The parties, the parties, the parties. Here's Rhonda. She had a blast. So Rhonda, what's
the big news? What's the big backstage alternative Oscar news?
The big news is even if you're not a nominee, there's lots of parties, a dozen or so alternative
parties to go to where you can actually view the Oscars and cheer for who you want to win
or lose and wine and dine, see and be seen. Like this is the night for everyone to strut
their stuff. Like if you've lost some weight, you've dyed your hair, had some cosmetic surgery,
this is the night to come out. Because even if you're not at the Governor's Ball downtown,
there's the Vanity Fair party at Morton's, at Eclipse, the Columbia Tri-Star party. This
party's all over town, a dozen or so as I said. And they're also to benefit charities.
So you're there for two-fold reasons, to see, be seen and for charity. I was hanging out
at the Night of 100 Stars at the Beverly Hills Hotel where also Christopher Darden was there
too.
Oh, that Chris who gets around.
Yeah, now he's in New York.
Are you his fiance? We've been trying to track this down.
Well, I'm trying to remember who he was with. He sort of slipped by me. But other people
were there like Suzy Kurtz and Joan Van Ark and Jenny Garth and Maria Conchita Alonso,
Neil Simon, to Milton Berle. So it was a very eclectic group, Tom Arnold and Ken Wall.
Ken Wall, the wise guy guy?
Ken Wall, the wise guy guy who's hot. Well, there's a little gossip about him that I discovered.
What?
Well, Ken is now part of a team, Ken and Barbie. You might want to listen to what he had to
say to me because this is breaking news.
All right. Roll it.
Jean Kasem, when she found that you were engaged, said, oh no, like all the women in America
are going to be so depressed and upset. But you're engaged to two women, the Barbie twins?
Yes.
Can you tell them apart?
Yes.
How?
Next question.
You're engaged to both of them. Does that mean you're going to marry both of them? Because
they're inseparable.
I know that. That's what I like about them.
I saw in the inquirer that you're going to marry both of them. Is this true?
Yes.
You want to know here on her own?
Yes.
And when will this take place?
There's no date set, probably in the summertime.
Now, why aren't they here tonight and why aren't you in a tuxedo?
Well, first of all, I don't own a tuxedo and I don't like having anything around my neck.
What is marriage going to be like then?
No, that's totally different. I don't mind them around my neck, but not inanimate objects.
Let me put it that way.
Okay. And why aren't the girls here?
Because Shane is sick because she's about a month pregnant now.
Shane is pregnant with your child?
Yes. And we think she is too, but we're not sure about her.
This is unbelievable. This is good scoop. Shane and Sia, the Barbie twins, pregnant
by Ken Wall. In the meantime, the women of America are grieving over the loss of you.
I'm a little...
He seems a little wacky.
A little. I mean, I thought his baseball attire was interesting, but then that's what Oscar
and I... You know, you can come out in any way that you want. But supposedly this is
true. It's the first time that he announced that he was engaged to both of them. We've
heard that he was engaged to Shane, one of the Barbie twins, but Sia and Shane, what
a twosome. What a threesome.
Really? Speaking of twosomes, Larry Flint and his estranged daughter, Tanya, I understand
Tanya had something to say.
Yeah. Well, she was definitely outspoken about people versus Flint. So I think she was one
of the people. Oscar night brings out the best and worst in everyone. This is what Tanya
had to say.
Okay.
The film was irresponsible. The filmmakers were irresponsible. They made a movie that
was not based on fact. I lived the life, and I know that the movie is untrue. It legitimizes
pornography, and pornography is harmful to women and children. It harmed my life. I went
through hell growing up, and that's why I'm here, and that's why I'm protesting this,
and I hope it doesn't win any awards.
I don't think it did, did it?
I don't think so. She was, by the way, she was standing next to Gloria Allred. It was
definitely an eclectic party that evening.
Really? Where were you, Cindy?
I was backstage at the Oscars. By the way, when the arrivals were, when all the people
were coming in, there was about 50 people in t-shirts, and they all said, love something,
I've forgotten what, and they had banners saying, Larry Flint, say no to porn, no Oscar
for Larry Flint. When Milos Forman arrived, who was up for best director for the movie,
they all stood up, all 50 of them, the grandstand. The minute he left, they left. They were either
ejected or dejected. They were thrown the hell out. And it was an interesting group.
Mel Gibson, I said, what was your most exciting moment at this Oscar? He said, getting outside
and grabbing a smoke.
We predicted it would be one of the lowest rated it was.
Who, who, who was there? Remember in the old days when I was growing up in the Stone Age,
it was one name, Hetty, Gary, Carrie, Lana. Now everybody's got three names, Marianne
Jean, Billy Bob Watts. And Billy Bob, by the way, said that he was so broke, he'd had 17
jobs beforehand, and he was working in a sawmill. He worked one night selling fountain pens
by phone, and he had to leave because they didn't want to pay him. The first week was
learning experience. And he says, I was so broke, I needed that. Marianne Jean-Baptiste,
who was there, was also saying that she had a $20 lucky piece in her, in her purse. And
it was because her grandmother had given it to her before she went because she had no
money. So here she is up for an Oscar she'd had no money. Quentin Tarantino has new hair.
But Janet Charlton, you know something about Barbara, when Barbara Streisand.
Who cares about his hair? I have old hair. When Barbara Streisand, I forget who was to
sing the song originally, but someone. Well, Barbara was asked to sing it. It wasn't Barbara
to sing it. She said no. Brian Adams and Natalie Cole. This is an interesting story, Geraldo.
Brian Adams and Natalie Cole were set to sing the song because Barbara, she performed the
song with Brian Adams originally. Okay. So then apparently Brian Adams dropped out just
a few days before. They think out of deference to Barbara because he felt it was not right
to do it with someone else. So then Natalie Cole was left holding the bag. Oscar morning
at 11 o'clock she called in and said she was sick. Well they were hysterical. They didn't
know what to do. Listen to this, at 5 o'clock Celine Dion walked into the Shrine Auditorium
and they begged her to sing the song. Celine, like a troupe or without very minimal rehearsal,
pulled the whole thing off. She did a wonderful job. Interestingly enough, Barbara Streisand
was there showing off her trophy, James Brolin. And the reason she showed up is because Lauren
Bacall asked her to come and support her for the award show because she was nominated.
Lauren Bacall, there was such a roar backstage when she didn't win. You know, the journalists
in memoriam stopped eating for a minute. And let me tell you, reporters never pass up free
food. This was something they were... Geraldo, I can tell you why she didn't win. I'll tell
you that Lauren Bacall is not one of the better liked women in Hollywood. She's a wonderful
actress but she's not a nice person. And bad manners eventually will work against you in
Hollywood. They're going to love you too in Hollywood. She's been mean to too many people.
Say that again? They're going to love you too in Hollywood. That is not the only reason
she lost. She said to me that Hollywood has always dismissed her. She has been honored
on stage but she has been dismissed in films. Another thing, the Bloody Academy now is all
11 years old. They don't know anybody beyond Heather Locklear. They don't know anybody.
They have no respect for anybody. And that's why all these cockamamie films that nobody
ever heard of, with people nobody ever heard of, grow. We'll be right back with someone
you have heard of, Joey Heatherton. Right after this.
The problem now of course is to simply hold your horses.
Wild stuff, especially for the 60s. Joey Heatherton, certainly one of the sexiest pop
stars of that era, the 60s and 70s. Her ability to convey that wonderful sex appeal made men
swoon and women try to emulate her hip style, that shaggy platinum hair. She's the daughter
of a Broadway dancer and of Ray Heatherton, the guy who was very important in my childhood
as the merry mailman here on the East Coast. I don't know if he was national or not but
he certainly was a very, very big part of the New York scene. Joey has rubbed elbows
with the whole of the Rat Pack, Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr., of course Frank Sinatra.
And now at the age of 52, for reasons she is about to share with us, Joey Heatherton
has taken it all off in Playboy Magazine's April issue. She's here to tell us why is
Joey Heatherton.
Thank you.
It's great. Long time no see.
Yeah, right.
Long time no see.
Thank you very much.
Wow, you look sensational.
Oh, yay.
Mike, let me see. Mike's been going steady with this magazine. Oh, do that again. You
had to do that kick.
I'm sorry.
Let me see.
Do that again. You had to do that kick.
Mike is nice.
Yeah.
So we said, so are you.
I felt like I knew you, Mike.
So why did you do it? It's fabulous and it looked great.
Because of you.
Oh, go on.
Because of why? I thought it was time to come out of my cocoon.
Where have you been?
I've been, I've been, where have I been?
Have you been in seclusion?
That's the first question. Where have I been?
I've been backstage waiting.
Where have I been?
I took some time off and I, yeah, I retreated.
And was there a reason?
Yeah. There was a reason.
I was taken advantage of, I would say, by people that I loved and trusted and a lot
of money, millions of dollars were stolen.
Really?
Yeah. Right. Do you know any of it?
No, no, I don't.
No. It wasn't fun then in retrospect. Thank God I got through it.
And so why this decision to emerge from the shell of seclusion?
Because this is what I do. I don't do Playboy magazine. That's not my usual thing.
Hi, Julie.
You know her?
No, I was asked, no, I've, listen, I met a couple of great ladies, Claudia Morante,
a girlfriend of mine that I've known since I'm 11 years old, and then Jump Cut, I met
her again. She's a psychologist. And it was a bad time for me, like 88 and when I was
retreating, all right, and she encouraged me to take that path and find out what guy's
name has been going on. Why, very dangerous kind of curves and dangerous road I got on.
And then I met Elizabeth Kubler-Ross and she said to me, Joey, you know, you go through
the tumbler and either you come out crushed or polished. And I feel, really, hokey as
it sounds, I feel polished. I feel brand new. I feel like I'm in love again.
Really?
With life and...
I was going to ask with whom, but with life generally?
With everything.
Were you self-destructive during that time?
I know that people were very destructive to me. They betrayed me. I'm talking about lawyers
and accountants and my accountant and my lawyer who I trusted like I would trust, you know,
my authority. You know, I gave them authority. My conductor, they just went right and they,
what, there's five million dollars there.
You gave them powers of attorney?
No, no power of attorney. They had cute ways of...
Good. Just going to reach in there.
So, how are you doing then?
Well, I'm doing great. I'm doing an album. I'm doing a CD.
A pop album?
I'm doing a swinging album with the great Billy Byers that I started with Billy. He
passed away, but, you know, a few months ago he was like my... he was my family.
I do. This story is much too complicated to squeeze into one segment. Can you stay?
Yeah.
Joey Hedison, continue.
I love you.
Okay.
Here she is. One of the few photos we can show you. There's another. That same...
Allure, that same sex appeal.
Thank you.
Fifty-two years old. Doesn't show.
Well, Playboy people were the greatest photographers. Stephen Wada and a great makeup gal, Alexis
Vobel.
Well, you look pretty good too, girlfriend.
Oh, well. And you kidding girls? We know makeup makes... huh? Makes us feel a little bit prettier,
illuminates us.
Now, what are you thinking about in this picture?
About you? I told you. I told you.
The... don't bring up the good old days.
The...
Get out of here.
Was...
Good old days.
Was Sinatra... was that period the golden age in a sense? The Rat Pack, Sammy Davis Jr.?
I was... I really... I wasn't part of a Rat Pack. I mean, I was honored to be... to work
with a master, you know. Frank Sinatra called me and asked me to be on a special with Sammy
Davis and Count Basie. That's pretty good for a start, right? And then Dean Martin and...
and then I worked with them a lot, you know. And are you kidding? It was the top of the
world fun. Get out of here. It was great.
It strikes me when you talk about your life. You've had this tremendous roller coaster
ride. Why don't you write a book about it?
I have. Yeah. I didn't sit down intentionally to write a book, but it channeled itself.
I had to get it out of... I had to get so much out. I mean, it really was a... you know,
it was like the ride in the French Connection.
Right. That wild ride under the El.
Yeah. That was there. And I had some pretty interesting boyfriends.
Are you in love now?
I'm in love with life. And as... that sounds like a corn bowl, but I mean it. I'm having
the best time of my life. I am.
And as you love life generally, any specific person?
A few. There's a... yeah. I've got... I'm a lucky girl.
Who?
Huh?
Who?
Not Chris Darden. I'm just kidding.
Oh, hello. We just met. Right. Wait a minute. He was cute. He was just... No, I have some
lovely people that I know. Gentlemen that are wonderful.
So how do you want us to feel about how you're doing right now?
I told you I'm making this album and that's coming out in the fall and it's going to be...
hopefully it's going to be the swinging of this album in the world. It's Don Costa, it's
Johnny Mandel, it's Billy Byers. It's vintage. It's the real... it's my world. What you asked
me about Sinatra and Dean Martin, this is what I'm about. That's always, since I was
a little girl, swinging. Music.
She's still swinging, folks.
Best music in the world.
Still swinging, Joey Hedges.
We'll be right back.
Thank you very much.
You know why I pulled you over?
Depends on how long you were following me.
Why don't we just take it from the top?
Here goes. I sped. I followed too closely. I ran a stop sign. I almost hit a Chevy. I
sped some more. I failed to yield at a crosswalk. I changed lanes in the intersection. I changed
lanes without signaling while running a red light and speeding.
Is that all?
No.
I have unpaid parking tickets.
Thank you.
Remember him walking out after the $20 million weekend opening saying, how was your weekend?
Now, Chris, you were in Liar Liar.
Yeah, I make a cameo appearance in Liar Liar.
Now, I understand most of your appearance was on the cutting room floor. Is that true?
Not at all. In fact, you see my appearance.
Don't blink.
What do you do? What do you do?
Well, I greet Carrie, who's leaving the courthouse, essentially.
Touched by an angel, Liar Liar, the cameo's on Jay Leno. I mean, are you changing careers
here on it?
Well, I'd like to.
I'll introduce you to my agent if you give me a percentage.
Karen Bryant from TNT Rooker.
Tell us the real story between Liar Liar, aside from hiring Chris.
Right. Well, they shot over a million feet of film, which is quite excessive. And partly
that's because, and you probably found this out, that Jim Carrey likes to do 20 takes
of something from one extreme to the other. But what I guess he liked about this is he
quoted it as saying that working at sea level, in this movie he got to be a normal guy for
a while, got to work on relationships. Everything wasn't so over the top and Ace Ventura'd out.
But again, that is his charm. And that's why everybody loves to go see him, because we
love to see him over the top. But Tom Shadyak, the director who also did The Nutty Professor,
what do you do? This guy is just so extremely talented. You leave everything running, you
leave the film going, and you see what comes out.
At the credits, they use a lot of the outtakes.
Yeah, they do. Well, and Jennifer Tilly said that the extras every day were thrilled because
they got paid to stand around, which is fine, you get paid a little bit of money. But basically
you got to go see the Jim Carrey comedy hour forever and ever and ever. And that's a great
way to work.
Did you find him charming, Chris?
Oh, absolutely. I'd met him before, on a few occasions before. But it's a great script,
despite what some people might try to suggest. It's a great script, a great story, and it's
a wonderful movie.
After the Oscars, they came into the Vanity Fair party, right after Muhammad Ali came
in. It was like the whole room tilted. Muhammad Ali came in, and the whole room stood up and
applauded him. And Goldie Hawn kissed him. And then right on their heels, in came Jim
Carrey and Lauren Holly. And Lauren was saying that she's coming to New York, well, she'll
be here this spring to make a movie. And then Tom Cruise came in, then Madonna came in.
And it was like a little knot of people, like the whole rest of the world stood still.
They should have filmed that. It would have been a better program than the one that was
on TV.
And he would have woken me up to tell me the Oscars were over.
But it started out so well with Cuba. And we picked that.
We all picked it.
You know what he said? He was so great Cuba. He said, man, they'd have had to kill me for
me not to be here. Man, he was like jumping all around. And he says, I was so broke. I
lived in a car. I did dishes. Man, they'd have had to kill me not to be here. He was
so cool.
He was the greatest.
He was adorable.
So it started off on such a great note.
It really did.
It didn't go anywhere after that.
Ever meet him, Chris?
No, I haven't. I like to.
But now you're changing careers. So you're saying that too. Show me the money.
Yeah, yeah.
Just show me some work.
We'll be right back.
Celebrate the week.
Right after this.
Amazing.
Don't forget to thank your wife. I'll never forget to thank my high school sweetheart and
the mother of my children, Spencer and Mason.
I love you, Sarah. And my parents are so kind.
I love you, too.
I love you, Sarah. And my parents who are here, Shirley and Cuba, keep it first.