said long long
time ago
and most of the these space aliens don't
even know where their beginnings came
from
they separated from that kingdom and
proliferated
so there are many races of space and
aliens that have been reported whether
they're pleiadians or arcturians or
whatever
you know if anyone has delved into the
ufo
literature and and discussions and
whatnot you know that there have been
many different races that have been
been recorded and they are all offshoots
of the initial
um luciferian for lack of a better term
king well there wasn't really a kingdom
but from that segment of the heavens
and like we said they don't know their
beginnings any more than most of us
sitting here really know
our true beginnings and just like you
know the average government worker like
we said doesn't know the government
behind the government
you know most of them feel like they're
doing a service or whatever
and these space aliens are no longer a
literal
kingdom level above the human kingdom
like we have we went before we have the
plant kingdom
the animal kingdom the human kingdom and
then the evolutionary level above human
which is the kingdom of god which where
they no longer
you know lose their body their bodies
are imperishable
but yet the ones who fell from that
kingdom who no longer look to that
kingdom
have fallen back into the same kingdom
level as a human kingdom
in a sense they're human equivalents
they do have
advanced technology they were in that
kingdom
they brought some of that technology
from their beginnership in that kingdom
they kept some of that knowledge they
brought it with them
they can travel in advanced
space travel hardware ufos they have
advanced genetic engineering
and if you've read many of the accounts
abductions
you know whether you've read john mack
or you know whoever
the latest book is you know that the the
alien races have
been doing a lot of experimentation
whether it is taking biological material
or taking fetuses or whatever
they have that capability they have
advanced
holographic capabilities meaning they
can do things
like medjugorje or fatima
they can masquerade to the humans as
gods and they do
they can manipulate the human population
in that way
just like you know say during world war
ii
and the primitive tribes on this on this
planet saw planes going overhead and
they made monuments and they worshipped
them
or or a fellow actually there's this is
a true story
he crashed into one of these tribes
and tried and they thought he was a god
and
and he kept saying he wasn't a god but
he knew how to do all sorts of things
that they didn't know how to do he could
build
do wells he could do all sorts of you
know irrigation and technology they
couldn't do so they he couldn't convince
him they weren't gone
the same thing happens with the space
aliens they are masquerading
to the population as gods another thing
that they've done
which is trying to try to keep the human
population blinded
to the fact that they're here i mean
many of you sitting here must believe
enough that there are ufo sightings to
be here but
much of the population and the media
does they won't even stick their neck
out and put out a story about ufos
because they feel like they'll be
ridiculed and that strategy isn't one
that is happenstance
it's very much a strategy because
as long as the huma most of the
population believes these things aren't
happening
or at least if they are happening it's
not happening on a large scale it won't
happen to me then they can continue
doing what they're doing
without anybody getting too disturbed
about it
and part of what we're trying to do even
though it's a small part is
expose the fact that this is happening
certain like we went back to the
experiment this certain part of the
heavens was designed
as a garden or womb for developing souls
which means all the genetic material is
here that is needed
the parts of the heavens that they in a
sense were restricted to
long long time ago don't have all this
necessary
raw materials or biological materials so
they come here just like a farmer goes
to
a city person goes to a farmer for for
ingredients that they need that they
don't have
we have genetic material here because of
whatever positioning we
ended up with on this planet in relation
to other planets
their sun or whatever that they don't
have
long periods of time in space
causes the reproductive system to
atrophy
even our own scientists have figured
that out
so the long periods that some of these
races have spent in space
has caused a certain you know they call
it backside the genetic
curve or deterioration of their species
they come here to get new genetic
material in order to improve their
species
so even though their intentions are not
quote malicious they are doing
they're using this planet and its
resources for their own
and i mean that's just they've all
they've done it for a long period of
time
they continue to do so and um
it isn't really right for them to do so
but it's just again it's part of the
equation it it also
offers choices they
can and they do bombard
the atmospheres of this planet with
radio waves each of us has a receiver
and we often don't have a good
seeking scan to know exactly what we're
picking up
and these alien races have been very
effective in
in keeping the population segments of
the population anesthetized to what's
happening
one very potent drug or
technique they've used if you look at
what's happened
you know we know if you've studied ufos
in the last 40 years or so
has been when the increase of sightings
has really increased but even if you
look in the last 20 years of
how much more let's say sensuality is
used to sell products
or how much more the society is more
um uh taken with that or more
concerned with their own desires the uh
sensuous nature of the plant whatever it
is that's
that was designed purposely for the fact
that
the alien races also knew that there
would be a time period
when this actual evolutionary level
above kingdom would send again
representatives
and they also knew that if they kept the
containers
or the bodies that were where we're
wearing
very preoccupied with their own
senses that we'd be less likely to
recognize what was happening and if you
look around you know you can't buy a
tube of toothpaste or a car or whatever
without it being sold
with essential point of view and
part of in a sense overcoming or or
weaning yourself from the human kingdom
is to
in a sense um just like an alcoholic to
abstain from that activity for a certain
amount of time until you've abstained
from
indulging in in sexuality or sensuality
you don't really know
what perception can be attained
without having done that just like an
alcoholic he doesn't know
you know everybody else can see that
he's pretty well intoxicated but he
thinks he's seeing things just fine
you know they've only had two martinis
and everything is just fine
and everybody else knows that he's not
seeing the same reality that they are
it's the same thing with sensuality it's
the hardest drug on this level to
overcome
and it has no bearing on morality
or you know religious reasons or
anything like that
part of the reason is that that
level or that way of reproduction is not
it's more akin to the animal kingdom
it is not the way members of the kingdom
of heaven reproduce the way they
reproduce is to get their young from
this kingdom level
having overcome that level and so
that's one of the things that
will allow you to see in a sense a
perception of what's going on
so again going back to the space alien
races
they're doing a pretty good job of
keeping
most of the population blinded to what's
happening now they've done a pretty good
job
of putting so many copycats out there
whether it's you know go to the astral
plane or do this or do that
that most people are thoroughly confused
and when someone comes along and says
we've got the truth we've got the
picture that you've been waiting for
everyone says sure like everybody else
and that was designed as a strategy as
well
it's all choices and it's up to each
individual to decide what is really the
truth
here and it was made confusing
in a sense like we started out saying
that kingdom level doesn't need
any of us and you can say well that's a
very cruel kingdom level why do they put
us all here
you know we can't question the design we
know that
they can exist perfectly with well
without us but we also know
that they're more than happy
to assist or help anybody who
exerts the effort to see what's
happening and wants to
move forward wants to really know the
truth and
we're trying our best and we know that
we're clumsy instruments to try and
sort through so many of the strategies
and misinformation that's out there
we know the next level is very fair
we may not understand how they judge
things we're not in that position
we're also not here to convince anybody
that this is true
or persuade anybody that this is what
they should do
what we're doing we're merely presenting
information that we know will speak to a
very small number of you
and those of you that have received a
deposit of recognition
will not be able to deny it
you will recognize that this makes sense
to you you will know that this
rings a chord inside that says i've got
to check this out
we don't know how or why or what
criterion the
next level uses to make
the decision as to who receives a
deposit and who doesn't
any more than we know why there were
only
there was only a small segment of the
globe within which
jesus traveled to share his message
but we do believe that the united states
and especially the western united states
seems to be
a focal point for the gathering of souls
that have received a deposit of
recognition
that will have the capacity to act on
this information
we are recognizing that
individuals who choose to do this
will receive the help they need to
accomplish
what we have accomplished in 18 years in
a much shorter period of time
we don't know why that is but since
january we've witnessed the number of
individuals
join our ranks and learn things
almost overnight that took us weeks and
months to accomplish
in the 18 years in the classroom
some of us could choose to feel jealous
about that
on the other hand some of us can also
recognize that perhaps these minds
simply brought less baggage with them
and they have less homework to do we
don't know
but in any case if you do
choose to follow this if you
recognize that your path is taking you
to the top of the mountain and you see
this as the only way off
and if you ask the highest source of
goodness that you know
for help with what to do in making
a decision one way or the other
regarding this information
you will receive that help
we plan to show you a tape this evening
of
our older member so you have some idea
of
what the representative is like that is
incarnate at this
time in a human body
we will take time after that tape to
answer your questions
and those of you who decide that this is
something that you need to act on
we welcome you to come forward but we
want to warn you this
is the most difficult decision the most
difficult thing a human can do
and if it is something that you want to
do you must convince us of that
we're not about to try and convince you
of anything
one other thing is that probably before
we show the tape if anybody feels like
you've heard enough
and that this isn't for you you won't
offend us at all if you
would care to leave because we know
again that
what we're saying speaks to a very small
segment of the population
and we're not out to convince anybody of
anything
because everything is choices and
you have to make your own choices we
could clarify one quick thing
you may see us sitting up here and
especially if you
hung around the college campuses you may
feel like
well this is another group or another
bunch of people that are on the speaking
circuit
or something i mean we don't know what
you think but to clarify
we're a group of individuals that like
we said we're in seclusion for about
roughly 18 years and in january we felt
to sell everything that we had again as
we had done in 1975
this time we sold what collective
property we had
got rid of it all went on the road with
just what we needed to get this message
out from city to city
and we're not we have no base of
operations no monastery
no you know corporate headquarters we're
not selling any videos
we're not selling any books we're not a
business i mean we're not an
organization
we're a group of individuals and we've
all
practiced what we are telling you we've
been celibate we wear these rings
and you may say well they look like you
know there's some couples down here
these are rings denoting that we've
committed ourselves totally to the
kingdom
level above human and we're not
available to anything on this level
and we're very happy to announce that
that's the case we've found more
satisfaction and happiness in doing this
and we ever
found in the world some of us these
bodies were wearing were
well involved in the world